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Lagunitas Sucks hops

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SeaOfShells, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Member

    Location:
    California
    Hey all.

    I sent an email to Lagunitas on Friday inquiring about the hops they use in Sucks, and I got a response this morning. I also asked about future 32oz format plans. Here is the response

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  2. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Member

    Location:
    Minnesota
    kinda surprised at that hop bill
  3. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Member

    Location:
    California
    Agreed. I was almost certain they used Citra.
  4. jcb7472

    jcb7472 Member

    Location:
    Florida
    Dammit! Please make this year round, Lagunitas!
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  5. jglowe77

    jglowe77 Initiate

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I had that HBC-342 hop variety in Slumbrew Snow Angel as well. Both are great beers; the Snow Angel is a little more sweet and has more fruit notes, whereas the Sucks is a little more aggressive and resiny and piney. Again, both are excellent.
  6. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Member

    Location:
    Minnesota
    So maybe that's where the sweet fruity hop notes come from.
  7. BruChef

    BruChef Member

    Location:
    New York
    Coulda sworn its dry hopped with citra.
  8. raffels

    raffels Member

    Location:
    West Virginia
    Chinook and Nugget. Now I know the answer to my question from last night about "what am I tasting". Both of those have flavors I find a bit overwhelming. Thanks...
  9. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Member

    Location:
    New York
    A good cook never gives up all of the ingredients of a recipe. Does a good brewery give up all of the ingredients of a beer? Perhaps there are Citra hops in Sucks.
  10. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Member

    Location:
    California
    I don't think the hops themselves are secret. I'm pretty sure they'd never reveal the hops schedule though. Although I'm not that familiar with HBC342, I've read that it has a citrus quality similar to Citra.
  11. fox227

    fox227 Member

    Location:
    California
    That would be a good one to bug the wait staff at beer bars: "which is the best beer with HBC342 hops?" That would get you quite a look, I'd wager.
  12. MikeRoni

    MikeRoni Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    HBC342 hops were developed by the same people who came up with Citra.
  13. luwak

    luwak Member

    Location:
    Arizona
    me too.
  14. jhartley

    jhartley Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I thought there was Chinook & Simcoe. Surprised as much as everyone else that there's no Citra.
  15. Cubatobaco

    Cubatobaco Member

    Location:
    Virginia
    Thanks for the post! Good information to know.
  16. CurtisMcArthur

    CurtisMcArthur Member

    Location:
    Tennessee
    Enjoying a Sucks now as I type. Very impressed with this beer
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  17. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Member

    Location:
    New York
    Anyone know the significance of the name "HBC342"?
  18. PackPride

    PackPride Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
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  19. Dirtinabottle

    Dirtinabottle Member

    Location:
    New York
    So it looks like its a patent number. Is it a composite of mixed hops? I couldn't tell from the description other than the fact that they were pellets. Interesting. Thanks for the site.
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  20. SeaOfShells

    SeaOfShells Member

    Location:
    California
    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f37/hbc-342-hops-274501/

  21. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    As stated HBC=Hop Breeding Company. That was formed from Select Botanicals and John Hass's breeding programs.

    The 342 is the field trial number. sometimes you will see X-342. Citra was HBC-394, and Mosaic was X-369.

    Field trials, maybe a 2-3 acres, are the last step in the breeding program. If the hops have good agronomics and are liked by the brewers, then commercial planting begins and the hop is given a trade name.
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  22. Ri0

    Ri0 Member

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    After drinking another Sucks, I searched what hops where in it. This was great to find as it gave me a bit more info on the HBC 342 hops. I asked Toppling Goliath if they used this hop in any of their X-Hop batches.
  23. mechamifune

    mechamifune Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    thanks for posting, i've been wondering this myself.
  24. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Member

    Location:
    Missouri
    Citra used to be called X114 I think, pre 2009. There are tons of experimental hop strains, that won't be named until they pick up popularity.
  25. pixieskid

    pixieskid Member

    Location:
    Germany
    Curious to know what this new varitey will be called... citra had its number name stated above as did mosaic, could be the next hot hop.
  26. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Member

    Location:
    Missouri
    I wondered where that melon flavor came from.
  27. AnalogErik

    AnalogErik Member

    Location:
    Minnesota
    How long before colorado starts spitting out Marijuana hopped beers? I believe the buds are of the same genus as hops.
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  28. DemoniChris

    DemoniChris Member

    Location:
    Nebraska
    People in Cali have already experimented doing so with wine. I wouldn't imagine too long before this becomes a thing if possible to maintain a steady brewing process.
  29. Jake1605

    Jake1605 Member

    Location:
    Missouri
    Secret ingredients in Sucks: Sour Diesel & OG Kush!
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  30. zestd

    zestd Member

    Location:
    Idaho
    It needs Pineapple Express with a touch of the MILF weed...maybe the Brown Bomber too.
  31. eightman

    eightman Member

    What was the response from Toppling Goliath? I suspect they were testing out hops even newer than HBC-342.
  32. Donco

    Donco Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    If this is a "seasonal", wouldn't it make more sense to have it in the late Spring? Very much a hot weather beer!
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  33. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Member

    Location:
    Illinois
    i definitely thought it was nelson and citra
  34. Alextricity

    Alextricity Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Whatever they use, I don't care. Shit's insane.

    I wish I knew what Lagunitas used to get that tea flavor in their beer. Maybe it's their yeast? All their IPAs have a distinct flavor to me.
  35. Ri0

    Ri0 Member

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    They told me that they could not reveal which hops were being used.
  36. BigMike

    BigMike Member

    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Such an awesome well balanced brew!
  37. Rutgers13

    Rutgers13 Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    I would think it is their "house" yeast. I do like that distinct flavor in their beers.
  38. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Member

    Location:
    Maryland
    Trainwreck Kush x with Sour Diesel x with Super Silver Haze. Mmm, liquid dreams.
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  39. CalgaryFMC

    CalgaryFMC Member

    Location:
    Alberta (Canada)
    Finally, finally found a six pack of Sucks here. Apollo? Interesting.
  40. Roudy

    Roudy Member

    Location:
    Georgia
    I bought a growler of Hanf (Hemp) beer from Siebensternbrau in Vienna last Thanksgiving. Served it to my daughter and her study abroad classmates at dinner. Definitely herbal tasting.

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    Last edited: Feb 4, 2014

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