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Silva Stout & Sleepin’ with Shaggy Release Party

Discussion in 'Pacific' started by JustXBeer, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. KaslD

    KaslD Initiate (0) California Nov 25, 2012

    what?!? How much is this?!?
  2. Sebowski

    Sebowski Savant (360) California Jan 11, 2010

    And by the time my vegetarian buddy made it through the line they were out of tortillas.
  3. Padre games are in the $55 range including the ticket to the game. Charger games are in the $110 range including ticket.
  4. KaslD

    KaslD Initiate (0) California Nov 25, 2012

    Damn thats awesome!
  5. So where can I buy these tix? For future reference
  6. Xul

    Xul Advocate (590) California May 18, 2008

    I wasn't there and will admit that up front...but how the hell do you run out of tortillas? Considering how ridiculously cheap they are (especially relative to the cost of the event), wouldn't whoever is responsible for the catering just bring an extra few dozen? There are various levels of failure as it pertains to brewery food events, but running out of something as basic as tortillas seems like it goes beyond "a decision you as the consumer disagree with" and zooms right into "complete inability to plan an event."
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  7. pinkgrenade

    pinkgrenade Savant (380) California Aug 19, 2011 Verified

    haha yeah figures. i ate a burrito in my rush from work to the release knowing i was going to be hungry and pissed and gave my food to my friend instead
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  8. KaslD

    KaslD Initiate (0) California Nov 25, 2012

    I agree fully. Once I saw how much they had I knew they would run out.
  9. They weren't normal flat tortillas. They were more like a homemade thin pancake made from corn meal about 5" in diameter.
  10. KaslD

    KaslD Initiate (0) California Nov 25, 2012

    Id say 3".....hahahaha
  11. cocoapuph

    cocoapuph Savant (460) California Mar 4, 2011 Verified

    I thought u guys were gonna follow us to taco bell after to order tortillas ;)

    Anyways the bread pudding was pretty tasty.
  12. Sebowski

    Sebowski Savant (360) California Jan 11, 2010

    I did hear good things about that Taco Bell....
  13. Xul

    Xul Advocate (590) California May 18, 2008

    Corn meal is cheap, and it's still inexcusable. If you feel like you got your money's worth, then great, but giving breweries a pass on complete failures to plan ahead and/or contract with someone who's competent at event planning doesn't bode well for the future of these types of events.
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  14. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Advocate (565) California Jul 10, 2009 Verified

    I'm going to assume those who went are going to justify the extra $45 as a convenience charge for being able to purchase multiple 4-packs. Thing is, that was never announced and GF failed to deliver on what was advertised. I'm really surprised they're going this route. I got the sense from them that their focus was going to be on beer and they would leave food/dining to other breweries.
  15. I think the food pairing is dumb. I wouldn't even mind if they charged $50 for the 4 tasters and the opportunity to buy the beer. Food served on small plates in a big warehouse without anyplace to sit down doesn't do much for me.
    ehammond1 and JustXBeer like this.
  16. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Savant (410) California Apr 5, 2006

    Breweries continue to do overpriced "dinners" with bottle releases and continually fail in the execution and continually sell out yet people want to blame the brewery. Err ok.
  17. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Advocate (565) California Jul 10, 2009 Verified

    Sounds like a chicken and egg dilemma to me. Blame can be placed on both sides.
  18. tyrsis

    tyrsis Savant (460) California Mar 13, 2009 Verified

    This is what kills me. I desperately wanted Silva Stout. But I refuse to encourage this business model of stupid ass events in order to purchase some beer.

    It's the reason I was so disappointed that it sold out. People are willing to throw their money away in order to buy rare beer. Now, they're only going to keep on doing it.
    MiScusi, ehammond1, Xul and 2 others like this.
  19. Xul

    Xul Advocate (590) California May 18, 2008

    I agree with you completely, but if people are comfortable paying a large premium just for access to the beer, the failure on the food side isn't even really an issue. It's been discussed quite a bit here that a lot of rare beer is, relatively speaking, underpriced - this is a manifestation of that theory, in that people will shell out money for the "dinner" just to get the beer. I would rather the brewery just charge a premium for the beer than hide behind a poorly executed dinner, but the end result is roughly the same.
  20. I know that everybody has their own preferences when it comes to beer tastes, but it seems to be most prominent with the strong stouts. When I had the Silva on tap during SD Beer Week (they had some left over a day after the Green Flash event), I was not blown away. I really dug the smoothness, but it was a bit too much of a bourbon explosion for me. I can see why somebody that likes the bourbon taste would be into it, though.
  21. Somebody at Green Flash, maybe THE somebody, does not seem to be enamored with the ticket system.
    ehammond1 likes this.
  22. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Savant (280) California Feb 17, 2010 Verified

    I agree with all the comments about food being part of an event lame and all that, however it's just part of going to an event these days. You pay if you think the beer is worth it, you don't if you prefer not to. Otherwise this event sounds like it was a good one, and the extra 4 packs really made it worth it. I'll add that the first event (SDBW 2011) was even more frustrating given that the desert course (I can't even remember what it was) incorporated Silva Stout. Talk about wasting a great beer. They could have used Double Stout, no one would have known the difference. So I definitely consider this year's event an improvement. Unfortunately I couldn't make it.
  23. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    They used Silva Stout in the Venison dish this year.
  24. Brewzer1010

    Brewzer1010 Savant (280) California Feb 17, 2010 Verified

    That's a shame. Well the extra 4 packs probably made it worth it for most.
  25. mikedashg

    mikedashg Savant (285) California Dec 19, 2008 Verified

    I just walked into the brewery and bought a case of Silva Stout last year. Was delicious! haha. I think I shared/traded half of it. Such a good beer, ready to drink barrel aged beer (since they blend it to perfection). I'd take it over KBS any day. Hope to see some sleepin with shaggy around. :/
    ehammond1 likes this.
  26. grrrah

    grrrah Savant (430) California Sep 21, 2009 Verified

    Is it bad form to go sporting the visiting team's gear?
  27. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    GF distributed this to local stores in SD last week. Love the "you must come to our party and buy our shitty food if you want this beer - it won't be distributed" bait and switch!

  28. That is BS. What is it selling for per bottle? If it is +/- $5 per bottle, we paid $65 for a street taco and a piece of dessert.
  29. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) California Jan 27, 2012

    $5.99 - $7.99 so far that I have seen. Green Flash was at several places Friday promoting it - it's an official distribution.

    Sure, we paid $5.00 per bottle, but paid more in the end considering the extra $45 for the event.
  30. ficklenicholas

    ficklenicholas Savant (350) California Jul 26, 2011 Verified

    I will never, EVER go to another green flash event again.
    GottaTickemAll and domtronzero like this.
  31. SageO

    SageO Savant (455) California Jul 13, 2010 Verified

    I almost never complain about the way breweries handle bottle releases (in fact I think I was defending GF earlier in this thread), yet once I saw bottles hitting shelves at that pricepoint I felt pretty jipped. Bad move on GF's part.
  32. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Advocate (565) California Jul 10, 2009 Verified

    They'll keep doing it if they can get away with it. Been saying this all along, but just give me the bottles. All that other stuff is optional.
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  33. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Poobah (1,030) California Nov 29, 2006 Verified

    This is really annoying. Pretty much an upfront lie on the part of Green Flash to sell tickets to that garbage event.
    sbuysse likes this.
  34. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Poobah (1,030) California Nov 29, 2006 Verified

    That's irrelevant and not a debate that needs to be revisited at this moment. The issue at hand is Green Flash lying to consumers by saying that the only way to get Silva and Shaggy was to go to this $65 event and then turning around weeks later and selling it to stores. I think many people, including me, would have skipped the event if we knew the bottles would be available around town.
  35. Just to play devil's advocate here (this is not what I believe - just doing the debate club thing), perhaps they decided to bottle up more after the event took place, or they made the decision to distribute to local stores after the event. In that case, they didn't really lie, but you'd think that they would offer an explanation.

    On a possibly related note, they've been a lot less "active" in social media as of late, it seems.
  36. grilledsquid

    grilledsquid Advocate (565) California Jul 10, 2009 Verified

    Like you said, GF, from the get go, was giving the impression that this was going to be an exclusive release with a $45 cover charge. The up sell seemed dishonest to me all along. It's because of this willingness to acquire beer at all costs that breweries seem confident about tacking on additional charges. Personally, that doesn't jive with me so even though I want the beer, I'll skip a release altogether.
    HopHead84 likes this.
  37. mrkrispy

    mrkrispy Savant (410) California Apr 5, 2006

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
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  38. AndresR

    AndresR Savant (350) California Jul 19, 2009 Verified

    That's how they get ya.

    I feel vindicated now by choosing to skip this BS exclusive release. That, and GF has never thrown an event worth attending at least not at the price point they charge.
    nanobrew likes this.
  39. domtronzero

    domtronzero Initiate (0) California Aug 18, 2007

    The bottles I've seen in the store had bottling dates of December 2012. I'm pretty sure it was the same run of bottles that was released at the party.
  40. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Poobah (1,030) California Nov 29, 2006 Verified

    I guess if you ended up leaving with 24 bottles (4 bottles included with $64.29 ticket + 5 additional 4 packs available at $20/4 pack) then the cost per bottle was $6.85. Still, not bad and it was simple to get the bottles. The dishonesty is annoying but if I remind myself of the math and the ability to buy a lot more bottles than I would have otherwise been able to get, it's not so bad.
    cocoapuph likes this.