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Comment Heady Topper #1 on BA

Discussion in 'Site' started by joeebbs, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Horbar

    Horbar Advocate (675) Rhode Island Feb 24, 2012

    Do traders inflate the scores they give to their local brews in hopes of creating a demand? Probably.
    But, the ratings are what they are. The hads are always a bit higher, but they're still in line with the reviews for the most part.
  2. UncleJimbo

    UncleJimbo Site Editor (1,000) Massachusetts Sep 11, 2002 Staff Member

    Ha! Come on, if anything people local to Heady Topper should be rating it lower in order to DECREASE demand. Why would we want there to be more demand? Less for us.
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  3. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Champion (805) North Carolina Feb 16, 2011 Verified

    Im amazed that people notice this. i had no idea.
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  4. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Advocate (735) Massachusetts Dec 4, 2004 Verified

    Ok, maybe it's not a "fact" but the numbers I quoted are indisputable numbers. The ratings for the beers we can see on the top lists for each style, and the top 100 are all higher due to the immediate addition of "hads." As far as the bottom 100, I can't imagine tons of "hads" for Bud Light were added, and changed that number.

    I was talking about "WR" as a 4.7. I don't check the top 100 too often, but everytime I've checked recently Pliny the Younger has been number 1, and this rating was never 4.7, and has never been 4.7 for a beer. Ann was number 1 on the top 100 at some point?
  5. marine1975

    marine1975 Advocate (605) North Carolina Apr 27, 2009 Beer Trader

    I have no problem with it being ranked #1 as it is one of my favorite beers to date! The problem I have is that I need more arms and legs to have it more often! Good gawd!!! lol
  6. palma

    palma Savant (495) New York Dec 14, 2003 Beer Trader

    Quote="afrokaze, post: 813080, member: 339497"]I'm always surprised how much people care about the rankings on here.[/quote]
    Because rankings are cool. They are intriguing. Nothing wrong with that.
  7. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Savant (380) Vermont Jan 23, 2009

    I totally agree with this. I live pretty near by and pass by the brewery frequently so when I pick it up it's usually canning day or the day after. I find that it is a bit raw for the first week or three and then oh-so smooth over the next month or two.
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  8. bobv

    bobv Poobah (1,020) Vermont Feb 3, 2009 Beer Trader

    Had 2 day old next to 9 day old, no difference. 6 week old is old, big difference. IMHO.
  9. I won't lie, I'd need a sixer to test this for myself since I've yet to taste HT ;)

    I just remember seeing some post where it was stated that The Alchemist (and brewery employees) felt his brew needed a little time to really shine and thought I'd bring that up since so many BAs seem to chase IPAs that a mere days from being canned/bottled.
  10. Still not as good as the Elder ;)
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  11. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan Champion (930) New York Dec 13, 2009 Beer Trader

    Walez, bro!!!!

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  12. Same feelings here. Although i've had about 15 cans over the last 2 years. I Like the beer alot but there's at least 4-5 IPAs/DIPAs id take way before Heady. The more I drink it, the more I find it really good, just not Worthy of it's hype and over discussion on BA. Subjective, i know.
  13. BradtheGreat7

    BradtheGreat7 Savant (340) Ohio Jul 22, 2011

    Listen, Heady Topper was a top shelf double ipa, but the best beer in the world? Even in terms of popular is ridiculous to me. IMO its not even the best of the American double/imperial ipa style. It was very good both times I've had it, and ive been really big on big IPAs this past year or so and I tell you if it's sitting on a shelf next to Dreadnaught and Pliny the elder both of those get grabbed first. I just don't see how it's ranked higher than either of those double IPAs, and while ive never had younger it's supposed to be better than elder. So that's for certain 3 better in the style alone with Bell's Hopslam probably jumping it as well. Honestly it's one of the best dipas in the world, but with the wizardry going on with this style I can't say it would even be a given in the top 10. For me with the big IPAs I've had it sits around 10-12. But hey that's just me
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  14. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Advocate (635) Minnesota Feb 15, 2005

    Do you think maybe that is just due to sheer freshness because of how quickly it sells? Like, Heady gets snatched up and drank even faster than Pliny, so maybe that is why it is rated so much higher.
  15. kscaldef

    kscaldef Champion (855) Oregon Jun 11, 2010 Beer Trader

    That's just, like, your opinion man.

    And apparently a lot of people disagree with you.
  16. bobv

    bobv Poobah (1,020) Vermont Feb 3, 2009 Beer Trader

    Heady just went from 4.7 to 4.71, with 2 "reviews" and 23 "hads" in the last 11 hrs. Hmmm...interesting, indeed.
  17. skunkpuddle

    skunkpuddle Savant (405) California Feb 14, 2011

    I believe it is all those things but it is also a beer ranking website. I get it, the wizard has a lot of other functions but it can still be considered a tip calculator. The guy was surprised that people came on here and talked about or debated ratings and since that is a function of the website I found it an odd thing to say.
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  18. Eh, nevermind.

    Just suffice to say, my opinion of those who dither over rankings like this is rather low.
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  19. mixed_master7

    mixed_master7 Initiate (0) Florida May 16, 2012

    That's what the beer of fame 100 list is for..All brews with 1500+ reviews.

    That's normally what I look at when seeing "how many of the top 100 beers" I've had.
  20. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Advocate (745) Oklahoma Oct 22, 2010

    Yeah, that looks better. Not so abercrombie and fitch.
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  21. mixed_master7

    mixed_master7 Initiate (0) Florida May 16, 2012

    Haha, pretty good way of putting it.
  22. Satchboogie

    Satchboogie Advocate (680) New Hampshire Oct 16, 2010 Beer Trader

    Have you had it since the first couple batches? There really aren't floaties anymore.
  23. I never got the hate for HT appearance. I like a good cloudy beer. Those are flavor particles.
  24. Brunite

    Brunite Savant (430) Illinois Sep 21, 2009

    I drink my Pliny as fast as I can snatch it and I snatch pretty fast.
  25. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    They view beer as a "team" they root for. Like Ford v Chevy, football teams etc. It's idiotic. Like YEAH MAN BooYAH PLINY LOST TO HEADY HAHAHAHA I RULE!!!
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  26. nulledge

    nulledge Aficionado (180) Florida Jul 14, 2008

    Or some of us are numbers/stat nerds. But your thing works too, I guess.
  27. kscaldef

    kscaldef Champion (855) Oregon Jun 11, 2010 Beer Trader

    I think that's a definite minority compared to the people who feel like the results of the ranking are "wrong" because... well... MY BEER IS BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!
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  28. I would have no allegence towards heady if it was an inferior IIPA to PtE. But it isnt, so I do. Anyone want to send me something to convince me otherwise Id appreciate it! Only thing I havent had is Alpine, and thats on the way in the near future.
  29. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    How can someone "convince" you that something tastes better TO YOU? Even better - why would they?
  30. I was leaning towards the lines of someone sending me something ;). And they wouldnt really. I was kidding, its not like I expected someone to.
  31. celfan

    celfan Advocate (595) Vermont Jul 4, 2004 Beer Trader

    Looks like perfection to me.

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  32. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

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  33. I feel bad for y'all drinking clear IPAs.
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  34. you're not supposed to pour that beer - you broke rule number 1! :)
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  35. nanobrew

    nanobrew Advocate (645) California Dec 31, 2008

    When they made a switch a long while ago to the had scoring system I realize a huge number of my reviews had turned into 5s. It must have been due to some rounding or conversion error. I didn't notice until I was checking a beer and noticed I had given it a 5, but in reality knew there was no way in hell that happened. I checked all my hads and noticed a shit ton were like that, I went back and edited them as best I could.
  36. lonewolfcry

    lonewolfcry Champion (875) Minnesota Dec 7, 2007 Beer Trader

    You watch it that close?
  37. brewtus

    brewtus Savant (460) Ohio Dec 29, 2012 Beer Trader

    Good timing for my trip to VT I guess ha
  38. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Advocate (635) Minnesota Feb 15, 2005

    What I meant was that even though Pliny is in high demand and gets sold and drank fast, it doesn't turn over as fast as Heady, which I imagine usually gets drank within days of purchase.
  39. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Savant (490) New York Aug 21, 2012 Beer Trader

    The boys at Alchemist must be devastated by all this negative publicity. Quick, everyone run out and buy more HT to see for yourself if it deserves to be #1!