Shipping costs...?!?!

Discussion in 'Beer Trading Talk & Help' started by lilnicky068, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. lilnicky068

    lilnicky068 Savant (360) Kentucky Jan 8, 2010

    Been here for a while now and thinking about getting into the trading game but shipping prices are RIDICULOUS. What's everybody doing as far as shipping? I mean, small trades, paying $16 to ship a $10 4-pack just seems crazy to me. Am I just being a cheapskate? What's the best way to go about this?
  2. FEUO

    FEUO Initiate (0) Ontario (Canada) Jul 24, 2012

    Shippin ain't easy.
  3. MordorMongo

    MordorMongo Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2009

    Trading is for fools, there are just a lot of them around these parts.
  4. kmello69

    kmello69 Advocate (635) Texas Nov 27, 2011 Verified

    Don't trade if you can't afford the shipping. It's a damn expensive hobby
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  5. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poobah (1,430) California Mar 18, 2010 Verified

    Don't trade beer.
  6. I was wondering the same thing. None if it is technically legal. How are people shipping this without spending twice as much on shipping than the beer or getting caught. Im sure you can package it well but what if it leaks and it has ur return address on it. Anyone with a real answer?
  7. juliusseizure

    juliusseizure Savant (430) New York Feb 11, 2009

    Get a job where you travel a lot.
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  8. Agold

    Agold Advocate (510) Pennsylvania Mar 13, 2010

    Thats why if you are going to do a locals trade you should do a big ass box. If you are not willing to pay what you paid for your beer plus shipping for the bottles you are getting, don't do it.
  9. Steimie

    Steimie Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 7, 2012

    If UPS or FedEx catch you sending beer, they'll more than likely send it back to you. Then you just drink it.
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  10. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Illinois Nov 23, 2010

    Only trade for walls. Send no extras.
  11. founder26

    founder26 Savant (460) Michigan Sep 9, 2009

    Make sure to sign up for a shipping account through fedex or ups, cuts down cost a lot
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  12. Vanlingleipa

    Vanlingleipa Savant (475) California May 19, 2011 Verified

    Only do in-person trades
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  13. Walls?
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  14. stxSS07

    stxSS07 Initiate (0) Illinois Nov 23, 2010

    The "e" is silent...and invisible.
  15. Beer trading adds up quickly, and shipping is very expensive.

    Given the cost of shipping, nobody really trades only $10 worth of beer at a time. Even a small trade is going to run you $50 - $20-$25 worth of beer, $5-$10 worth of extras, $15-$20 shipping/packaging - that's about as small as it reasonably gets.

    $50-$100 boxes of beer are probably about average for most people to justify the $20+ shipping costs. Even when you see something on ISO:FT that looks like a small 1-for-1 trade, it usually gets expanded.
  16. lilnicky068

    lilnicky068 Savant (360) Kentucky Jan 8, 2010

    Cool, I'll expect the shipping costs then. Just didn't know if there was something I was missing/ a cheaper way to do it.
  17. BeerThursdays

    BeerThursdays Advocate (595) Delaware Feb 28, 2010 Verified

    Create a fedex account. Prices are slightly less with the account, rather than just going to a store to ship something.
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  18. lilnicky068

    lilnicky068 Savant (360) Kentucky Jan 8, 2010

    I will definitely look into this.
  19. gpawned

    gpawned Initiate (0) Illinois Jun 5, 2012

    Aren't you a little young to be trading beer? You were bottled less than 21 hours ago.

    Edit: That or you were bottled 10 months in the future...I can't tell...but I'm intrigued.
  20. Kwaz

    Kwaz Aficionado (165) Illinois Mar 31, 2012

    Also keep in mind the first few trades are the only cumbersome ones in terms of packaging. At the beginning i ran out and bought boxes, bubble wrap and styro-peanuts.

    At this point I have 8 boxes with varying types of packing material in my basement from trades I've received in the past, basically ready to pack-up-and-go. Once you've got a few under your belt it becomes really easy to re-use most people's packaging material with a touch of supplementation from your original bubble wrap / packing peanut stash.
  21. Never heard someone use cumbersome in a sentence. You must be a 7 Mary Three fan. lol
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  22. Kwaz

    Kwaz Aficionado (165) Illinois Mar 31, 2012

    Never heard of 7 Mary Three but I'm surprised to hear you say that. You're from Kentucky, right?

    "All these BCS variants on shelves down here in Kentucky are quite cumbersome"
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  23. lvoutlawjlh

    lvoutlawjlh Savant (360) Nebraska Mar 15, 2012 Verified

    ISO: beer from the future
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  24. Its a band they have a song called cumbersome, and yea Im from KY whats does that have to do with anything?
  25. vurt

    vurt Advocate (655) Oregon Apr 11, 2004 Verified

    I believe we call that a "pre-trade" around here. Happens all the time. :)
  26. MarcatGSB

    MarcatGSB Initiate (0) Michigan Jan 8, 2011

    "Too black or too white, too wrong or too right..." Great song! Thanks for reminding me of that.

    I tend to do only big trades, because you're right, paying 1.5 times the cost of a four pack to send it, does NOT make sense. And one thing I've learned in a few years of trading, very few times do you get back better beers than you send out. Sure they're new to you, exciting, maybe they are your personal whales, but alot of the times I say "Hmm, not as good as X, that I sent out".
  27. For some reason UPS tacks on an additional fee to send a package to me...
    I guess I live in the freaking boonies or something...
  28. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    I just shipped a regular partner a $10 Knuckle Sandwich for $12.50 shipping =) I wanted him to get it fresh and had no time to go to the store!
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  29. Replace the second "L" with an "H", add an "E" and rearrange the letters to spell "whales"
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  30. BearsOnAcid

    BearsOnAcid Advocate (735) Massachusetts Mar 17, 2009 Verified

    Its not about the 4 pack you trade for, it's about the extras. They are worth the shipping cost and more. Think of all the old forgotten six pack stragglers you could receive.
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  31. I look at it this way: it would cost me less to have a big trade than to order something online. Retail shipping charges can be exorbitant and I can ship something across country for less.
  32. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poobah (1,345) Wyoming Sep 14, 2002 Verified

    The higher charges are for shipping materials, and adult sig required, which is currently $4 and sure to go up again.
  33. Definitely. Recycling packing materials, no adult signature, FedEx account discounts I equate to much more affordable personal shipping as opposed to retail.
  34. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Ohio Apr 5, 2011

    I always turn down the option of Adult Sig. required (they don't really ask me anymore) but I think I'll use it to send a surprise box to Pschul4 though.
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  35. Ravenacht

    Ravenacht Advocate (535) Florida Aug 10, 2012 Verified

    Someone did not get their BA super secret decoder ring....tsk tsk ;)
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  36. ncaudle

    ncaudle Advocate (665) Virginia May 28, 2010 Verified

    you can further reduce shipping costs by shipping to a business instead of a residence.
    I have all incoming boxes go to my office...
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  37. Anyone have an average weight of a single 750 ml bottle? I am trying to figure out how much 8 bottles would weight in at in an basic wine shipper box
  38. I keep drinking beers but never find one of these at the bottom of the bottle
  39. csano

    csano Initiate (0) Washington Sep 21, 2010

    2-3lbs, depending on the bottle.
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  40. AlexFields

    AlexFields Advocate (645) Tennessee Dec 13, 2009 Verified

    Twelve bottle wine shippers filled with bombers seem to be 25-30 pounds usually.