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Getting a porter/stout thats thin and watery instead of robust

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by DarkDragon999, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. Revenant

    Revenant Savant (350) Minnesota Aug 8, 2012

    Talked to many brewers about this, have you?
  2. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Advocate (515) Pennsylvania Jul 31, 2010 Beer Trader

    Dominion Oak Barrel Stout. Really, really thin and watery, and way over-carbonated. It also has a very misleading name, being that it's aged on wood chips, not in barrels. One of the worst stouts I've ever had. Oddly enough, my lady really liked it, and she pretty much hated stouts/porters before that one. I gave her 4 out of the 6 beers I bought, and the next week she bought a six-pack of it for herself! So at least it was a good "starter stout", I suppose.
  3. ao125

    ao125 Savant (335) Virginia Dec 1, 2010

    "Getting a porter/stout that's thin and watery instead of robust"

    You mean anything from Left Hand?
  4. DickyBallz

    DickyBallz Aspirant (40) Alaska Feb 22, 2012

    Pipeline is good.
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  5. fx20736

    fx20736 Advocate (685) New York Mar 7, 2009

    Bass just came out with a Stout. It is thin, watery and almost flavorless.

    PORTerCITY Zealot (85) California Feb 9, 2013

    Knee Deep Tanilla porter was really thin imo, although I would like to try there new barrel aged imperial Tanilla, but never again their regular Tanilla. I also thought the same with New Holland's Dragons Milk.
  7. socon67

    socon67 Champion (825) New York Jun 18, 2010

    I can get why nobody is going to want a thin and watery porter\stout, but not all of them are necessarily "robust" either. There are plenty of milk stout, oatmeal stouts, or porters that are mellow an very sessionable because of it.
  8. Moose90

    Moose90 Advocate (740) Washington Nov 25, 2012 Beer Trader

    If BA Wake Up Dead is thin, I don't want to know what thick is.
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  9. Highbrow

    Highbrow Advocate (665) California Jan 7, 2011 Beer Trader

    sounds like some folks definitions might be a little bit off & therefore their expectations are a little bit beyond realistic.

    at just over a buck, accepting it for what it actually is, Black Butte porter is a definite "get by" in my wheelhouse.
  10. beerme411

    beerme411 Savant (370) California Sep 28, 2010

    That's disappointing I was going to get this a few weeks ago, but I only found the Black Robusto Porter, which I enjoyed and had higher hopes for Imperial Stout.
  11. hiimrichie

    hiimrichie Savant (320) California Jul 11, 2012 Beer Trader

    I thought the Lips of Faith Imperial Coffee Chocolate Stout was fairly thin.
  12. EyePeeAyBryan

    EyePeeAyBryan Advocate (725) Arizona Dec 20, 2011 Beer Trader

    Central Waters BBS is a perfect example of this (like previously stated).
  13. JK4Stout

    JK4Stout Aficionado (240) Virginia May 10, 2010

    Porters in general are a gamble for me. Some have really come through, bt I seem to have lowered my expectations enough to amp my opinion of some. (Porter Square Porter rocks though). And any stout you can't eat with a fork doesn't deserve the name! (I'm looking at you, Breckinridge!)
  14. xanok

    xanok Advocate (500) Connecticut Aug 13, 2009 Beer Trader

    Did op just try a Sexual Chocolate?
  15. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Advocate (530) Texas Nov 21, 2008

    I believe your expectations are the problem. Porters typically have a medium-light to medium mouthfeel. Look up "Robust porter". There is also a catagory sometimes referred to as "Imperial porter" (These are usually indistinguishable and interchangeable with Imperial stout.) And of course there is a porter fermented with lager yeast called a Baltic Porter that is also a fuller bodied beer. Perhaps those are what you want? Black Butte Porter, on tap or bottled is pretty much the same. It is an excellant porter and a good example of the style.
  16. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Champion (755) Minnesota Feb 6, 2013 Beer Trader

    Bell's Double Cream Stout. Not particularly creamy or robust.
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  17. inchrisin

    inchrisin Savant (480) Indiana Sep 25, 2008

    I can count the number of alt beers I've had on one hand, but that seems like that's what you get when you get a bad porter. It'd be fine for a 90F summer day with fish and chips, but right now I want something that clings to the glass a little bit more.
  18. terrapinfan88

    terrapinfan88 Savant (320) Virginia Nov 15, 2009

    Porters are generally gonna be lighter in body, and weight than stouts because they are lagers if memory serves me. Generally gonna be more carbonated, lighter in body, less dense head in most cases. Good for when you want some roast, earth and chocolate, without feeling as if you just finished a 72oz steak.

    Stouts tend to be a little richer, heavier, and smooth (still/not as effervescent).
  19. Agreed. Flavor is good, but the mouthfeel is a little underwhelming for an imperial stout.
  20. I have no problem quaffing multiple pints of Guinness when the options at the bar are limited to BMC stuff. Not the best and certaintly not robust and thick, but decent enough when posted up at the bar for a few hours.
  21. C2H5

    C2H5 Savant (480) Illinois Jan 7, 2012 Beer Trader

    If light can shine through my stout, I smash the glass on the ground
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  22. hardy008

    hardy008 Champion (780) Minnesota Jan 12, 2008 Subscriber

    In spite of what others have written in this thread, I found Smuttynose Robust Porter to be thin and watery, and just plain awful. It could have been a bad bottle, but it doesn't matter, because I don't plan to try it again.
  23. docnose

    docnose Aficionado (155) Alabama Feb 7, 2013

    I tried the Pipeline Porter for the first time this week. It seems to be a perfectly respectable porter. I feel I could drink a six-pack of this on a hot afternoon here in the South. However, I found myself switching to Rogue's Mocha Porter after two Pipelines...

    If given the unlimited choice I would probably always go with the thickest, darkest, most robust, barrel-aged, and highest ABV porter I could find... That's how I like's 'em!
  24. docnose

    docnose Aficionado (155) Alabama Feb 7, 2013

    What category would you suggest if one is looking for big viscous beer?
  25. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Advocate (510) Missouri Sep 14, 2011

    Imperial Stout, Barleywine, Old Ale, Dopplebock, scotch Ale, quads
  26. Oatmeal stouts for something lower gravity. Unless, of course, they are imperial.
  27. docnose

    docnose Aficionado (155) Alabama Feb 7, 2013

  28. Tut

    Tut Savant (495) New York Sep 23, 2004

    Try Brooklyn Dry Irish Stout if you can.
  29. sukwonee

    sukwonee Advocate (665) Washington Dec 13, 2011 Beer Trader

    I thought regular "normal" porters aren't supposed to be that thick. I thought it was just the style. Maybe I am wrong.

    Stouts I agree.
  30. ledzeppelin4

    ledzeppelin4 Savant (410) Illinois May 18, 2011

    Geary's London Porter. I'm a porter lover. Not a lover of this one though.

    CORKSCREWFISH Savant (325) Illinois Apr 22, 2011

    90% of the time!

    CORKSCREWFISH Savant (325) Illinois Apr 22, 2011

    2012 CW releases were definitely thin and somewhat watery. This year they are noticeably improved!
  33. Revenant

    Revenant Savant (350) Minnesota Aug 8, 2012

    Tallgrass Vanilla Bean Buffalo Sweat fits into this category IMO!
  34. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Advocate (515) Pennsylvania Jul 31, 2010 Beer Trader

    Breckenridge Vanilla Porter is somewhat thin from the bottle, but I had a sample of it at the bar earlier, and it was much, much better than I remember it being. Of course, it was probably just the fact that it was on tap, but still...it was good. I would have ordered it if the bar didn't have Double Bastard.
  35. AceMaster

    AceMaster Aficionado (195) Iowa Jan 23, 2012

    KGB imperial from widmer brothers major let down the only thing i like about its 9.1 so i like that
  36. Most vanilla porters I've had are thin/watery. Breckenridge, Tallgrass, and Empyrean to name a few.
  37. Soneast

    Soneast Advocate (650) Wisconsin May 9, 2008 Beer Trader

    I've found all of CW's stouts (even 15) to be fairly thin....they taste fantastic, but I wouldn't mind a bit more body.
  38. YES! The Breckenridge porter and oatmeal stout taste like a watered-down Marzen.