So Hoptimum, Enjoy By, and Double Trouble aren't top notch DIPAs? Not everything has to be top 10 to be qualified as really good. The hopology pack was a joke. You can't say "he errs on the side of cation with tamer beer" when he called out IPAs for being "uninspiring/no surprise/etc". His IPAs/DIPAs are as uninspiring and forgetable as it gets. American IPAs are still a pretty new style that are showcasing new exciting hops. That's not uninspiring or "all tasting the same", etc. Brewing the same average English style IPAs is uninspiring. The comments of Utopia etc are in reference to him claiming that big, experimental beer doesn't make a good brewer and shouldn't be the focus of the craft. He practically invented the extreme beer movement, so how in the world can he rally against it? He completely comes across as being butt-hurt that he is no longer thought of as one of the best brewers in the country.