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No more Bud/Miller/Coors at my local Costco

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Dchlocal, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    There is absolutely nothing, zero, zilch, that the eVIL abinbev can do to stop craft beer makers from making craft beer to sell to craft beer drinkers.
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  2. brewbetter

    brewbetter Member

    Location:
    Nauru
    It's the same people that complain about it every time too. ;)
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  3. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    Yep. Feedback loop.
  4. Providence

    Providence Member

    Location:
    Rhode Island
    I agree. We will chase the better product. But chasing is an expensive endeavor. If I want something from Hill Fartmstead, I have to drive a few hours, possibly miss work and get it. That costs a lot of money. So with limited distribution and a craft consumer that will hunt the best beer, yes craft will continue, but the hobby will become more expensive. The less financially fortunate won't have the same access. If breweries have more opportunity to expand (if they want to of course, which they may not) then others may be able to land the quality brews with more ease.
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  5. Providence

    Providence Member

    Location:
    Rhode Island
    Actually, bringing up such topics have produced a lot of good conversation with others that have a different point of view (as is the case with myself and Johnnyramirez right now). If I had taken your advice to not bring it up at all then those opportunities would have been lost.
  6. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Member

    Location:
    Nevada
    Bingo. Dialogue rules.
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  7. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    So what? Beer is a luxury item. Pure, 100% luxury. If you are a poor, you have other things to worry about than buying the latest whale from HF. If someone feels strained "chasing beer", I think that lack of good fortune is not the reason they are "less financially fortunate" - it might have something to do with having less grey matter.

    Do you believe in some sort of beer utopia where all the latest whales are on every shelf of every grocery store in America? AbInbev is the obstacle to this?
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  8. Johnnyramirez

    Johnnyramirez Member

    Location:
    California
    Chasing is expensive, but my point, which after rereading my post I completely failed to make, is that the craft consumer cares about quality. And we may turn to quality brews that we neglect because they're so available to us. Sierra Nevada and Russian River come to mind with me. Granted if you live in Mississippi, Iowa, Nebraska or any state with little to no breweries then yes I see your point, but there's at least 1 quality brewery in each state. And that's at a minimum. So the craft consumer wouldn't have to chase beer unless they're chasing it already by going to Alpine, KRBC, HF etc. As a craft drinker I really think that the worst case scenario would be I have to drink more RR and SN stuff. I could imagine alot worse things.

    (I didn't mean to offend anyone from Mississippi, Iowa, or Nebraska, I just don't know if those states have alot of quality breweries and I recall seekabrew showing really small distro there)
  9. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    People feel an entitlement to drink all the beers in the Top 250 list on BA on a regular basis, and AbInbev is stopping this somehow!!! Those bastids! Viva Beer Socialism!
  10. jacksback

    jacksback Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    And you talk about the quality of contributions from other people... :rolleyes:
  11. Providence

    Providence Member

    Location:
    Rhode Island
    I definitely don't agree with your last statement. Additionally, what I was talking about when I said the "less financially fortunate" was not low-income people. I was talking about middle class folks that have some disposable income, but not enough to drive cross-country for a beer that they used to be able to get in their hometown. Also, and I know this isn't for debate here, but there is plenty of research that shows poor folks are poor not because they have "less grey matter" but because of larger systemic failures. But I digress....

    To be clear: I am talking about most Beeradvocates when I say "less financially fortunate." People that have the money to buy a luxury item such as beer (and I totally agree that it is a luxury item) but can't spend tons of money searching out beers they used to be able to get. That's my concern with Abinbev. If they continue to grow, I may walk into my local bottle shop one day and see BCBS where Espresso Yeti is or where KBS was. Not having the means to ditch work and fly out to those breweries to get those beers I'd have little choice but to support AB if I truly wanted a Barrel Aged Stout.
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  12. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    Anyways, back to Costco. I think we need a "I hate ABI/BCBS" sticky.

    I was in Costco 4 days ago - I didn't notice a lack of BMC but I wasn't looking either. There were a shitload more BP multipacks and Stone multipacks though.
  13. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    Wow - I think if this scenario occurred you'd be winning.

    Capitalism works. If ABI takes over shelf space but the quality isn't there, another market has been created yet again and the demand will be filled. In this case quality beer.
  14. Providence

    Providence Member

    Location:
    Rhode Island
    I agree that capitalism works, but as we have seen many times, proper regulation in capitalism can be a good thing. You propose a situation where ABI takes over shelf space and the quality isn't there. I'm not concerned with that, we live in that day and age now. All things considered ABI runs most beer shelf space, but we've been able to get good craft brews nonetheless. Instead, I am concerned with what happens when they take over craft shelf space and the quality IS there. You may say, "GREAT! Tons of available awesome brews, what's wrong with that?!" to me, which is understandable. However, I would answer, yes it is great as a craft beer drinker, but as somone who doesn't want to see smaller breweries whose profits are more likely to stay in America close down, I'd say it is not a good thing.
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  15. Johnnyramirez

    Johnnyramirez Member

    Location:
    California
    I think the real winner here, if ABInBev really stops distro for smaller breweries would be FedEx and UPS. Imagine the trading forums. Pliny would be a whale
  16. Providence

    Providence Member

    Location:
    Rhode Island
    Ha ha, exactly!
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  17. Douberd

    Douberd Member

    Location:
    Netherlands
    Here is what happened once in the Netherlands. The biggest super market chain, Albert Heijn, decided that they don't make enough profit from Coca Cola, so they asked the Coke factory or distributor or whatever, to lower their prices so that AH can continue making a significant profit. When Coke denied, they kicked them out of the chain, and then said to the customers "Yeah, we are not selling Coke anymore because we couldn't ensure that you, the consumer, will get the lowest price." That's bullshit of course, they only care for their profit, which makes sense, we live in capitalism times. But don't tell us that it's for the customer.

    Edit: Maybe I am wrong about Coke and it was another brand, but you get the point.
  18. SammyJaxxxx

    SammyJaxxxx Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    That tweet is from the Beer Advocate Twitter account.
    I don't think it is just Providence and I poinin this out.
  19. gjahn123

    gjahn123 Member

    Location:
    California
    I work at Costco and no truer words have been said in this topic.
    Cheers!​
  20. LeRose

    LeRose Member

    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Costco, BJ's, Sam's Club - none of them sell beer in my area. Neither do the three Whole Foods in reasonable driving distance. The WalMart superstore does, though.

    We move a lot of product through all of these channels. Pretty much, these retail heavyweights get whatever they ask for in terms of product, package, and price. They say jump, we say how fast and how high. Done. I don't even see how a craft brewery can play in that game.
  21. StArnoldFan

    StArnoldFan Member

    Location:
    Texas
    That wouldn't be a deal even if it were fresh. Ballast Point has you thinking $5.99 is a deal cause you are so used to seeing it at $9.99. Sculpin is way overpriced. Ill buy it for $14 a six which = about .20 cents per oz but im out on $10 bombers.
  22. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Member

    Location:
    Oregon
    The Safeway near my house (SE Portland) has 4pks of Sofie and bombers of Matilda and Pere Jacques on the shelf.
  23. evilc

    evilc Member

    Location:
    California
    It's overpriced any penny over the price of Big Eye, which is a better beer.
  24. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Member

    Location:
    Oklahoma
    That is a beautiful thing right there...yessireebob.
  25. drewone

    drewone Member

    Location:
    California
    As of a couple a days ago, Marina Del Rey had 3 different bottles of Bruton
  26. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Member

    Location:
    California
    I was at my local Costco today and there was no BMC. Unfortunately, they also do not carry any interesting craft beer options like other Costco locations do.
  27. leezy

    leezy Member

    Location:
    Minnesota
    I checked the Costco nearest to me in Maple Grove,Minnesota today and there were multiple skids of Miller Lite, Mich Lite, Stella etc. No sign of any notice or sale about a BMC closeout
    So I'm curious if this is a regional thing or it's a slow wave of change that started in the OPs area
  28. jwjon1

    jwjon1 Member

    Location:
    Delaware
    It's Costco. You pay 15% markup for name brands. It's not a matter of buying generic and getting what you pay for.

    In the case of "best by", I can walk into 10 bottle stores today and find at least 9 of them having bottles past best by dates. Even worse, 50+% of the craft beers surveyed won't even having obvious bottle dates (best by, or preferred, bottled on) at all.

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