Yes, the manager at Stubs (Jon) used to promote the place very well, & it became a gathering point for us geeks when the scene was a lot smaller years ago. There were people who vowed never to go again after Jon was let go, so that's likely part of it. Another bit might be the newer folks don't even realize it's a good beer bar. It would certainly be easy to be fooled, being a U of M bar & all. And the parking does suck; I've been parked-in in that postage-stamp sized lot before.