MrOH and myself have decided to sort of co-brew a Juniper Pale Ale and trade the results. We're going to work from the same basic recipe, with a little wiggle room for individual flare and/or availability of ingredients. My original Juniper Pale Ale was an extract/partial mash ale. MrOH got his hands on some, and apparently he liked it enough to want to try a version of it himself! Admittedly, it was pretty good, one of my better extract beers. I liked it, other people liked it, and I thought it was worthy of trying again, this time all-grain. The premise of our project is that we're both going to brew the same basic spiced beer / APA using these parameters... 9 lbs base malt, any combination 1 lb crystal malt, any combination 1 oz juniper berries Essentially, that's the beer (5 gallons). The addition of juniper isn't specified exactly as to how, but from our conversations we both intended to crush the berries and add late in the boil. Hops wise we hadn't come up with an exact criteria, but MrOH suggested: 1.5oz hops @ 10 2.5oz hops @ FO 1oz DH bittering addition to bring it up to 40 IBUs (max) I will probably change the hops parameters a little, but essentially it won't make much difference. We are looking for a beer that's a good APA/spiced beer, has a light to moderate juniper taste (I don't want "gin beer"), is neither too bitter nor dominated by hops (i.e. let the juniper have a little sunlight), and is refreshing and tasty. Mostly the last one though, tasty is what matters. But I guess there's no point in making a "juniper" beer if you don't show off the juniper a little. BTW the original beer was hopped with NB for bittering, chinook and willamette late, and chinook and willamette dry. I'm trying a new hop combination this time, but damn, that one did work out good! But I'm close to out of both willamette and chinook. Now I know I'm probably rambling on a bit, but I've been known to do that, so please do allow me to continue. My own tentative recipe... 7 lbs 2-row 2 lbs maris otter 12 oz 20L crystal 4 oz 60L crystal 1 oz juniper berries, finely crushed, in a paint bag, at 10 minutes (I'm probably not going to change this, lol) Hopping schedule (still tentative) 17 g Belma 60 minutes (23.3 IBUs) 22 g Cascade 15 minutes (9.7 IBUs) 17 g Belma 5 minutes (4.7 IBUs) 28 g Belma FO 28 g Cascade FO 28 g Belma dry hop 37.7 IBUs total Now I haven't gotten to my Belma IPA yet, and I'm anxious to try some of the three pounds of Belma hops I have, so I figured this would be the time! If anyone has any major concerns regarding Belma, Cascade, and/or Juniper, please do elaborate in great detail! Otherwise, I am hoping this will be a good beer, sort of a slightly after xmas treat of a pseudo-winter beer. Or maybe I just want to duplicate what was a good beer the first time around! Comments, flames, or "I want to jump on board the juniper bandwagon" posts welcome! If anybody wants to try this themselves, we could always expand the project/trade.