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Scientists Discover "Miracle Molecule" in Beer That May Make You Stronger, Skinnier and Healthier

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by Todd, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,440) Colorado Aug 23, 1996 Staff Member

    Full-story: http://www.medicaldaily.com/news/20120607/10212/nicotinamide-riboside-miracle-molecule-obesity.htm

    Video: "Nicotinamide riboside, a hidden vitamin with a high potential"

     
  2. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan Champion (815) New York Dec 13, 2009

    hmmm...seems that this molecule has the opposite effect on me.
     
  3. FosterJM

    FosterJM Champion (825) California Nov 16, 2009

    I used to be over 300 pounds, dropped it all down to 216 I cant really run anymore due to arthritis in the knee. But I drink a ton of beer and havent gained much back. Maybe 10-15 lbs. Must be something in the beer I would say!

    Cheers!
     
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  4. bum732

    bum732 Advocate (630) Lesotho Feb 18, 2008

    I was thinking the same, when i think of "stronger, skinnier and healthier", beers drinkers are the last thing that comes to mind.
     
  5. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,440) Colorado Aug 23, 1996 Staff Member

    The findings are obviously not talking about merely drinking beer. They discuss a specific compound in beer (and other foods) that could potentially be synthesized or extracted and then be taken at specific dosage amounts/concentrations in order to gain benefits.
     
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  6. bum732

    bum732 Advocate (630) Lesotho Feb 18, 2008

    Oh i know, i just thought the whole "stronger, skinnier and healthier" line was comical. This kind of reminds me when they discovered resveratrol in red wine.
     
  7. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,040) Washington Sep 18, 2010

    I'll have to view this video when I'm not @ work. They certainly chose an interesting name for the vitamin. The root word "nicotin" doesn't conjure up many healthy images.
     
  8. bum732

    bum732 Advocate (630) Lesotho Feb 18, 2008

    Well, that's the name of the chemical based on its structure, so i don't think they "chose" it.
     
  9. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,440) Colorado Aug 23, 1996 Staff Member

    I believe it's a reference to niacin/nicotinic acid (a vitamin of the B-complex), which does.
     
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  10. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,040) Washington Sep 18, 2010

    You guys are talking to a total science ignoramus, so thanks for the info. Learned something new today. Will pass on half-baked explanation of beer's health benefits to the wife.
     
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  11. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (835) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    Interesting. Not sure if it has anything to do with the molecule but milk is an excellent appetite suppressant if you're trying to keep cravings at bay. Beer, not so much.

    Also, I like the "hmm, yes. I am a scientist." moment at 1:17 with the centrifuge.
     
  12. I always thought that losing weight meant burning more calories than you consumed was the key to losing weight. Damn that college education.
     
  13. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (835) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    Well this is a little different. The molecule also reportedly increased muscular performance, which is something consuming fewer calories doesn't help with at all.
     
  14. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,040) Washington Sep 18, 2010

    So there really is a connection between beer consumption and bench press? Someone needs to notify Overlord.
     
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  15. I just stick with the traditional methodology here. Consuming less calories than you burn will never fail.
     
  16. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Indiana Jan 18, 2010

    Believing in a drug based off a mouse study is like trading for a beer based off the locals' ratings. ;)

    Always an interesting read though.
     
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  17. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (835) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    I get the impression you didn't pay attention to the video.
     
  18. Agold

    Agold Advocate (510) Pennsylvania Mar 13, 2010

    I think I saw this infomercial on public-access at 4:38 AM.
     
  19. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (835) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    The funny part is that all started because he was responding to a guy who mentioned how much he benched totally out of the blue. It had nothing to do with the question in the op.
     
  20. ADD is a curse.

    as is being logical and critical.
     
  21. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,040) Washington Sep 18, 2010

    Oh. So kind of like this thread.
     
  22. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (835) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    You're right we need to get back on topic. We were actually discussing Nicotinamide riboside the other day at Crossfit while doing super sets of 10 consecutive muscle-ups in between 20 calorie rows & handstand push-ups.
     
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  23. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,040) Washington Sep 18, 2010

    What were you drinking?
     
  24. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (835) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    Me and my Puerto Rican girlfriend were drinking RR sours. I wonder how much Nocotinamide Riboside is in sour beers vs IPA's.
     
  25. cavedave

    cavedave Champion (940) New York Mar 12, 2009

    Funny, in late 70's fitness nutrition teacher and author Adelle Davis was a champion of consuming brewers yeast powders. I was on a regimen that definitely included nicotinamide riboside in its formula, an awful tasting powder called Pep Up.
     
  26. syu3003

    syu3003 Aficionado (205) Michigan May 4, 2011

    I am pretty sure that the "miracle molecule" is not Nicotinamide riboside, but is in fact EtOH.
     
  27. "However, researchers said that the molecule is extremely small and difficult to reproduce.
    'At the moment, we can't even measure its concentration in milk,' he warned. 'So it's impossible to know how much you would have to drink to be able to observe its effects.'"

    I would like to get a hold of the actual research report and find out the details. Because all I get from this is,

    A) We're not mice.

    B) Even if this were some "miracle molecule" if you have to consume more than one or two beers/day to get enough Nicotinamide riboside to have an effect on your body, the extra calories/alcohol would offset any potential health and weight loss benefits.

    That being said, there's certainly enough research out there that two beers or glasses of wine per day for a male has potential health benefits.
     
  28. midworken

    midworken Aficionado (215) Nebraska Sep 20, 2009

    Eh, wouldn't give it much weight, but interesting nonetheless. It will probably be like how soybeans were the miracle plant, or when vitamin ccould cure any, now it seems to be pomegranites. Nothing beats good ole fashion healthy eating and exercise.
     
  29. Kind of interesting, kind of wierd.
     
  30. midworken

    midworken Aficionado (215) Nebraska Sep 20, 2009

    Yeah, something like 800 pounds of red grapes per day are required to get enough resveratrol to get its anti cancer benefits, or 75 liters of red wine.
     
  31. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Advocate (540) Vermont Mar 10, 2006

    I am confused... my calendar does not say April 1.
     
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  32. It's all the grappling you do.
     
  33. You beat me to it!
     
  34. acevenom

    acevenom Advocate (545) Louisiana Oct 7, 2011

    This is pretty interesting. We often forget that beer was a significant part of diets until recently. Maybe there's something to this.
     
  35. FosterJM

    FosterJM Champion (825) California Nov 16, 2009

    That was a one time thing. He had it coming. He talked to much smack for a little guy. The napoleon disease in him needed to be smacked out.

    Cheers!
     
  36. Ungertaker

    Ungertaker Savant (460) Minnesota Apr 30, 2010

    Alcohol? ;) Lol

    On a serious note, I think this compound is just like any other. If the proper amount is consumed, the benefits will show. If too much is taken, it could end up not doing anything.
     
  37. Overlord

    Overlord Initiate (0) California Jun 28, 2007

    Benchpress=beer consumption and appreciation ability. It's basically a direct line correlation. This is known.
     
  38. Vaison

    Vaison Aficionado (190) Delaware Aug 27, 2010

    They must have edited out the commercial that followed this story, which was sponsored by InBev.
     

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