How does Surly Darkness age and are the older vintages significantly more expensive?

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by Seanniek91, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. I've heard that it's a rather hoppy RIS, so I was wondering if anyone had any insight as to how well they age. I was also wondering what an older vintage would cost in a trade.
  2. davey101

    davey101 Initiate (0) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    Yes it ages well. Price is subjective since values assigned are very loose and its more about what the trader is interested in. '12 would just require some form of limited local. You're in NH so maybe some Portsmouth or Throwback bottles or possibly a brewery only Smuttynose release . '11 wouldn't be much harder to land than a '12 at this point, but older ones will require more limited and desirable beers. I wouldn't see a '10 or '09 going for less than a big time limited beer or a combination of limited stuff. But in the grand scheme of things its an $18 beer.
  3. Thanks a lot. Much appreciated!
  4. iadler

    iadler Savant (415) Illinois Aug 12, 2009

    My .02:

    - '10-'12 are pretty easy to get for somewhat limited beers
    - '08-09 are fairly difficult to get with either a couple limited beers or 1 solid beer
    - '07: don't even try

    Every year darkness is slightly different. Some years it's really hop forward other years, it's really sweet or fruity. It ages well but every vintage I've tried had noticeable difference in flavor profile. This year has been exceptionally hoppy, so if you don't like hoppy RIS's, you might want to let this one settle down for a year or two.
  5. davey101

    davey101 Initiate (0) Connecticut Apr 14, 2009

    '07 is/was considered a whale. aka very difficult to trade for
  6. iadler

    iadler Savant (415) Illinois Aug 12, 2009

    Yes , hopefully "don't even try", meant its a very large whale and very difficult to land rather than dont try the beer. :)
  7. OneBeertoRTA

    OneBeertoRTA Advocate (640) California Jan 2, 2010 Verified

    Just had an '09 a few months back, it's drinking really well right now. There are plenty of great beers out there, much easier to obtain that can fill the void.

  8. pest

    pest Savant (455) Ohio Sep 2, 2007 Verified

    This years darkness has been my favorite I've had fresh. Don't shy away from going after and drinking a '12
  9. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Savant (420) Illinois May 6, 2012

    I thought this years showcased a lot of dark fruit, much more than hops. This was both on tap and from the bottle. Am I alone on this?

    Edit: Really enjoyed it...
  10. dumptruck81

    dumptruck81 Savant (440) Texas Dec 28, 2011 Verified

    What's the basic price point for darkness?
  11. Mjmoser

    Mjmoser Savant (420) Illinois May 6, 2012

    $18 at brewery on DD