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Is Goose Island Night Stalker infected?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by geneseohawk, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. jsurfs82

    jsurfs82 Savant (380) Ohio May 13, 2008

    No and I wasn't banking on it going in to it. There are so many factors that could have caused this. I'm not pointing the finger at them.
     
  2. geneseohawk

    geneseohawk Savant (465) Illinois Nov 4, 2008

    I emailed them and got an email back asking me if I would send in a bottle to them. I plan to visit the brewery in a month or so- so I am just going to hand deliver a bottle to them. I don't suppose they will open it in front of me and drink it with me- but that is what I am hoping.....
     
  3. Drinking mine right now (11/19/12, 1517). The beer is not infected, people; it's just not very good. Hoping to rebound with a Big John.
     
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  4. Just had a 11/19/12 bottle. Some dark fruit flavors and tons of hops, but not notes of infection. Wicked smooth mouthfeel
     
  5. Yikes. I just bought a 11/19 1243 bottle, and I am really hesitant to open it. This thread seems to have mixed reports. Has anyone else learned anything more about this batch? Should I risk trying it, or just return it?

    (For what its worth, I bought it because I loved prior years batches. I also have a few 2011 bottles still aging in my closet.)
     
  6. Open it! Worst case scenario is that you find infected notes and dislike it. It wasn't a huge investment in a beer (though it also wasn't cheap) and is definitely work trying if you loved past years!
     
  7. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Aficionado (225) Maine Jun 20, 2009

    I had an 11/19/12 1515 bottle - it was as advertised, no sign of infection at all. I've got more 11/19/12 1515 and 1518 bottles downstairs and I'm not the least bit concerned about them.

    I think two things are happening here. One, you've got some people who just don't like the beer, don't like Goose Island/AB, or don't know what infected really is. But clearly there are some bad bottles too. The bad ones seem randomly mixed with the good ones, so some of the bottles must not have been properly cleaned before bottling....no other explanation makes sense. If the whole batch of beer was infected/contaminated/bad, they would all be bad.

    (I've experienced random one-bottle infections in other breweries' products before, i.e. one bottle out of a 6-pack erupts like a geyser when opened and tastes of cardboard, the others are fine. When it's bad enough to geyser, there's no question of subjectivity of "good" or "bad".)
     
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  8. Given AB's employment of high gravity brewing, it wouldn't be difficult to lower a batch of Bud Light's alcohol level to Busch Light's abv, but how do they get around the fact that the former is brewed with rice as the adjunct and the latter with corn?
     
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  9. This is exactly how my experience went. Soy sauce explosion. In the worst possible sense...beer was split with 2 other friends and none of us could finish our pours...
     
  10. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 8, 2011

    Anyone have a bottle NOT bottled on 11/19? Seems to be the lone date for Night Stalker...
     
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  11. Mavajo

    Mavajo Advocate (550) Georgia Feb 10, 2007

    I'm always amused how whenever these infection threads pop up, there's always a bunch of fuctards that claim the beer is fine and tell the OP (s)he's wrong, because they opened a bottle last night and it was fine! Because it's totally impossible for only some bottles to be infected, right? That's NEVER happened has it?

    Asshats.
     
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  12. Had a bottle last night of this, and though it was awful tasting, but not enjoyable something seemed off with the smell of it. Also the bottle ended up gushing foam after the first pour.
     
  13. JulianC

    JulianC Savant (345) Illinois Mar 9, 2012

    I remember drinking one fresh in 2011 after only having aged 2010s, and was ehh..... Not what I was expecting kinda bad. Since cracked a 2011 last week and was fantastic. I never plan on drinking NS fresh because it is abrasive. Sitting on a couple 2012s that won't get open until next football season at the earliest.
     
  14. For those that have had a bottle that was fine, don't think that other bottles can't be infected. There are multi-head fillers that could have a infection in one of the lines/head, just infecting the beer that went through that path. There are many things that could happen, so there is one way it could happen.
     
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  15. JulianC

    JulianC Savant (345) Illinois Mar 9, 2012

    Yeah maybe. I think people just haven't had a fresh Stalker before or at least not since Feb 2011 and forgot that experience. I remember it and now have the "don't drink Stalker less than 9mo old rule"

    It really isn't that great fresh... borderline poor. Aged it becomes excellent.
     
  16. rodlavers

    rodlavers Savant (435) Pennsylvania Jun 20, 2012

    It really isn't that great fresh... borderline poor. Aged it becomes excellent.[/quote]
    This year, we are told to consume within first 180 days.
     
  17. Nonsense!
     
  18. You may be right - it is the interwebz.
     
  19. overly hopped with magnum hops (12-14% alpha acid). soy sauce, berry syrup, balsamic reduction flavors. just give it a year, it might mellow out.

    not infected.
     
  20. Sam_E

    Sam_E Aficionado (175) Ohio Oct 11, 2012

    I just cracked a 11/19 bottle #1245 and had the same tastes. soy sauce and syrup
     
  21. stayclean

    stayclean Savant (360) Wisconsin Mar 17, 2012

    This year, we are told to consume within first 180 days.[/quote]
    Only if you want it hoppy.
     
  22. jsurfs82

    jsurfs82 Savant (380) Ohio May 13, 2008

    Not in my case buddy. I can enjoy a hoppy stout/porter ie. Alpha Klaus, Beer Hop Breakfast, the bad Night Stalker I had was not the hops that were the problem.
     
  23. Sam_E

    Sam_E Aficionado (175) Ohio Oct 11, 2012

    The warmer my beer got the worse and worse it tasted. Ended up pouring out about 1/4 of the bottle.
     
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  24. Cenosillicaphobe

    Cenosillicaphobe Savant (360) Maine Jul 24, 2011

    That was my experience exactly.
     
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  25. My friend and I both bought a bottle. He drank his and said it was terrible and smelled like broccoli with an acidic overtone so we opened mine at our monthly Craft Beer night a week later and it was the same, minus the broccoli-like nose. The nose on this one was almost nonexistent. Expected alot of floral notes and got nothing. 8 people agreed it was undrinkable. Half of us poured it out after 2 sips.
     
  26. ShemRahBoo

    ShemRahBoo Savant (495) New Jersey Jan 28, 2010

    Have a 11/19/12 1622 chilling right now, will post my experience
     
  27. I have 2 bottles, one is dated 11/19/12 1227 and the other is 11/19/12 1234. Hopefully they aren't infected.
     
  28. ShemRahBoo

    ShemRahBoo Savant (495) New Jersey Jan 28, 2010

    My 11/19 1622 is fine. Wasn't blown away but thought it was a solid imperial stout, can't compare to previous years as this is the first time I've had it. I did get a little of that odd soy sauce/teriyaki thing going on in the nose but it wasn't intrusive.
     
  29. at this point i think there are some people who are letting the news cloud their own judgement. there may well be an infection in some or even most bottles. but some of the descriptions being given are totally disparate from each other and from the common ones given for infection. for a more objective evaluation, people are gonna have to do this blind. someone has to test a friend who doesn't know they're being served nightstalker at all.
     
  30. Keffa

    Keffa Advocate (530) Ohio Jan 8, 2009

    There should just be a permanent sticky thread at the top of the forum that's called Is ???? Infected, and people can just add their "infected beers" to that thread. These types of threads always turn into a "It's infected" "No, it's not" "Yes it is, idiot" "No it's not, moron" dick wagging festival, and honestly, it gets old.
     
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  31. 316nuts

    316nuts Aficionado (185) Wisconsin Dec 10, 2011

    I just had a bottle. 11/19/2012 bottle date. Followed by the number sequence 1410. Had a distinct, overwhelming nose and body profile of soy sauce and/or teriyaki. Hops and licorice in the background. Little roast profile. This was unlike any stout I've ever had before. Very,very disappointed. Walked away from half a bomber.
     
  32. more than 90% of the time, soy/teriyaki is not a sign of infection, but oxidation. like i said, i think people are getting confirmation biased.
     
  33. PlayaPlaya

    PlayaPlaya Savant (285) Illinois Sep 19, 2012

    I'll GLADLY buy ALL Night Stalker that people think is "infected" . . . . . .

    I can't get enough of it.

    BM me if you want to unload it.
     
  34. Gillian

    Gillian Initiate (15) Jan 10, 2013

    Did any one confirm what is wrong with this beer? It tastes like it is burnt. My batch was 1433.
     
  35. Gillian

    Gillian Initiate (15) Jan 10, 2013

    Did they mention which batches were bad?
     
  36. 316nuts

    316nuts Aficionado (185) Wisconsin Dec 10, 2011

    Thanks for the feedback. I've never had an infected beer or an oxidized beer, so the overall experience was new and unusual for me.
     
  37. Horbar

    Horbar Advocate (570) Rhode Island Feb 24, 2012

    Opened 11/19 #1510
    I am pissed because I think this beer would have been awesome, but someone took a salt shaker to it. I love hoppy stouts and this one is ruined.
     
  38. I had one a few years ago and it had a bad PVC aftertaste and 'haven't touched it since. Wish I could provide more details, 'just remember it as one I'd never buy again.
     
  39. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Aficionado (225) Maine Jun 20, 2009

    This is really, really turning into a gripe session about the various reasons someone might not like a particular beer....
     
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  40. Drew26

    Drew26 Savant (355) Wisconsin Nov 2, 2012

    Having my second bottle from the 11/19/12 date, both batch 1406...and this one, like the first bottle I had a few weeks ago, is damn good!
     

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