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Green Flash "West Coast" IPA

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by RaulMondesi, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Advocate (720) California Dec 11, 2006 Verified

    Is it me, or is Green Flash West Coast IPA more along the lines of an East Coast IPA? Lately I have had HopSlam, Hercules, Centennial, etc., and their general maltiness over robust fruit/hop notes, seems directly in line with Green Flash. Thoughts?

    On a side note, East Coast IPA's... I don't get them. They're More like a strong Ale's or an English style Ale's.
  2. Northlax3

    Northlax3 Savant (345) New Jersey Aug 19, 2012 Verified

    you must have gotten an off bottle.

    The West Coast IPA I know is very floral, has awesome subtle piney notes, and even has a pineapple and good citrus taste to it.
  3. Robtobfest

    Robtobfest Savant (465) Connecticut Oct 21, 2009 Verified

    Def a west coast style opa. Look at the bottled on date. Buy it fresh, report back.

  4. Must have been an old bottle because the hops really dominate the flavor profile.
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  5. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Advocate (720) California Dec 11, 2006 Verified

    Thanks everyone.

    And to the haters, lets please keep this to a friendly discussion (including myself).
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  6. dondeez21

    dondeez21 Savant (255) New Jersey Dec 27, 2006

    They def use more malt in West Coast IPA than other SoCal breweries typically use. But that is really the only thing "East Coast" about the beer.
  7. there are a ton of ipas on the east coast that are way better than the ones you listed that has the "west coast" hop profile your talking about. heady topper, flower power, double galaxy,
  8. Northlax3

    Northlax3 Savant (345) New Jersey Aug 19, 2012 Verified

    Kane Overhead as well.

    Actually enjoying my growler of it as I type. ;)
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  9. RaulMondesi

    RaulMondesi Advocate (720) California Dec 11, 2006 Verified

    I have had Heady and it is nothing short of amazing. As far as those "East Coast" IPA's I have listed, those are it as far as non west coast IPA's I have had. I would love to try Flower Power, and I'll look into Double Galaxy, thanks.
  10. PsilohsaiBiN

    PsilohsaiBiN Advocate (705) New York Aug 10, 2010 Verified

    What? Was your Green Flash younger than 6 months old?
  11. raynmoon

    raynmoon Advocate (620) Colorado Aug 13, 2011 Verified

    west coast= good
    east coast= i don't even know... goodish?
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  12. MichiBrew

    MichiBrew Aficionado (170) Michigan Nov 26, 2010

    Upper Midwest plus Vermont=very good (just so you know)...
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  13. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poobah (1,035) New Jersey Jun 3, 2004 Verified


    It's the same way as with pizza, hot dogs, pastrami, bagels, hamburgers, pasta...
    oh, wait...
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  14. jman005

    jman005 Advocate (550) Kentucky Jan 21, 2013

    Green Flash West Coast IPA is actually much different than Hopslam. East coast definitely has plenty of good IPAs though.
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  15. raynmoon

    raynmoon Advocate (620) Colorado Aug 13, 2011 Verified

    touche :cool:
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  16. KevinMc79

    KevinMc79 Savant (310) Illinois Oct 29, 2008 Verified

    Drinking a Heady Topper right now. Not like a Strong Ale at all. But also not like the westies either. I have some Pliny coming so I can try them side by side.
  17. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (565) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    There are very few "friendly" discussions on the Internetz. Most folk take advantage of the anonymous (sic) nature of it to show off their "prick" side. BTW, I know what yer talkin' about. I prefer Malty these days, over Hoppy.
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  18. KevinMc79

    KevinMc79 Savant (310) Illinois Oct 29, 2008 Verified

    Other than the bagels. I'm glad I live near Chicago for all of that.
  19. Agree with the other posts about find a fresher bottle and try again. I've found that to be the true nature of IPA's in general. I've gotten several 1/6 kegs of the same IPA's from local breweries that have tasted completely different because of their age. Temperature also plays a major factor. But that's just from personal experience, I don't have a beard, fancy mustache, or tattoos to back it up.
  20. sukwonee

    sukwonee Advocate (610) Washington Dec 13, 2011 Verified

    as much as I want to support beers from the west coast...

    Green Flash IPAs aren't very good... they're okay but not good enough to be compared to the greats from either coasts
  21. SUBER

    SUBER Savant (315) California Jan 26, 2013 Verified

    Oh shit its turning into a East Coast VS West Coast thing again :p
    Might have got a old bottle.
    The hops should dominate in this beer, tho I find its a tad malty for my liking.
    But its still a solid beer imo.
  22. n2185

    n2185 Advocate (685) North Carolina Apr 14, 2008 Verified

    The whole East vs. West Coast IPA argument is both ridiculous and pretentious.
  23. fmccormi

    fmccormi Champion (815) Florida Oct 24, 2010 Verified

    Well now. I should make it clear now that I've never had Hopslam, but I've had all of the others listed. And while I absolutely reject the "West Coast" vs. "East Coast" divide when people talk about variation between IPAs, I'll play along for now.

    Mr. Mondesi, I absolutely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. I've had plenty of both "styles" of IPAs, and to me a very good, fresh bottle of GF West Coast IPA more or less typifies that sub-style at its peak, in terms of combination of appearance, aroma, taste, feel, and drinkability. It's what all IPAs more or less wish they could be, with the exception of those going for super-fruity late-hop juiciness kinda deals like Sucks. WC IPA is not an overly malty IPA, by any means.

    And Hercules? Jesus hell. That shit is as malty or maltier than almost any "East Coast" IPA I've had. And I think you need to look into what characterizes English ale styles, because it's not just the proportion of malt to hops. Plenty of hoppy English IPAs out there.
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  24. Okay gentlemen, before this thread devolves any further:

    West Coast IPAs: Very hop forward, dry and crisp. (Usually)
    East Coast IPAs: Hop forward, but definitely a bit more balanced between the bitter hops and the sweet malts. (Usually)

    Neither style is better than the other, as everybody's palate is different. I tend to greatly prefer West Coast IPAs on most occasions, but I do enjoy a 90 Minute IPA every once in a while.

    Now lets all act like adults and not bicker over which coast is better than the other.

    Oh, yeah almost forgot....


  25. ChrisMon02

    ChrisMon02 Advocate (565) Ohio May 2, 2010

    Do yourself a favor and trade for Fathead's Headhunter from Ohio, yes, Ohio. It will change your mind about East coast IPA's.
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  26. Flashy

    Flashy Advocate (675) Vermont Oct 22, 2003 Verified

    It's like George Carlin said- the size of the assholes depends on how far away from you he is. When he's standing next to you, you whisper "look at this asshole" when he's in a car and your in a car you scream "asshole". Now with the internet forget about it.
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  27. GoGators

    GoGators Advocate (730) New Jersey Aug 5, 2010 Verified

    The whole "East Coast" "West Coast" thing is nonsense. There are so many great (hop forward) East Coast IPA's out there, but every time there is a great one, it gets labeled a "West Coast IPA". You can match up some of the Hill Farmstead IPA's, Heady, Flower Power, Jai Alai and many others against anything from the West Coast and choose a side. I don't get the geographical labeling thing at all when it comes to beers. I will take the Atlantic Ocean over the Pacific any day of the week though:).
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  28. NHbeerfishing

    NHbeerfishing Savant (455) New Hampshire Dec 31, 2012 Verified

    It's more of an Alchemist, Lawsons, Hill Farm unfiltered ipa/DIPA/pale ale style. The other "east coast" beers of the same variety are not the same. So maybe the category 3 brewers in VT style vs rest of country or VT style ipa? I used to believe that the big 3 of VT couldn't be touched, but after trading out a few cases of headies it became clear that the IPA/pale kings are everywhere. Hill Farm gets the edge on them all with so many home runs, but FFF, RR, Alpine, Kern etc are great! Green Flash not so much...
  29. patkorn

    patkorn Savant (270) California Aug 30, 2007

    Haters got a hate.
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  30. StubFaceJoe

    StubFaceJoe Initiate (0) Colorado Nov 24, 2011

    I got some ocean front property in Ohio, I'd love to sell you.
  31. WeymouthMike

    WeymouthMike Advocate (510) Massachusetts Jun 22, 2004 Verified

    Go buy a Dogfish 60 or Smuttynose IPA then drink a Green Flash, you will see the two coasts are nothing alike and Green Flash is west coast style.
  32. ChrisMon02

    ChrisMon02 Advocate (565) Ohio May 2, 2010

    Can't, I already own some...
  33. Inglewood

    Inglewood Advocate (725) Illinois Jan 28, 2013

    You've never had pizza until you've been to Chicago.
  34. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Advocate (705) Florida Jul 15, 2011 Verified

    Green Flash West Coast IPA tastes very similar to Stone IPA to me. Both very much west coast in style.
  35. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Advocate (705) Florida Jul 15, 2011 Verified

    Or if you get Lou Malnati's shipped to you.
  36. powpig2002

    powpig2002 Savant (400) Florida Jan 26, 2012

    hey, we call it the "right" coast for a reason
  37. Inglewood

    Inglewood Advocate (725) Illinois Jan 28, 2013

    Yeah that could cost a pretty penny, but they don't come close to the best around here. Vito & Nick's or Joe's Italian Villa. We cut our pies in squares not slices.
  38. Or New Haven, home of Apizza.
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  39. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Champion (940) Michigan Aug 29, 2012 Verified

    Because everyone loves a good dogpile...

    I've had quite a few so-called "West Coast" IPAs and I thought Green Flash's version is not only very representative of the substyle, but one of my favorite versions. So I would second the recommendations to try it again and make sure it's fresh. It's really quite a good brew.
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  40. powpig2002

    powpig2002 Savant (400) Florida Jan 26, 2012

    did i miss smething here? liten tough guys?