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Goose Island Baudoinia - Fulton & Wood Series (Fungus BCBS)

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by BlastBeats, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. BlastBeats

    BlastBeats Savant (470) Illinois Mar 24, 2011 Beer Trader

    "Baudoinia is a collaboration between Brewmaster Brett Porter and John Laffler. Baudoinia is the name of a fungus that grows on barrels stored low to the ground in distillery rickhouses. Given these barrels uniqueness, they have aged Goose Island's Bourbon County Brand Stout solely in these Baudoinia covered barrels for a new spin on Bourbon County."

    Looks really interesting.. check out the video;

  2. tcman128

    tcman128 Aficionado (155) Illinois Sep 2, 2012 Beer Trader

    I had this at FOBAB. Brett came over and talked with us for 20-25 minutes about the variations they were serving. He was VERY excited about the Baudoinia. I need to try it semi-sober to formulate a solid opinion of it vs. regular BCS. But my memory tells me it was solid!

    SIDE NOTE: I can confidently say (and this was Brett's opinion too).....Bramble Rye with a year on it is better than Cherry Rye.
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  3. jmgrub

    jmgrub Savant (475) California Nov 20, 2010

    Had this at FoBAB as well. It was my second favorite of the 4 treatments behind apple brandy, and I'm pretty confident about my assessment as I used my second ticket on the BCBS flight.
  4. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Advocate (640) Oregon Mar 2, 2008

    I'm surprised the press release doesn't mention: "We're pretty sure we can do any damn thing with the BCS series so long as it's limited and has the name Bourbon County Stout on it.
  5. Gonzoillini

    Gonzoillini Advocate (715) Illinois Oct 15, 2008

    But will Cherry Rye follow the same progression as Bramble has in a year? That's the more pertinent question to be asking in my opinion.

    I didn't like Bramble fresh at all, but it is drinking very well right now. I also wasn't a huge fan of Cherry Rye at FoBAB or Black Friday, but hoping I'll be as impressed with it in a year as I am with Bramble now.

    Also Baudoinia was very good at FoBAB, but not quite as good as the Apple Brandy Koval barrel aged version. Can't wait to try it side by side with regular Bourbon County in the coming weeks.

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  6. Bond111

    Bond111 Savant (390) Minnesota Feb 14, 2011 Beer Trader

    It's a shame I won't be anywhere close to Chicago to get to try this. The whole concept sounds very interesting, and I would only imagine it would taste lovely. BCBS with more smoothness and less of an "hot" taste and only 1% less abv, I'd gladly drink this everyday until the tap runs dry.
  7. tcman128

    tcman128 Aficionado (155) Illinois Sep 2, 2012 Beer Trader

    Yeah very true! Honestly ANY BCS varient is awesome. I'm also optimistic that Cherry Rye will turn out to be a true whale in a year. Just not sure it has the initial "punch" that might be needed to age into that. (Like I know what it takes:))

    Just sayin'
  8. Tnudish

    Tnudish Savant (315) Wisconsin Feb 16, 2012

    Not sure why Cherry Rye gets as much slack as it has, it's a fucking incredible beer. If you dont want your bottles, I will gladly trade you for them. I want to drink as much of it as possible.
  9. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    It was fantastic at FoBAB. Really smooth and rich. My favorite of the 4 samples.

    Just to clarify, Fulton & Wood series means draft-only, Chicagoland only.
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  10. Atlas1977

    Atlas1977 Aficionado (125) Illinois Nov 27, 2010

    Anyone know if this is on tap at Clyborn right now?
  11. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    Supposedly available starting next Monday
  12. Gonzoillini

    Gonzoillini Advocate (715) Illinois Oct 15, 2008

    Introducing Baudoinia, the next beer in our Fulton and Wood series. The beer comes out December 10th on draft in the Chicago area only.

    From the Goose Island Facebook Page.

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  13. PlayaPlaya

    PlayaPlaya Savant (295) Illinois Sep 19, 2012

    I am going to try to make it to the tapping at Clybourn next Monday......I'll just hop on the train as long as I am able to get this annoying work done this week.

    I love Goose, but I also realize that they could probably release literally any BCBS variant and we will buy it up.
  14. BlastBeats

    BlastBeats Savant (470) Illinois Mar 24, 2011 Beer Trader

    Thanks for the info; I forgot to put the release date in my original post.
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  15. dipaguy

    dipaguy Savant (270) Florida Feb 20, 2011 Beer Trader

    How much are the bottles of cherry rye and bcbcs going for on the shelf. Thanks
  16. i wonder if brett porter realizes that his name could be a style of beer
  17. Sounds good.
  18. mykey120

    mykey120 Savant (250) Wisconsin Aug 13, 2012 Beer Trader

    like 20-25 sounds like the average
  19. PoopChute69

    PoopChute69 Initiate (0) Poland Oct 24, 2012

    If Goose Island started distributing to Oregon you would be singing a very different tune.
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  20. Yeah, if you can find any lol
  21. Sarlacc83

    Sarlacc83 Advocate (640) Oregon Mar 2, 2008

    GI does distribute to Oregon. Their stuff sits on the shelves if it doesn't have BCS on it.

    And stupid comments aside, when Rogue did their brewer's beard yeast, it was a gimmick. GI does it with barrel fungus, and it's awesome. You can't argue GI 'trolls' us and gets away with it. They received their blank check with Rare.
  22. Dope

    Dope Advocate (670) Massachusetts Oct 5, 2010

    I was just thinking that myself. In fact I was wondering if this news was a joke given the name, but I guess not! Brett Porter, too funny - guess he was born to be a brewer. Maybe someone should try that one out...

  23. Bay01

    Bay01 Savant (455) Illinois Nov 19, 2008

    They did make a Brett Porter actually, but the beer didn't turn out as hoped and they dumped it.
  24. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Advocate (690) Missouri May 11, 2012 Beer Trader

    Lets stop crying children.

    And btw, Rare wasn't that great
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  25. well, that settles that debate.
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  26. jbland21

    jbland21 Aficionado (110) Illinois Jan 21, 2012

    That's because if it doesn't have BCS on it it is most likely their year-round offerings...which usually sit on shelves throughout the year anywhere.
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  27. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    For the record, I don't think the fungus is supposed to be in the beer, just on the outside of the barrel. It thrives in low ethanol environments, not high ones like you'd find inside a barrel. I think this beer is sort of a sneaky admission on GI's part that regular BC"B"S is no longer 100% BBA, while Baudoinia is, putting aside any alleged benefits of being a bottom-of-the-rack barrel.
  28. weatherdog

    weatherdog Savant (490) Illinois Nov 7, 2007

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  29. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Savant (420) Illinois May 6, 2012

    Am I missing something here?
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  30. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    BCS is a blend. 3% of that blend is Wheat Whiskey BCS, deemed unsuitable for its own release (despite GI's previous commitment to do so, per the 2012 Beer Calendar.) I assume that the remaining 97% may or may not be all bourbon barrels. I think calling it Bourbon County "Brand" Stout gives them a lot of leeway in the types of barrels used. It's just a brand name, not a factual description of the ingredients or production process.
  31. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    OTOH Baudoinia is marketed as being 100% heaven hill barrels from the bottom of the rack. So it's 100% BBA which BCS is not.
  32. weatherdog

    weatherdog Savant (490) Illinois Nov 7, 2007

    No one is saying that. Look at Cherry and Bramble. Those were aged in Rye barrels, not Bourbon yet no one has a problem with the 'Bourbon County' name. The problem I have is your complete asinine and unfounded accusation that it isn't, or in the future won't be 100% barrel aged.

    That is unless I'm misinterpreting you and I assumed you meant 100% barrel aged when your undefined and unused acronym of BBA stood for "Bourbon Barrel Aged"
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  33. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    Yeah I thought the extra B in BBA stood for Bourbon. It doesn't?

    But regardless, hypothetically speaking, even if it weren't 100% BA, I think they could still market it as BCBS, no problem, because the marketing material I see on the web makes no such claim.
  34. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    No drugs, just ethanol and a few spores of Baudoinia for good measure.
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  35. i haven't had any reason to doubt that bcbs is 100% barrel aged. it might not all be the same type of barrels, but nothing i've had in the flavour profile would suggest to me otherwise. but even then, i don't really care as long as they make beer that tastes as amazing as bcbs '11 and '12 did fresh (and still do).
  36. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    ^^^ agreed. Not trying to be critical of regular BCBS, just making the point that the relative deliciousness of Baudoinia may not come from the moldiness or the bottom rackness of it, rather the 100% bourbonness vs. Regular BCBS'12. I don't care what kind of barrels are used, as long as the end result is amazing, which Bourbon County Stout consistently is.

    Edit: Though I much preferred Baudoinia to Buffalo Trace BCS. So maybe there is something to the low storage thing. Regardless, I think I've raised some valid points. Perhaps calling GI "sneaky" was unnecessary, I'm just saying these aren't the exact same beers aged at slightly differing altitudes.
  37. He isn't saying that it is not 100% barrel aged, he is saying that 3% of the barrels are wheat whiskey barrels, produced in the same manner as bourbon barrels. I doubt anyone could tell the difference if something was only 97% bourbon/3% wheat whiskey barrel aged vs. 100% bourbon barrel aged.
  38. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    I feel confident that it is 100% barrel aged, given Goose's apparent transparency with YouTube videos and brewers being completely honest with customers. Two questions I have, before I hit the hay, are: 1) If Wheat Whiskey wasn't good enough to release on its own (too hot or whatever) does its presence adversely affect the taste of BCBS'12 and 2) would a side-by-side of Baudoinia (lowest rack) vs. Heaven Hill BCBS (all rack levels) reveal a meaningful difference? Obviously the brewers seem to think so, but that's not an experiment the public can recreate.
  39. Etan

    Etan Champion (765) Wisconsin Jul 11, 2011

    Where do you get this idea that they blended in 3% wheat whiskey BCBS?
  40. foobula

    foobula Savant (340) Illinois Dec 14, 2009

    Laffler and another brewer at the 6pm session, Black Friday event. The other guy said he fought to have Wheat Whiskey released on its own, even if it was too hot.