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How do you pronounce Rochefort?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by stoutmasterjames, Mar 23, 2014.

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  1. I was saying Ro-sha-fort.

    A buddy corrected me "Ro-keh-fort"

    I read online somewhere "Rosh-for"

    Anyone definitively know how to pronounce this?
     
  2. djaeon

    djaeon Advocate (735) California Oct 2, 2006

    I don't know, but I say "Rock-uh-fort".
     
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  3. I've heard it pronounced "Rosh-Fare" and that sounded nice and fancy so I say that.
     
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  4. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Savant (405) Texas Oct 15, 2006

    My understanding is that the Abbey is in French-speaking Belgium.

    The French pronunciation is undoubtedly Rōsh-for. The O is long, as in "know."

    Source: moi
     
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  5. tstigz

    tstigz Savant (315) Illinois Dec 6, 2010

    "Roche-Fort"
     
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  6. You see my predicament? There have been four different pronunciations posted thus far. Do you speak French, thewrongtone? Because your answer seemed the most definitive.
     
  7. anyother

    anyother Aficionado (110) Ohio Oct 20, 2011

    This is closest to correct in this thread. The IPA for the city is ʁɔʃ.fɔʁ R as in roue, O as the o in sort in english. che as the SH in shoe. F, o as in sort again, and that same french r at the end no T.
     
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  8. Thanks. I guess I'll go with Rosh-for with a long "O" in "rosh" until someone else corrects me.
     
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  9. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Savant (330) Michigan Nov 18, 2009

    This is how I pronounce it too
     
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  10. anyother

    anyother Aficionado (110) Ohio Oct 20, 2011

    And when they correct you let them know that two people on the internet that speak french disagree with them. Cheers!
     
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  11. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Savant (405) Texas Oct 15, 2006

    Yes. I minored in French in college.
     
  12. mactrail

    mactrail Champion (785) Washington Mar 24, 2009

    "Debit card declined"
     
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  13. ions

    ions Savant (300) Maryland Jan 28, 2014

    "Rock Fort" in any kinda bad accent I can't conjure up at the time :D
     
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  14. edmaher

    edmaher Savant (375) Illinois Jan 11, 2008

    Whatever they say when the answer the phone at the abbey.
     
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  15. I pronounce it "yes please"
     
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  16. mtrutlin

    mtrutlin Savant (285) Colorado Apr 4, 2012

    It's pronounced "Roke-e-fore" (the e is more like an eh, not eeeee) There is a French cheese bearing the same name (which is equally as amazing as the beer).

    P.s., my wife is a French Professor and this is how she pronounces it. Pretty sure she's right.
     
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  17. ParkbrauFan

    ParkbrauFan Savant (400) Iowa Feb 8, 2014

    It is pronounced Rooshfour.

    The cheese is Roquefort
     
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  18. I also wonder how to pronounce "Uinta." Is it you in ta? Win ta?

    Edit: never mind. I just decided to google it.
     
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  19. My trick for these hard-to-pronounce names is to use Google Translate.

    The key is that you have to select the correct language of origin before you use the audio component. Obviously, it won't always be as good as asking a native speaker, but it's a pretty good approximation in most cases.

    http://translate.google.com/#fr/nl/rochefort
     
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  20. MrWilliams

    MrWilliams Savant (355) Arizona Nov 24, 2013

    Whenever I Google a beer question I am invariably led to a thread on BA...
     
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  21. Rosh-for
     
  22. From my schooldays I would say that the final t should not be pronounced, that the stress is slightly on the first syllable and I would suggest roshfor or roashfor (I'm sure both these would be commonly used)
     
  23. nc41

    nc41 Advocate (660) North Carolina Sep 25, 2008

    I'm in for Roke Fort too.
     
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  24. Bradthoc

    Bradthoc Savant (250) Nevada Jan 26, 2011

    Bartenders in Belgium always pronounced it "Rosh-for" with a long O. So, that's what I've gone with.
     
  25. Roguer

    Roguer Champion (950) Connecticut Mar 25, 2013

    I've Googled it before, and came to this conclusion. I usually pronounce it as "Roke-eee," as a nickname, essentially, but "Roke-eh-fore" seems to be correct.

    I don't claim to be an expert, though; that's just what my class at the University of Google taught me. :)
     
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  26. That's how I say it.
     
  27. Row-CHEE-fert.
     
  28. Person on internet passes off opinion as fact:(
     
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  29. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Savant (495) Florida Jun 13, 2012

    /thread

    (my fiance is from Belgium.... she concurs 100%... as do her parents)
     
  30. The middle e should certainly not be sounded, and in my hazy schooldays we would be taught to give the initial R a little flourish, like clearing the throat a little. say hrosh fort
     
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  31. I pronounce it "YUM"
     
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  32. Dirty25

    Dirty25 Savant (365) Germany Jan 22, 2012

    I'm going to the local Belgium bistro and ordering one to tomorrow to hear the translation
     
  33. Like said before by others, it's like Rosh-For. Been to the abbey twice, and that's how the monk selling cheese calls it. Pretty basic French phonetics!
     
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  34. timotao

    timotao Savant (355) New York Sep 16, 2013

    roach-fert
     
  35. readyski

    readyski Savant (265) California Jun 4, 2005

    rowchhe fort!

    I like it, I need it
     
  36. My wife and I had it for the first time years ago in Seattle, and the server seemed like he knew his shit, so we have always pronounced it the way he did, which is something like "Roe-sh-fer"
     
  37. I feel bad for her students then.
     
  38. You probably should have titled the thread, "How does Rochefort pronounce Rochefort?". I think when you said "you", people thought you just wanted them to tell you how they pronounce it and not how it's actually pronounced.:oops:
     
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  39. jimmy666

    jimmy666 Aficionado (230) Maryland Jun 20, 2010

    it is pronounced Ply-knee and if you don't say it right a grammar nazi will stab you.:D
     
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