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Lagunitas Sucks hops

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SeaOfShells, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Savant (350) California Feb 22, 2011

    Hey all.

    I sent an email to Lagunitas on Friday inquiring about the hops they use in Sucks, and I got a response this morning. I also asked about future 32oz format plans. Here is the response

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  2. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Advocate (635) Minnesota Feb 15, 2005

    kinda surprised at that hop bill
  3. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Savant (350) California Feb 22, 2011

    Agreed. I was almost certain they used Citra.
  4. jcb7472

    jcb7472 Advocate (545) Florida Jul 13, 2011 Beer Trader

    Dammit! Please make this year round, Lagunitas!
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  5. jglowe77

    jglowe77 Initiate (0) Massachusetts Jan 24, 2011

    I had that HBC-342 hop variety in Slumbrew Snow Angel as well. Both are great beers; the Snow Angel is a little more sweet and has more fruit notes, whereas the Sucks is a little more aggressive and resiny and piney. Again, both are excellent.
  6. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Advocate (635) Minnesota Feb 15, 2005

    So maybe that's where the sweet fruity hop notes come from.
  7. BruChef

    BruChef Savant (315) New York Nov 8, 2009

    Coulda sworn its dry hopped with citra.
  8. raffels

    raffels Savant (310) West Virginia Dec 12, 2009

    Chinook and Nugget. Now I know the answer to my question from last night about "what am I tasting". Both of those have flavors I find a bit overwhelming. Thanks...
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  9. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Advocate (730) Colorado Dec 9, 2011 Beer Trader

    A good cook never gives up all of the ingredients of a recipe. Does a good brewery give up all of the ingredients of a beer? Perhaps there are Citra hops in Sucks.
  10. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Savant (350) California Feb 22, 2011

    I don't think the hops themselves are secret. I'm pretty sure they'd never reveal the hops schedule though. Although I'm not that familiar with HBC342, I've read that it has a citrus quality similar to Citra.
  11. fox227

    fox227 Advocate (610) California Nov 19, 2010

    That would be a good one to bug the wait staff at beer bars: "which is the best beer with HBC342 hops?" That would get you quite a look, I'd wager.
  12. HBC342 hops were developed by the same people who came up with Citra.
  13. luwak

    luwak Savant (405) Arizona Mar 2, 2010 Beer Trader

    me too.
  14. jhartley

    jhartley Poobah (1,330) Florida Aug 22, 2010 Beer Trader

    I thought there was Chinook & Simcoe. Surprised as much as everyone else that there's no Citra.
  15. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Advocate (725) Virginia Jan 27, 2013 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Thanks for the post! Good information to know.
  16. Enjoying a Sucks now as I type. Very impressed with this beer
  17. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Savant (490) New York Aug 21, 2012 Beer Trader

    Anyone know the significance of the name "HBC342"?
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  19. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Savant (490) New York Aug 21, 2012 Beer Trader

    So it looks like its a patent number. Is it a composite of mixed hops? I couldn't tell from the description other than the fact that they were pellets. Interesting. Thanks for the site.
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  20. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Savant (350) California Feb 22, 2011


  21. As stated HBC=Hop Breeding Company. That was formed from Select Botanicals and John Hass's breeding programs.

    The 342 is the field trial number. sometimes you will see X-342. Citra was HBC-394, and Mosaic was X-369.

    Field trials, maybe a 2-3 acres, are the last step in the breeding program. If the hops have good agronomics and are liked by the brewers, then commercial planting begins and the hop is given a trade name.
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  22. Ri0

    Ri0 Poobah (1,165) Wisconsin Jul 1, 2012 Beer Trader

    After drinking another Sucks, I searched what hops where in it. This was great to find as it gave me a bit more info on the HBC 342 hops. I asked Toppling Goliath if they used this hop in any of their X-Hop batches.
  23. mechamifune

    mechamifune Savant (415) North Carolina Jan 26, 2008 Beer Trader

    thanks for posting, i've been wondering this myself.
  24. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Missouri Nov 24, 2009

    Citra used to be called X114 I think, pre 2009. There are tons of experimental hop strains, that won't be named until they pick up popularity.
  25. pixieskid

    pixieskid Advocate (670) Germany Jun 4, 2009

    Curious to know what this new varitey will be called... citra had its number name stated above as did mosaic, could be the next hot hop.
  26. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Missouri Nov 24, 2009

    I wondered where that melon flavor came from.
  27. AnalogErik

    AnalogErik Advocate (595) Minnesota Jul 23, 2013 Beer Trader

    How long before colorado starts spitting out Marijuana hopped beers? I believe the buds are of the same genus as hops.
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  28. DemoniChris

    DemoniChris Savant (460) Nebraska Jun 4, 2013

    People in Cali have already experimented doing so with wine. I wouldn't imagine too long before this becomes a thing if possible to maintain a steady brewing process.
  29. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Initiate (0) Missouri Nov 24, 2009

    Secret ingredients in Sucks: Sour Diesel & OG Kush!
  30. zestd

    zestd Savant (470) Idaho Jan 18, 2013

    It needs Pineapple Express with a touch of the MILF weed...maybe the Brown Bomber too.
  31. eightman

    eightman Disciple (65) Iowa Feb 3, 2014 Beer Trader

    What was the response from Toppling Goliath? I suspect they were testing out hops even newer than HBC-342.
  32. Donco

    Donco Advocate (540) Pennsylvania Aug 12, 2013 Beer Trader

    If this is a "seasonal", wouldn't it make more sense to have it in the late Spring? Very much a hot weather beer!
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  33. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Savant (370) Illinois Feb 28, 2013 Beer Trader

    i definitely thought it was nelson and citra
  34. Whatever they use, I don't care. Shit's insane.

    I wish I knew what Lagunitas used to get that tea flavor in their beer. Maybe it's their yeast? All their IPAs have a distinct flavor to me.
  35. Ri0

    Ri0 Poobah (1,165) Wisconsin Jul 1, 2012 Beer Trader

    They told me that they could not reveal which hops were being used.
  36. Such an awesome well balanced brew!
  37. Rutgers13

    Rutgers13 Savant (250) New Jersey Nov 12, 2013

    I would think it is their "house" yeast. I do like that distinct flavor in their beers.
  38. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Champion (885) Maryland Oct 31, 2013 Beer Trader

    Trainwreck Kush x with Sour Diesel x with Super Silver Haze. Mmm, liquid dreams.
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  39. Finally, finally found a six pack of Sucks here. Apollo? Interesting.
  40. Roudy

    Roudy Savant (400) Georgia Aug 20, 2009 Subscriber

    I bought a growler of Hanf (Hemp) beer from Siebensternbrau in Vienna last Thanksgiving. Served it to my daughter and her study abroad classmates at dinner. Definitely herbal tasting.

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