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MBC evicted from its headquarters

Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by steebo777, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. steebo777

    steebo777 Advocate (580) Michigan Jun 30, 2009 Verified



    Michigan Brewing Co. was evicted Tuesday from its headquarters in Webberville, according to court records and officials familiar with the case. [...] It’s unclear at this point how the eviction could affect MBC’s other sites, including its downtown Lansing restaurant and brew pub, or its beverage-making business, which include rocker Kid Rock’s American Badass Beer.
  2. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 8, 2011

    Was it a lease, or foreclosure? And I'm assuming there was some planning that went into this, as this isn't a one day process.
    Edit: read the Lansing article, it was a foreclosure, and sounds like someone bought it at the auction, but couldn't work out a lease agreement.
  3. Bay01

    Bay01 Savant (455) Illinois Nov 19, 2008

    Apparently the Fenton brewery project is still on though, very strange.
  4. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 8, 2011

    Some of the comments at the bottom of the Patch article are pretty telling. Not sure the local community is thrilled about having to "help" along a business that is already struggling, just to fill space. The craft beer scene in Michigan is really a tough market right now, and you aren't going to make it producing sup-par beers, and teaming up with a local "superstar" to sell your beer. I'm just going to say it, their beers have never appealed to my palate, and this news wasn't really a surprise to me.
    adamdd, nanobrew and Hokenfloken like this.
  5. Hokenfloken

    Hokenfloken Savant (255) Michigan Jun 6, 2009

    I agree. This has been a long time coming. I don't like or buy any of their beers. Neither do any of my beer-drinking friends. MBC sits on the shelf next to some pretty heavy hitters here in Michigan and I never grab anything they make.
  6. Not sure how the Lansing space will survive or Fenton get off the ground based on how they are structured. I don't think they are actually brewing at either location but rather are transferring beer from the Webberville production facility to each location. Under Michigan law a production brewery may open a restaurant on site of the production facility or satellite locations but can only serve alcoholic beverages that are produced by the production facility. This is how other breweries in Michigan operate "Brewpubs" under their production brewery license. If this is the case the only products that MBC can serve at either location has to be brewed by MBC and since MBC was only brewing at Webberville that would mean that in very short order their will be no beer available for sale at their Lansing location.
  7. mike409

    mike409 Savant (305) Michigan Jan 25, 2012 Verified

    Clap clap clap. There beer is beyond subpar and bad ass is a damn joke
    wesleypipes237 likes this.
  8. I did like the Celis beers. Why are you happy that many lost their jobs?
  9. jale

    jale Savant (485) Michigan Oct 17, 2009

    Having a brewery in any town is no longer a novelty. With so many options a short drive away, breweries must offer great beer good food and something unique if they are to survive.
  10. mike409

    mike409 Savant (305) Michigan Jan 25, 2012 Verified

    not happy they lost jobs but had conversation with head brewer and owner and can't say I liked how they were running stuff
  11. biga7346

    biga7346 Savant (265) Michigan Jun 19, 2010

    What's Michigan Brewing Company? Do they make beer?
  12. steebo777

    steebo777 Advocate (580) Michigan Jun 30, 2009 Verified

    I agree that they don't make good beer and really don't care about making good beer. I liked the Celis line an am bummed about lost jobs, but I haven't gone there in years.
  13. I want to buy all the clearance homebrew stuff now...anyone know if they are going to sell this?
  14. langmick

    langmick Aficionado (125) Michigan Sep 29, 2007

    It sucks for the employees and families, but they did have a long run, used to like the IPA, in fact, it got me into craft beer really...poor judgment, and the pub in Lansing had(s) HORRIBLE food. Disgustingly bad.
  15. travMI13

    travMI13 Savant (400) Michigan Jan 7, 2012 Verified

    Losing the Celis line would be a huge bummer. I thought it was great that they kept the Celis name going on wit bier. Pierre Celis deserved it, for crying out loud.

    Hopefully, they will at least sell the recipe/name to a reputable brewer who is interested in preserving it. It's fermented history.
  16. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

    This sucks...they were one of the early players in the state - despite perhaps not making "outstanding" beer, it certainly wasn't bad and they had their fans, to be sure - and it was a regular pit stop when driving across the state on I-96. While they never really did much in terms of distribution, and were typically cash poor, but I had always understood that the Mason family owned much of the property surrounding the Webberville exit...perhaps that was no longer the case.
    In recent years, they had a homebrew shop, contracting of Celis White & Bad Ass Beers, a new kitchen including wood-fired pizza over, wine, and distilling operation in partnership with Michigan State University. It's a loss for all when there's one less producer out there to give people more choices, and - as mentioned above - several dozen people who may have lost jobs.
    I hope they work something else out soon.
    GRPunk likes this.
  17. langmick

    langmick Aficionado (125) Michigan Sep 29, 2007

    I liked the gin. It made a good gt. Very drinkable.

    Creative destruction is the way of capitalism. It sucks but we benefit... That is, until Bud owns everything. :)
  18. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 8, 2011

    Well thought out response.
  19. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Savant (385) Michigan Nov 18, 2009

  20. mike409

    mike409 Savant (305) Michigan Jan 25, 2012 Verified

    thats only about the fenton location no comment oh the actual webberville brewery
  21. The guy who runs the local store with a lot of craft beer said he had heard they will be open on Monday. Anyone else hear anything?
  22. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

    I drove by there today, but nobody home...
  23. Fyi, that story about Fenton I as out of date. The Fenton DDA backed out of the deal on Thursday. Fenton is done.
    Not sure where your guy got his info, but there are serious bank, IRS, and MLCC issues that need to be handled.
    The wholesalers are worried...your retailer should be more worried. They for sure won't be open Monday...
  24. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

    Has anyone heard anything new on MBC and future plans??
  25. There was an article that the Kid Rock beer is going elsewhere - no surprise. Other than that, not much else.
  26. There is an auction coming up this month held by the current lien-holder to sell of equipment and trademarks.
    There is a rumor that the Lansing pub wants to re-brand...not sure what Bobby Mason's share of Lansing is, but the other guys supposedly want another brewer to take it over.
    Also, Arbor Brewing is/was looking at the proposed Fenton location.
  27. Do you know when the aucion is? Unfortunately I might be out of town. Some homebrew stuff might be up from Things Beer.

    The Fenton location is down to ABC and the people from Clarkston Union/Woodshop/Vincetta's. Don't know when the last round of presentations and decission is timed for.

    Edit - found the auction notice, will not be there.
  28. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

  29. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

  30. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

  31. Dcv

    Dcv Savant (260) Michigan Nov 12, 2009

    Anyone planning on going to the auction tomorrow?
  32. BoneyardBrewer

    BoneyardBrewer Savant (375) Michigan Apr 24, 2005 Verified

    Miller-Coors purchased the MBC trademarks and equipment while Christine Celis bought the Celis trademarks.
    LiquidTable likes this.
  33. Apparently true. We were watching the auction online at the brewery this am...definitely was a Wacky Wednesday!
  34. goast8127

    goast8127 Savant (435) Michigan Oct 15, 2010 Verified

    Why do you say that? Are you surprised that Miller bought in? I'm thinking they'll either sit on it or move production to Milwaukee and only produce MBC flagships. I think I'm most sad about the loss of Screamin' Pumpkin.
  35. rings

    rings Aficionado (225) Michigan Feb 4, 2011

    Too bad. Would've been nice if someone "local" had purchased the entire operation and given it new life...
  36. Unexpected...considering who held the lein on the equipment.
    Lots of rumors and speculation about what will happen now...only time will tell.
    BoneyardBrewer likes this.
  37. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (475) Michigan Sep 20, 2006 Verified

    Interesting. Didn't MBC buy equipment from Miller after they ran Celis into the ground?