Dismiss Notice

Site Performance Updates: We're aware of the nightly site outage, and working on resolving the issue.

Follow our progress ...

Lagunitas Sucks to be Year Round

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by NJOssie, May 9, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Advocate (515) California Jan 1, 2011 Beer Trader

    If Union Jack is a Single IPA, then so is Sucks. But yes, I do agree that Maximus should replaced regardless. I wish they would replace Maximus with Hop Stoopid in 6 packs. You really think Maximus has the same amount of hops as Sucks? I think Sucks is dry hopped A LOT more.
  2. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Advocate (515) California Jan 1, 2011 Beer Trader

    I dont have a lot of NZ hop experience, but i detect LOADs of Simcoe in the aroma.
  3. P
    maximus over sucks????? Subjective, but offfff with your head!!!
  4. Hop content determines IPA/DIPA line not ABV... so no it is not the same... And also Maximus flows off the shelves here... Once again probably from people who do not frequent sites like this and look at rating and read hype. Personally I think it says a lot about a beer like Maximus to always be around fresh and have it be such a middle of the road offering to people on this site. The truth of the matter is they keep it year round for a reason... It sells well and people love it. Maybe not some people on here but most normal(ya I said it) people do.
    fmccormi and RBassSFHOPit2ME like this.
  5. Ya, I know.... Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. But do not get me wrong I love sucks, Just got to my area and I got 3 6's of without hesitation. I just prefer Maximus because of the Malt back... Unlike some I just find it benefits IPA/DIPAs rather then hurt them. But I think the lesson here is Lagunitas, for the size they are can really make some world class hoppy beers!
    RobertV916 likes this.
  6. There's no hope for u. :-/
    nickapalooza86 likes this.
  7. It is ok, I am really, really good looking! :cool:
  8. flayedandskinned

    flayedandskinned Advocate (515) California Jan 1, 2011 Beer Trader

    Completely disagree. By that rationale, Sculpin, Blind Pig and Big Eye must be double IPAs. Name a regular IPA that is 8%.
  9. PlayaPlaya

    PlayaPlaya Savant (295) Illinois Sep 19, 2012

    I wouldn't mind seeing Sucks year round....But any reason why this new batch still says Limited Release if its year round now ???????
    pschul4 likes this.
  10. kmatlack

    kmatlack Savant (395) California Mar 29, 2010 Beer Trader

    Don't have a dog in this fight but there are plenty of "single" IPAs that are 8% or above (according to BA, not me)

    Most notably:
    -Bear Republic Hop Rod Rye
    -Oskar Blues Deviant Dales
    -Oskar Blues G'Rauch
    -Golden Road Burning Bush

    Not trying to prove anyone wrong here, just thought it would be a fun time to try and find single IPAs above 8% and report my findings.

  11. DogTown

    DogTown Savant (305) California May 17, 2006

    Ola... The difference tween doubles and singles and triples and even fractional IPA's is pretty sketchy from a recipe point of view. For Lag, the even the DayTime recipe is slightly more expensive to brew than the regular IPA, and the difference is not the malt cost! The pounds of hops are similar; its the variety that makes the cost AND the hop profile flavor difference.

    The Maximus (brewed with the same essential hop bill since 1996!) was our first shot at figuring out what a double might be and it uses exclusively 'old school' hops like Willamette and Liberty and Cascade, so its hop profile is somewhat modest compared to the sucks which uses almost all new school' hops, which are mostly way more expensive due to basic demand for them, although the Sucks isn't really a statistically bigger beer than the Maximus.

    Its true that 'names make conversation easier', but a rose by any other name would... well... By any sort of pre-2000 definition the Sucks is a triple, but things never seem to stop changing.
    BrettHead, bld81, fmccormi and 6 others like this.
  12. DogTown

    DogTown Savant (305) California May 17, 2006

    ...btw... the Sucks WILL become a year-round brew and when it does it will be in a 32oz bomber (think of it as a mini growler), but things are going a little slow for that because the glass company is dragging its ass on getting the bottle ready for us. I have read that some here think that a 32oz bottle is stoopid, but then we already have a beer called Stoopid, so I'm cool with that... lol......
  13. “ …the Sucks WILL become a year-round brew and when it does it will be in a 32oz bomber.”

    I am interpreting the above statement to mean that once Sucks becomes a year-round product that the intention is to solely package it in 32 oz. bottles. Is it possible to package it in multiple formats? E.g., 32 oz. bottles and 12 oz. bottles?

  14. PlayaPlaya

    PlayaPlaya Savant (295) Illinois Sep 19, 2012

    Yes. Why not??

    Ruination is sitting in front of me in both bombers and 4-packs . . . .
  15. phildo7pt9

    phildo7pt9 Zealot (85) California May 1, 2011

    You really can't go wrong with Ruination! I have a growler fill in my fridge
  16. DogTown

    DogTown Savant (305) California May 17, 2006

    Enjoy your two formats of Ruination! I will be putting the Sucks in multiple formats, 32oz mini-growlers and 15.5 gal kegs, prolly 7.25 gallon kegs too (both of which will yeild 16oz pints!)... and of course there'll be full-sized growlers.

    In structuring a brand I am careful to give more than a little thought to how I want to present it and to what end. Notice that we don't do cans. I suppose that some would say that brewers should put every flavor they brew in every package possible to gain as many sales as possible from as many peeps as possible, but isn't that the kind of crap that BIG brewers get into? How about a 24-pack, no- how about a 30-pack suitcase of aluminum cans of Sucks? Why not both?

    I just plain think that a 32oz bottle of Sucks next to the 32oz bottle of King Cobra sounds like fun.

    ...call me stoopid...

    Cheers all....
  17. incutrav

    incutrav Savant (315) Minnesota Jan 16, 2007

    The quart bottle is a 'fun' idea. However I dont always like to commit to essentially drinking three beers, when cracking one. That is more my problem I suppose.

    If its priced close to the equivelant per oz that it is now, it would be around 4.50 a quart, which would be nice as well.
  18. I really appreciate you coming here and giving some insight. It's always good to hear the method behind the madness.
    jcb7472 and RobertV916 like this.

  19. “However I dont always like to commit to essentially drinking three beers, when cracking one. That is more my problem I suppose.”

    I personally do not think you have a “problem”. I also don’t want to always drink “three beers” and I prefer the option to just drink a single 12 oz. beer in my home.

    I would be imprudent for me to state that DogTown is “stoopid”. He certainly has the right to make business decisions. I would like to believe that he would like to hear feedback from his customers on packaging options.

  20. nc41

    nc41 Champion (855) North Carolina Sep 25, 2008 Beer Trader

    From memory kinda like a Pliny clone.
  21. ravot

    ravot Advocate (535) Illinois Mar 20, 2012 Beer Trader

  22. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Advocate (635) Minnesota Feb 15, 2005

    I say just have several IPAs in the lineup both year round and seasonal...if anyone can do it, Lagunitas can.
    nickapalooza86 likes this.
  23. Pelican5

    Pelican5 Savant (375) California Feb 4, 2012 Beer Trader

    Give it to us in old used ketchup bottles I dont care! As long as I can have it year round! :D
  24. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan Champion (930) New York Dec 13, 2009 Beer Trader

    i'd buy it!!!!
  25. DogTown

    DogTown Savant (305) California May 17, 2006

    I wanna tell you in a friendly way that saying anyone else's beer is a a clone of 'some-other-brewers-beer' might be an easy shorthand for conversation and I do read that sort of unsophisticated commentary all the time and even though you may have meant it as a compliment, it is also demeaning and sorta insulting. I know Vinnie and I know Pliny, and Sucks is only similar in that they are both beer. Sorry for the buzz kill....
  26. johng

    johng Aficionado (210) New York Feb 18, 2006

    Local beer distributor just tapped a keg of Sucks for the growler station. $11.99 for a 64oz. Town over has Brown Shugga on their station. Also $11.99 for a 64 oz. Gonna be a Lagunitas weekend for the wild cards!!!!!!!!!!
  27. Ri0

    Ri0 Poobah (1,165) Wisconsin Jul 1, 2012 Beer Trader

    If you like Maximus, what do you think of Ale Asylum Satisfaction Jackson? It has a big malt backbone which seems to keep the score low, as noted in many comments.
  28. I thought it was great when I had it. However at almost $14/6 I tend to grab Maximus at around 9.... Other then that they are both fine beers in my book.
  29. Ri0

    Ri0 Poobah (1,165) Wisconsin Jul 1, 2012 Beer Trader

    I agree that it is expensive, but good.
  30. ewright

    ewright Savant (450) North Carolina Oct 25, 2007

    I just brought home a case of Sucks on Monday and I'm STILL jealous over this!!!
  31. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (660) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    Picked up 2 6-packs in South Austin. Yay!
  32. skinsfan

    skinsfan Champion (950) Maryland May 24, 2005 Beer Trader

    No buzz kill here. Pliny is Pliny, Sucks is Sucks. Both are fantastic, and for anyone to just casually claim that any one fabulous beer is a "clone" of a different but equally fabulous beer is worthless and amateur hour in my opinion. Give people a BA name and avatar pic and they will say all kinds of crazy shit. Cheers, and CANNOT wait until I have a case or 3 of Sucks in my possession here in the DC/MD/VA area!
  33. Agreed!

    I readily admit that I'm not an IPA guy, but over the past couple weeks I have been checking out different IPAs in the hopes of "coming around."

    As of right now, Sucks and Pliny are my go-tos. Both absolutely delicious and unique in their own right. If you can't taste the difference and appreciate them for what they bring, then I think you need to keep studying. Other IPAs just didn't move me as much as those two.
    skinsfan likes this.
  34. Wow, this is amazing! Wish they did that where I live...
  35. KevSal

    KevSal Advocate (710) California Oct 17, 2010 Beer Trader

    whole foods in the bay got their stash on friday. one in rdub has cases of it on display

    had it over the weekend while watching football, its drinking fantastically
  36. We are still waiting here in Charlotte. Waiting Sucks :) was my favorite beer from all of last year...
  37. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Advocate (685) Massachusetts Mar 29, 2007 Beer Trader

    As someone who splits his summers between the beach on Cape Cod and the track in Saratoga, I can assure you that a suitcase of Sucks cans would be a weekly purchase all July and August. Have done similar with Harpoon IPA, Avery IPA, and Dale's Pale Ale in the past. A 32 oz. glass mini-growler would be a novelty purchased only when meeting up with friends at someone's house.
  38. FarmerTed

    FarmerTed Savant (405) Colorado May 31, 2011

    Well, if you plug the O.G. (1.085) and ABV (7.85%) into an ABV calculator, you come up with a finishing gravity near 1.026. That sure as hell isn't a Pliny clone, unless you're a really shitty brewer. I doubt Russian River's ever done a beer that finished with such a high gravity. And yet, this beer kicks ass. Go figure.
  39. Stevedore

    Stevedore Poobah (1,065) Wisconsin Nov 16, 2012 Beer Trader

    Good to know it's going to be there when I feel like a good DIPA.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.