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Style-defining beers?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by coocookuhchoo, Oct 6, 2012.

  1. What beers do you think of as setting the standard for their style? It doesn't need to be your favorite of the style, but rather the one that most purely represents the style. Clearly this is pretty subjective, so it can just be for your own personal style barometer.

    I'll start by saying that I think of Stone IPA as the definition of a West coast IPA
     
  2. Old Rasputin as a Russian Imperial Stout would be mine.
     
  3. gtermi

    gtermi Champion (750) Texas Apr 21, 2010

    Zombie Dust Pale Ale. This to me is second to none in its style.
     
  4. Westmalle Tripel
     
  5. aasher

    aasher Champion (910) Indiana Jan 27, 2010

    Weihenstephaner Hefeweisbier, best Hefe ever.
     
  6. aasher

    aasher Champion (910) Indiana Jan 27, 2010

    But by BJCP guidelines not really a true pale, am I correct? Or am I confusing that with Apha King?
     
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  7. gtermi

    gtermi Champion (750) Texas Apr 21, 2010

    I have never really checked that out, but it does not seem to fall under the pale ale criteria I have learned from home brewing. They call it a pale ale, but I have always thought of it more as an IPA. I will still call it a Pale Ale till they change it though.
     
  8. Aecht Schlenkerla Ur Bock for a Rauchbier.
     
  9. aasher

    aasher Champion (910) Indiana Jan 27, 2010

    Fantome Saison, it's their best beer IMO and the original! It ruins all other Saisons.
     
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  10. Duvel - BSPA
    Chimay Blue - BSDA
    Saison Dupont - Saison
    Pliny the Elder - DIPA
    Bigfoot - American Barleywine
    Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - American Pale Ale
    Westmalle Tripel -Tripel
    Hoegaarden - Witbier
    Fuller's ESB - ESB
    JW Lee's Harvest Ale - English Barleywine
    Paulaner Salvator - Dopplebock
    Anchor Steam - Steam Beer
    Deschutes Obsidian - American Stout
     
  11. Off the top of my head...

    Leipziger Gose
    Saison Dupont
    Weihenstephaner Hefe
    J.W. Lee's Vintage Harvest Ale
    Rodenbach
    Goudenband
    Ayinger Celebrator Doppelbock
    Schneider Aventinus
    Rochefort (all of them)
    Samuel Smith's Nut Brown
    Traquair House Ale
    New Glarus Raspberry Tart
     
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  12. gtermi

    gtermi Champion (750) Texas Apr 21, 2010

    There are a few beers I would change, but most are dead on!
     
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  13. Yes. And even though SNPA is dull compared to, say, Zombie Dust, but it defined the style and was the starting point from all of the modern, hop-assertive IPAs.
     
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  14. try upright seven before you make such claims :p it's godtier.
     
  15. DanK4

    DanK4 Aficionado (240) Maine Jan 17, 2012

    Maybe Hoegaarden back before I had started drinking wits (which wasn't that long ago), but I feel like its extremely sub-par to Allagash White, St. Bernardus Wit, Bell's Winter White, etc. Maybe I'm missing something but the last few times I had it, Hoegaarden just tasted... crappy. Anyone else feel the same way?
     
  16. best belgian strong - delirium tremens
     
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  17. Any category Alesmith brews in. Every beer they brew is an excellent representation of that class.
     
  18. aasher

    aasher Champion (910) Indiana Jan 27, 2010

    I've had it, good, but definitely no Fantome Saison
     
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  19. I love Black IPAs and Sublimely Self Righteous defines the style to me.
     
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  20. Green Flash West Coast IPA, just can't remember the style.........
     
  21. Anyone have any thoughts on an East coast IPA? DFH 60? Mine might be Heavy Seas Loose Cannon, but that's probably my local bias...
     
  22. patto1ro

    patto1ro Advocate (500) Netherlands Apr 26, 2004

    Surely it should be Courage Russian Stout. That was the original, after all.
     
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  23. gtermi

    gtermi Champion (750) Texas Apr 21, 2010

    I also love Deschutes Hop in the Dark, but thats not year round so SSR gets my vote too.
     
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  24. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Savant (410) Arizona Dec 14, 2011

    Sublimely Self Righteous is the best Black IPA in my opinion
    Russian River Supplication is the best definition of sour/American wild
    FW Parabola clinches the imperial stout category for me
    West Coast IPA is hard for me to say but there's two local breweries that clinch that to me. San Tan Hopshock or Dragoon IPA.
    Pliny is in there too but I'd say that fits as the best DIPA
     
  25. That's like saying a Rottweiler isn't a dog.
    What does the PA in IPA stand for? Pale Ale is simply beer brewed predominately from pale malt.It includes many so-called styles.
    The only beer which actually defines a style is Fuller's ESB , the one which started it all. But ESB isn't a style at all anyway, just a bitter at the stronger end of the spectrum.
     
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  26. No it isn't. Almost every beer is brewed predominately from pale malt. Pale Ale is a specific tradition of beer brewing originating in Britain. It includes pale ale, India pale ale, bitter, best bitter, ESB and double IPA, but not mild ale, strong ale, porter or any originally foreign styles.
     
  27. That's where the name originated, to distinguish it from brews made with brown or dark malt. It's incorrect to call foreign styles (unless modelled on British brewing) as ales because these are specific to the UK.There is a common misconception that ales are sinply top fermented beers; this breaks down on detailed examination.
     
  28. Westmalle Tripel
    Duvel (Belgian Strong Pale Ale)
    Thomas Hardy's Ale (English Barley Wine - even though it's no longer available)
     
  29. aasher

    aasher Champion (910) Indiana Jan 27, 2010

    I consider Thomas Hardy an Old Ale myself.
     
  30. RyanMM

    RyanMM Aficionado (220) Michigan Mar 12, 2009

    A lot of good choices. I'd add:

    Two-Hearted - Midwest IPA
    Edmund Fitzgerald - Porter
    Fourth Dementia - Old Ale
     
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  31. BrettMcCal23

    BrettMcCal23 Zealot (75) Minnesota Nov 23, 2010

    Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a standard pale ale to me
     
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  32. BSDA - Gulden Draak
    American Porter - Edmund Fitzgerald
    English Porter - Old Engine Oil/Taddy Porter
    Old Ale - HOTD Adam
    Dopplebock - Korbinian
    German Pilsener - Konig
     
  33. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Advocate (595) Colorado Jan 20, 2012

    Saison dupont
    St peters cream stout
    Deschutes mirror pond
    Llagunitas lil sumpin sumpin
    St lupulin
    Petrus oud bruin
    Abt 12
    Funkwerks white
    EDIT
    Modus hoperandi
     
  34. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Minnesota Apr 1, 2011

    I'd have to go with Surly SYX for dry-hopped American strong red ales aged in 6 types of wood.
     
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  35. Rogue Voodoo Maple Bacon Donut - Target practice
     
  36. Edmund Fitzgerald is the quintessential porter. Hands down still the best.
    American Oktoberfest is Thirsty Dog Barktoberfest, German is still Hacker-Pschorr.

    Im opening one here soon. #800 on untappd.
     
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  37. Dennoman

    Dennoman Advocate (505) Belgium Aug 20, 2011

    Aecht Schlenkerla Märzen for a Märzen/Oktoberfest. Duh!
     
  38. Alpha King for Pale Ales
    Gumballhead for wheats
     
  39. kingofhop

    kingofhop Advocate (555) Oklahoma May 9, 2010

    Pale Ale- Sam's Boston Ale hard to beat
    American Wheat- Boulevard
    IPA- price and availability Torpedo
    DIPA- Pliny the Elder. I've never had anything that quite compares.
    Stout. Hard choice. FBS and Raspy are superb.
    Pils- Urquell, Noble and Summerfest.
     
  40. Mosstrooper

    Mosstrooper Savant (415) California Jul 17, 2008

    Hefeweizen: Paulaner, Franziskaner, Weihenstephaner
    Saison: Saison DuPont
    Czech Pilsner: Staropramen, Pilsner Urquell
    RIS: Old Rasputin
    Tripel: Chimay White
    Belgian Pale Ale: Orval
    American Pale Ale: Sierra Nevada
     

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