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Question about 750ml bottle shapes

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Derranged, Jan 5, 2013.

  1. Derranged

    Derranged Advocate (555) New York Mar 7, 2010

    Why are 750ml beer bottles mostly only shaped like wine bottles like this:


    But never like this:


    Oxidation, carbonation, etc? Or are there bottles shaped like that latter? Not that it matters much but I was just curious.
  2. Boilerfood

    Boilerfood Savant (445) Indiana Jun 5, 2012

    My first thought would be that pouring out of #2 would get you nothing but a big glass of foam due to the bottleneck.
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  3. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Advocate (590) Minnesota Oct 4, 2012 Beer Trader

    Victory 750's come in the latter. No foaming issues that I've seen. St. B Xmas is in the second style too.
  4. boddhitree

    boddhitree Advocate (650) Germany Apr 13, 2008

    Here's a 0.75L bottle from Germany. It's from Faust Brauerei and the bottle is normal.

    Here's a 1L bottle, again from Germany. These look like normal beer bottles, don't they? This one is from Pax Bräu.
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

    In the US, the "champagne" style bottle was probably the early, first choice for US craft brewers, because they were available from US glass companies and were manufactured to be able to hold carbonated beverages. (They even took a crown cap - used in "méthode champenoise").

    The earliest example I can think of were first bottled vintages of Old Foghorn that came in dark green champagne "splits" (187 ml or 6.3 oz. on OF's label).

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  6. Yeah I was going to make the connection between champagne style bottles being the immediate choice for carbonated beverages, but I have no idea if there is a science behind this, nor what it would be if there were one.

    Although I could make a couple educated guesses. First that the bottle top is acclimated for the cork/cage seal. Also the comment earlier about the more rounded bottle contours being better suited for pouring a carbonated drink seems to have weight.
  7. gatornation

    gatornation Poobah (1,285) Minnesota Apr 18, 2007 Beer Trader

    Most of Jolly Pumpkin bottles are very close to #2pic
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  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

    Primarily, just that the bottle was manufactured to have thicker glass walls and that concave base for strength to contain high levels of carbonation. IIRC, Garrett Oliver once stated it was originally designed for beer.
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  9. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poobah (1,420) Wyoming Sep 14, 2002 Beer Trader

    The old 1L bottles from Grand Teton were like #2 except the neck was shorter.

  10. imfrommichigan

    imfrommichigan Advocate (515) Michigan Jul 12, 2012 Beer Trader

    In the OP's post.. if they were shaped like the one you were inquiring about it would most definitely mess with the carbonation upon pouring. There's a big time "glug" when you pour wine due to the straight neck (possibly for oxidation on pouring??). If you look at the other either examples that others posted here, they have that bubble in the bottom of the neck aiding a more smooth pour, preventing the "glug."
  11. Derranged

    Derranged Advocate (555) New York Mar 7, 2010

    You're like a beer encyclopedia. We should appoint you as chief of the forum.
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  12. codysjb

    codysjb Savant (470) Prince Edward Island (Canada) Jun 16, 2010 Beer Trader

    Our Market Research Shows That Tickers Like Really Specific Bottle Types So We Made this Bottle to Have the Absolute Roundest Shape Ever