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Funk Metal... be warned.

Discussion in 'US - Southwest' started by bryand23, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. thirdeye11

    thirdeye11 Savant (450) Texas Feb 3, 2009

    That's a much closer definition than Lutter's interpretation. Brewers don't wish for diacetyl to end up in their beers, but if often does. It's a byproduct, not an infection.
     
  2. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (650) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    Meh, I agree... contamination seems like the correct term for a byproduct. I just simply lump it with infections in my mind.

    Is it me, or does all this stuff sound like hospital language? :)
     
  3. jamescain

    jamescain Advocate (660) Texas Jul 14, 2009

    Brett is not a bacteria
     
  4. LadyOfMuchBeer

    LadyOfMuchBeer Savant (380) Texas Apr 30, 2011

    I think too many people use the term infected WAY too loosely. An infected beer is something unintentional with wild yeast or other bacteria. It is the pure definition of the word "infection" itself. Is it not? I can understand why brewers avoid using "contamination", but some things truly do fall into that category. Some things are more of an unwanted chemical reaction. And in other cases, things are intentionally experimentally off, like in prohibition style ales.

    Perfect constants are impossible to achieve through imperfect human existence. It is part of the fun behind the inexact science that is brewing.

    Yeast is its own creature, neither bacterial or fungal.
     
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  5. omnigrits

    omnigrits Savant (345) Texas Jun 1, 2006

    Pretty sure yeast is classed as a single-cell fungus. Disclaimer: I am not now, nor have I ever been a microbiologist, but Alton Brown said it was a fungus and that's good enough for me. The man don't lie.
     
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  6. jesterkingbeer

    jesterkingbeer Savant (440) Texas Jun 28, 2010

    We're not completely sure what caused the Commercial Suicide that got recalled to over carbonate. Our theory is that it was "contaminated" with our French Saison yeast. A lab test of the recalled Commercial Suicide did not show the presence of any wild yeast or bacteria. For that reason, we believe the culprit may have been the French Saison yeast, which is highly attenuative.

    Jeff Stuffings
    Jester King
     
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  7. jamescain

    jamescain Advocate (660) Texas Jul 14, 2009

    Yeast is a fungus
     
  8. jamescain

    jamescain Advocate (660) Texas Jul 14, 2009

    My fiancee is a microbiologist, yeast is definitely a fungus
     
  9. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (650) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    I know yeast personally... he's a fun-gi at parties.

    *crickets*
     
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  10. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (510) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    Haaaaa. :p I get it.
     
  11. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (510) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    So, opened my bottle and it did spill out. Have a glass handy. As for the beer, I'm a bit speachless. I'm glad I went out and got a third bottle. It's excellent. Well done Jester King.
     
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  12. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (650) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    I can't wait till stuff like this is year round. Good to see they've already blended and incorporated more into their barrel program.
     
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  13. BeanBone

    BeanBone Savant (445) Texas Oct 12, 2006

    After 24 hours in the fridge, mine wasn't aggressive at all (even after dropping the bottle right before serving).
     
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  14. Daemose

    Daemose Savant (480) Texas Oct 3, 2011

    Some people just like to Bitch.
     
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  15. thirdeye11

    thirdeye11 Savant (450) Texas Feb 3, 2009

    Or maybe not every bottle is the same, because you're talking about a living orgamisn (yeast) that doesn't always behave the same way.
     
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  16. crusian

    crusian Advocate (620) Oregon May 14, 2010

    Plus bottle conditioning and hand filling... So literally every bottle will be different carbonation wise.
     
  17. champ103

    champ103 Champion (870) Texas Sep 3, 2007

    Correct, I have had Jolly Pumpkin and JK beers gush after being in the fridge for days. I have also had beers from both breweries that have been in the fridge for a few hours, or from my closet to a cooler for a bit, and no problems what so ever.
     
  18. Daemose

    Daemose Savant (480) Texas Oct 3, 2011

    Nah...
     
  19. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (510) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    Whatever the reason, I went and got yet another bottle :).
     
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  20. DanzBorin

    DanzBorin Initiate (0) Texas Apr 11, 2012

    The Jolly Pumpkin De Viento was the worst gusher I've ever experienced.
     
  21. icetrauma

    icetrauma Savant (495) Texas Sep 7, 2004

    Was at Spec's on Mason tonight and apparently only San Antonio and Austin has it on the shelves for Spec stores only. Downtown/Midtown/Smith St. shows a -28 in stock.
     
  22. Daemose

    Daemose Savant (480) Texas Oct 3, 2011

    Mine foamed, big deal. Wah.
     
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  23. rainerschuhsler

    rainerschuhsler Savant (360) Texas May 17, 2012

    I was at Spec's Downtown/Midtown/Smith St. today after work. There were at least a dozen bottles left on the shelf. Someone told me yesterday that it wasn't put into the system correctly and it was actually ringing up as Le Petit Prince for less than eight bucks a bottle.
     
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  24. miikezombie

    miikezombie Savant (355) Texas Aug 13, 2010

    Booo! Are you opening for pwsoldier at some nameless hotel's comedy open mic night? ;-)
     
  25. miikezombie

    miikezombie Savant (355) Texas Aug 13, 2010

    I would just hit the ignore button. God only knows why I haven't.
     
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  26. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (650) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    Every time Azzy posts, I feel a gentle wind.
     
  27. miikezombie

    miikezombie Savant (355) Texas Aug 13, 2010

    Don't even know who that is.
     
  28. LadyOfMuchBeer

    LadyOfMuchBeer Savant (380) Texas Apr 30, 2011

    This is an actual argument, and many reputable and respected people will argue both sides. Looks like a bacteria, acts like a fungi, but being unicellular makes it stand apart from other fungi. If ALL unicellular fungi are yeast...to me, that makes it it's own classification; yeast.
     
  29. thirdeye11

    thirdeye11 Savant (450) Texas Feb 3, 2009

    Opened my first bottle of Funk Metal last night, nary a bubble creep to be found. It didn't even foam. I had mine in the fridge for about 4 days before I opened it. YMMV.
     
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  30. mattisloco

    mattisloco Savant (455) Texas Feb 13, 2007

    ymmv?
     
  31. rainerschuhsler

    rainerschuhsler Savant (360) Texas May 17, 2012

    ymmv – Your mileage may vary.

    I opened my bottle of it a few nights ago. It was in the fridge for a few days. No explosion. Poured beautifully. Maybe my favorite JK beer to date.
     
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  32. lokieman

    lokieman Savant (475) Oklahoma Jan 20, 2011

    you might molest velociraptors?
     
  33. mattisloco

    mattisloco Savant (455) Texas Feb 13, 2007

    Only a slight possibility of me ever trying that.
     
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  34. Azzy

    Azzy Savant (300) Texas Jul 16, 2012

    What in the hell do I have to do with people not understanding how a beer was brewed? The problem these people are having with these "infected" beer is the fact that they have had little to no sour beers. If this was the case, every bottlle of Fantome, 3F or Cantillon would be infected. They get a sour taste and oh, this beer is infected. The beer was made to taste this way... I enjoyed it, and thank you Jester King for keeping things funky in Texas.

    Yeah, few people bought some at that price. Except for some reason I state that I was one of those people that purchased 2 of them at that price and I was called a thieve by those in this forum who have very high morals...... Oh, and I did call them in about it cause I did feel kinda bad they were probably selling the beer at cost or at a loss.
     
  35. Krumb

    Krumb Savant (300) Texas Jan 30, 2008

    i like stories, too...bro.
     
  36. scullycain

    scullycain Zealot (80) Texas Oct 10, 2012

    Yeast are a classification within the Kingdom of fungi. I don't think anyone argues this, as it is a taxonomic classification. Also, the yeast form is just that....a form. Some organisms that are found in yeast form can also become multi-cellular, at which point they are considered to be in a different form, yet they are still the same species. This is why yeast, by itself, is not a taxonomic classification.
     
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