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Frangelic Mountain Brown Hate

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JamesShoemaker, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. davey101

    davey101 Champion (820) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    Eh. I actually went into the beer before that thread popped up and people boarded the hate train. I was super stoked since I go out of my way to put Nutella on anything edible. It really just did very little for me and I did get an odd sort of sucralose flavor.
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  2. davey101

    davey101 Champion (820) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    I love creme brulee :(
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  3. ChrisMon02

    ChrisMon02 Advocate (565) Ohio May 2, 2010

    My first and only drain pour from Founders. That beer was a mess...
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  4. yamar68

    yamar68 Champion (910) Minnesota Apr 1, 2011

    Turn that frown upside down. Let's just agree to disagree... diversity is the breath of harmony. May your taste buds find peace in the darkest corners of ingenuity. May your eyes widen upon sight of something strange or surreal. Seize the day, tackle each ambition.
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  5. fullmetal1381

    fullmetal1381 Savant (270) Florida Jul 30, 2011

    This alone would have led me to buy it, bad reviews aside.
  6. davey101

    davey101 Champion (820) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    I can now sleep in peace. Restless days be gone. Thank you.
  7. Seanniek91

    Seanniek91 Advocate (540) Rhode Island Jul 1, 2012 Beer Trader

    Let me add on to my last statement. It's not barrel aged therefor will not become a whale therefor won't get you Cantillons.
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  8. I bought it at my local bottle shop, not knowing anything about it at the time other than I really liked Founder's Double Trouble and Breakfast Stout, I like coffee beers, I like hazelnuts, and it was about $15 a bottle. I wasn't expecting to be blown away, but I definitely wasn't expecting to hate it, and man was it gross to my palate. I got through most of the bomber, but I really wanted to drain pour it after a few sips (I had never drain poured a beer before, the only one I have since was Pumking).

    That said, I've liked or loved everything I've had from founders since (I could take or leave Centennial and Cerise), but I really think that beer was a huge misstep and an insult to the consumer at the price point.
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  9. danieelol

    danieelol Advocate (585) Australia Jun 15, 2010

    Pretty nice beer and definitely unique
  10. It just seems odd to me that someone could dislike a beer like FMB because it tastes "artificial" while simultaneously liking creme brulee. Creme brulee seriously tastes like store-bought vanilla icing. Personally, I don't hate it, but I do recognize that store-bought vanilla icing tastes incredibly artificial.
  11. stickboy1125

    stickboy1125 Savant (365) Virginia Jan 28, 2012

    I enjoyed it but would not buy it again at $14/bottle.
  12. dvmin98

    dvmin98 Champion (760) North Carolina Nov 1, 2010 Beer Trader

    I enjoy it, but its nothing spectacular. I guess that artificial taste gets to me. I enjoy hazelnut coffee, so I thought I would like this a lot more. My buddy loves it, so I bring a bottle when I head over there. I bought a case when released, so I still have about 6 left.
  13. If FMB was $7/bottle, it MIGHT warrant a revisit...

    just to confirm I thought it was was bad.
  14. frickprick

    frickprick Disciple (65) Washington May 11, 2011

    When you are a world class brewery and you create a special limited release Baskstage Series brand and charge premium prices, people are expecting a home run. I think people were expecting an amazing coffee concoction along the lines of FBS which is world class. I was expecting Founders to hit another coffee home run with this and instead I got a bunt.
  15. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Poobah (1,070) California Jan 31, 2005 Beer Trader

    No hate here...just underwhelmed.
  16. coreyfmcdonald

    coreyfmcdonald Advocate (625) Georgia Nov 13, 2008 Beer Trader

    When you're one of the best regional brewers in the world and you come out with a series of limited release beers that have all been received extremely well along with a list of brewpub only beers that lots of people want to see released and you brew one beer that is relatively not as good and quite polarizing, you are going to receive a lot of hate.
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  17. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Savant (460) Pennsylvania Dec 23, 2011 Beer Trader

    Fresh, I thought it was pretty tasty. Drank a second bottle I hadn't gotten around to until a month ago. Coffee taste had fallen off big time, and it was boozier tasting. Quick question to anyone; if anyone has cracked open their CBS recently, how has it held up? I'm imagining being a big stout it should be fine, but I'm banking on the coffee fading a little.
  18. Hanzo

    Hanzo Champion (965) Virginia Feb 27, 2012

    On a side note, thank you for the extra bottle you gave me that I enjoyed very much.

    That's the great thing about beer, not everyone likes the sames things, and sometimes you can benefit from that.
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  19. klaybie

    klaybie Savant (275) Illinois Nov 15, 2009

    I didn't like it because the hazelnut was overpowering. I am a Founders fan boy and always will be, but FMB was mediocre.
  20. NickyDee21

    NickyDee21 Savant (460) Pennsylvania Dec 23, 2011 Beer Trader

    Flavor fell off big time from fresh in June til i drank my second one in December. Not bad, but not as tasty as it was fresh. Then again, if you drank your first one in November, you prolly already experience what I did in December
  21. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) New York Jan 15, 2011

    at the tap and mallet event? It was delicious on nitro there. I ordered 2 of them and I didn't love the bottle I had.
  22. atoulouk

    atoulouk Savant (435) Indiana Apr 25, 2011 Beer Trader

    It's the best hazelnut coffee brown ale I've ever had.
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  23. WagonCircler

    WagonCircler Savant (335) New York May 15, 2011 Beer Trader

  24. mjshearer1

    mjshearer1 Advocate (575) Michigan Dec 16, 2011 Beer Trader

    For those of you cellaring FMB, I've actually heard Founders themselves say that that's not a good idea, as the hazelnut flavor is the first thing to go.
  25. TheSevenDuffs

    TheSevenDuffs Champion (870) Ontario (Canada) Jan 20, 2010 Beer Trader

    Personally, I think that would improve the beer. My problem with it was that it was completely one-dimensional ...
  26. oldschool9

    oldschool9 Savant (300) Ohio Dec 20, 2010 Beer Trader

    True. I didn't have it as fresh as possible by any means, but I thought there was a good amount of hazelnut still in there lol. Looking forward to seeing how it ages with that, aging a brown though? Never really thought I would be doing that, but its all fun for me! Like I said not worth the $ IMO, but it was a fun beer to try. Just most likely not going to buy 2 of the next backstage release unless they bring something to up the bar. Cheers!
  27. It wasn't a terrible beer, but let's put it this way - if it wasn't made by Founders you never would have even heard about it. Just nothing at all remarkable about the beer.
  28. gustogasmic

    gustogasmic Savant (350) Michigan Jan 13, 2012 Beer Trader

    A fantastic beer that A.) is Overpriced B.) Not nearly as fantastic or complex as the other Backstage releases C.) Says artificial on the side D.) Is really fuckin' hazelnutty.

    All 4 of those things have garnered hate but I maintain my opinion that FMB is an awesome beer.
  29. Or they just didn't like the taste of it.....

    To the OP: Count me in as one of the folks that didn't like. I love a nice coffee beer, but the hazelnut flavor was too much. Artificial, organic, didn't matter, there was too much of it.
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  30. ao125

    ao125 Savant (335) Virginia Dec 1, 2010

    I like Coffee Mate hazelnut coffee creamer in my coffee... just not in my beer. I think they captured the flavor 100% exactly right... I just don't like it.

    I also think there is a difference between making a bad beer, and a beer that you just don't like the flavor of... and I feel like this is the latter.

    I did try this once, paired with chocolate cake and it was much better then, than when I had it on its own. That said, it's still not a flavor I like in beer.

    Completely the opposite of Rogue's Voodoo Doughnut, which was poorly executed and was just done wrong.
  31. nanobrew

    nanobrew Advocate (645) California Dec 31, 2008

    I was trying to think if maybe I just don't like the combo of hazelnut and coffee but then I remembered this beer, truly amazing. I think it comes down to (aside from a great base beer) adding quality coffee and quality hazelnut.
  32. Bung

    Bung Champion (765) Michigan Nov 5, 2007 Beer Trader

    End of thread.
  33. Bung

    Bung Champion (765) Michigan Nov 5, 2007 Beer Trader

    Well, at least read down to this one anyway.
  34. kmello69

    kmello69 Advocate (655) Texas Nov 27, 2011 Beer Trader

    I liked it a lot. I got 2 bottles from a friend, drank 1, and will soon drink the other. If any of you folks that didnt like it still have a bottle, feel free to send it my way - I'll drain pour it into my mouth drain for you. :p
  35. Catchy_Name

    Catchy_Name Advocate (520) California Dec 21, 2011 Beer Trader

    I opened one on NYE and the coffee and hazelnut flavors had dropped off significantly. Fresh this beer was as amazing a coffee beer I've ever had. Only better ones I can recall are Beachwood Tovarish and Pizza Port From Dusk 'Til Dawn. But when last opened my FMB it was eerily similar to Rogue Hazelnut Brown, which is a good beer in its own right. But it was a bastardized version of what it was fresh.

    My advice to anyone that still has it, is drink ASAP.
  36. tectactoe

    tectactoe Champion (870) Michigan Mar 20, 2012 Verified

    Wouldn't cellaring just make it zero-dimensional then? :confused:
  37. ba's aging flowchart:

    if the beer isn't good -> cellar it, it will become good
    if the beer is good -> cellar it, it will become great
    if the beer is aged and isn't doing well -> tell everyone it's doing well, and trade it
  38. AutumnBeerLove

    AutumnBeerLove Savant (400) Massachusetts Oct 16, 2010 Beer Trader

    Another problem may be that people think "hazelnut coffee" is a real thing. And it's not.
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  39. runfoodrun

    runfoodrun Savant (335) Minnesota Jun 18, 2008

    I didn't think you could improve your avatar over the previous Trey version, but the new one did it!
  40. a74gent

    a74gent Savant (440) Massachusetts Mar 16, 2010 Beer Trader

    If it DID taste like hazelnut FBS, then I think people would have been off-the-chain for it. You seem to be someone who did think so. I, on the other hand, didn't get that at all....and it was because the hazelnut taste was not deep, authentic and yummy IMO (didn't know what the label said, I buy it for the beer not the articles). If the flavor was good, I think it would have been a good beer but not what I really wanted although I could have judged it accordingly. What I really would have liked was FBS or a Hazelnutty IS....but I'm a big boy and can judge it for what it was.

    IMHO, it was not Founders-quality product...I expect more from one of the top handful of craft brewers out there in their limited release series.
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