Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by bennetj17, Mar 8, 2013.
does the foam-like effect go away?
i can't easily exchange something I bought an 8-hour car ride away. My state (TX) doesn't get Fantome distribution. So while to you it might not be a big deal, me paying $17 for a bottle full of undrinkable slime seems like a pretty big deal to me.
Did a bottle of Pissenlit touch you as a child? Maybe assaulted your significant other? Settle down, bruh.
It's everyone's choice if they want to roll the dice. Next time I see someone getting beaten over the head with a bottle of Hiver in a bottle shop, I'll know who the culprit is.
That's A-OK, because, according to Dany "stilling very good taste"...
Best of luck to anyone who can create inconsistent product yet still drive enough hype to get fanboys to buy it. When the hell did it become acceptable for beer to become a roll of the dice? People wouldn't give a damn about Heady or Pliny if it was only good half the time. That's a joke and anyone who defends it is setting a dangerous precedent for these businesses in the future.
I have probably had 20-30 bottles of Fantome in my life and I would have only minor complains about three of them. One of the "Boo" bottles I opened had that now infamous "smoky" taste, one bottle of the regular Saisons tasted very, very orange-juicy and left me with no buzz at all, and one Printemps had a slight, almost "band aidish" taste to it.
Every single other bottle, probably 10 Saisons, a few Hiver/Printemps, Chocolat, Magic Ghost, Boo, Pissenlit, Sour, Noel and Dark White were all perfect. In fact, as I've said before, most of the Saison bottles and the Magic Ghost I had may have been the best beers I've ever tasted.
I don't know if I've just been lucky to not run into any sludge bottles OR if this is a problem, but not as widespread as people act like it is. I think it's the latter...there are some bad bottles out there, but I would bet overall it's 5% of the available supply.
That all said, I do agree that for the price it's not fair for even 5% to be an acceptable number.
You've either been lucky, or I've been very unlucky. Three of the last six or seven I've bought were drainpours. Different issues with different beers too. The diacetyl off-flavors in one were so bad I almost gagged. diacetyl in one, terrible DMS in one, and modly off-flavors in the third. Done with Fantome.
Repeat after me as you dispose of a gross, overpriced product: "Stellar imaginings of the brewer's art." Its supposed to be craft beer, not crap beer.
3/30 is 10% no?
OOh oh !!! not too much excitation about, !!! yes it was a technical problem with the mixer .. and some smoking taste was coming ... .. yes too, i have had some yeast problems ....
the last problem is this ... when it's arriving here ... ( not so much time ..really ! ..) i take out these bottles from the brew .. but yo are far !! and so, after possible some monthes .. it's arriving .. so what can i do ..i'm not on place !! be sure i very very! take more time to have good beers .. Craft , not crap like LAD say !.. sorry for all this ...
.. no it was just a few Humor, John !! .. i know very well it's not the case .. but .. also .. it's not very sympathical for me to get all this " Famous ! History" on a so "big People web site" .. .. are we all so perfect in this world ?... only a simple message in private .. and my reaction would be the same !!( ps: sorry for my Humble Poor English !! )
.. some Brand Good News from ( Possibly !) ..others "Good" (well, .. not so good, but drinkable !..) Ft beers there ?..
Keep up the good work Dany!
I was wondering when Dany would show up
It sounds like he's saying he has had some problems that he knows about (smoke taste from the mixer, yeast that pooped out) and he has recalled those bottles from the home market, but he has no ability to recall bottles shipped to the US. If so that kinda sucks.
some of you are really angry people. open the doors, it's summer. get some fresh air. maybe even take a beer along to enjoy at your local park or something.
the owners and operators of
Stillwater Artisanal Ales
Perennial Artisan Ales
among others, might take exception to you saying brewing and beer are not "art". hell, it's right there in the name. though they're probably just idiots for thinking of their craft as art so their opinions probably don't matter.
I just tried Noel for the first time and while it wasn't my thing and was a bit funky, I'm glad I didn't drop that cash on a bottle of shampoo like in that video. Ugh!
Miller is the champagne of beers. It says so right on the label.
Brewing is an Art that should be replicated by Science.
My name is not John? I'm a fellow Walloon, you can send me a private message in French because I can't understand any of this, sorry.
Please let us know what you hear!
I'm definitely in the Fantome fanboy camp--although I've only had a few bottles and never experienced any off/bad/quality control issues I've read and heard enough through the rumor mill to know I can never be quite sure what to expect when I plunk my $15-20 down for a bottle. As the best of Fantome ranks among the "beers that blew my mind" it won't stop me. But I will think twice.
On a slightly different note, I see elNopalero said he pays 15 to 20 dollars per bottle, is that a typical price range for Fantome in the US? Just curious.
I usually pick mine up for between 7.50 and 8.50 a bottle(euros of course.)
right Geo! tx !
Ok OK ! ;-)
look, i'll put up with a lot but i WILL NOT stand by while you bad mouth High Life. not on my watch.
Jealous! €7.50 is approximately $10, which would definitely fit my budget!
As with most imports there's a bit of a surcharge from shipping and whatnot. Lowest priced Fantome bottles I've seen out here (SF Bay Area) are at Berkeley Bowl, $14.95 if I recall correctly. Typically I'll see them for $16-18 when they hit the shelves.
Thank you for buying our slimy,overpriced product. Just as a blind pig eventually finds an acorn, we are confident that eventually you'll find one of our beers that will be least semi drinkable.
As for how long that slime bottle must age before it reaches its peak of perfection...keep monitoring that bottle. It will probably be ready for consumption when hell freezes over.
Meanwhile, please continue to give us rave reviews in your rating system. After all, we didn't "intend" to foist so much garbage on the public. Did we? Our intent is to ship beer that people can actually injest. But as you know shit happens.
As a token of our depreciation we are sending you a T shirt from our Fantome shit hits the Fan Club. Please wear it proudly as a symbol of your unbridled optimism and cast iron stomach.
Ralf Barfalotsis (QC Mgr)
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