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Help on Price/Rarity of these beers?

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by JGates, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. JGates

    JGates Zealot (90) California May 18, 2011

    Would greatly appreciate if anyone could help me gauge the relative rareness of the below beers. I am not trying to "win" any trades I am just trying to get a general guide to what these beers cost/how many bottles were produced.
    So basically my question is, how much is it per bottle, and which bottles are rarer than others?

    King Henry
    CBS
    Hunahphu
    BA Hunahphu
    Darkness
    Zhukov
    Rare
    Dark Lord
    BA Dark Lord (bourbon, vanilla brandy)

    All help greatly appreciated!
     
  2. SpdKilz

    SpdKilz Champion (755) Illinois Jan 8, 2009 Verified

    My subjective opinion with ranking:

    BA DL/BA Hunahphu (depending on variety)
    Rare
    King Henry
    CBS
    Hunahphu
    Darkness
    Zhukov
    Dark Lord



    Price (will vary depending on if you were gouged or not):
    BA DL = $50
    Rare = $40-50
    King Henry = $15-20
    CBS = $20-30
    Hunahphu = $20 (I think)
    Darkness = $15-25
    Zhukov no clue
    Dark Lord = $15

    Prices often don't matter with rarer/harder to obtain beers (i.e. BA DL and BA Huna, Rare, KH, CBS, etc.). People will often trade other beers worth well over the price of the above listed beers just to obtain them.
     
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  3. I am sure someone can come up with more accurate figures but that will get you started.
     
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  4. JGates

    JGates Zealot (90) California May 18, 2011

    Thanks for the help guys!
     
  5. dman5400

    dman5400 Savant (255) Illinois Jan 13, 2011

    Dark lord is $15
    Darkness (I think) was $20
     
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  6. dman127

    dman127 Savant (320) Illinois Jul 11, 2011 Verified Subscriber

    Zhukov is about $13
     
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  7. here's how i'd rank them, value-wise (this makes no consideration for taste or dollar value, only trade value):

    Brandy Vanilla BA Dark Lord
    Bourbon Vanilla BA Dark Lord
    PVW BA Dark Lord
    BA Hunahphu (depending on variety - it seems like apple brandy is most desired)
    All other BA Dark Lord
    Rare
    King Henry/CBS (tie)
    Hunahphu
    Darkness
    Dark Lord
    Zhukov
     
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  8. LoPo87

    LoPo87 Savant (270) Oregon Mar 9, 2012 Verified

    Darkness was $18 this year.
     
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  9. I found it interesting that the PvW Dark Lord ranked the highest in the White Whales list, but the two Vanilla versions seem to be trading higher right now (someone traded a PvW DL + two other nice bottles for a Brandy Vanilla). Is that a more recent phenomenon?
     
  10. since i started browsing BA in late 2011/early 2012 i've seen far more ISO: vanilla DL than i have ISO: PVW DL in the trading forums. it's possible they were valued more equally around release (similar bottle count for sure) but as people have popped bottles along the way i think the vanilla became more desired due to taste.

    for the record, the only BA DL i've actually had is the 2012 de muerte. hoping to change that by attending a friend's 2012 BA DL tasting in a couple months...
     
  11. I'd tier them like so:

    BA Hunahphu
    BA Dark Lord (bourbon, vanilla brandy)

    Rare

    King Henry
    CBS

    Hunahphu

    Darkness
    Dark Lord

    Zhukov (This is a true "shelf beer")
     
  12. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    BA Hunas/BA Dark Lords



    Rare



    KH
    CBS
    Huna

    Darkness
    Dark Lord

    Zhukov

    Ymmv, some can slide a little depending on who you ask, but that is pretty close....spaces between intentional and represent different levels of desirability and "trading power" if you will.
     
  13. POTABLE83

    POTABLE83 Advocate (510) New York Jun 21, 2012 Verified

    I traded the pvw + 2 others for the brandy vanilla. Brandy vanilla seems to command the highest trade value, but pvw isn't too far behind (you just don't see too many ISO's). For these two, it seems that you definitely need something or equal rarity plus more to obtain. For the Bourbon vanilla, you can probably get it for quantity of desirable beers, such as KH - CBS - Fou Foune - BCBVS...

    Brandy Vanilla DL - 433 bottles
    PvW DL - 484 bottles
    Bourbon Vanilla DL - 934 bottles