Texas cellar question

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by icetrauma, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. icetrauma

    icetrauma Savant (495) Texas Sep 7, 2004

    How do the Texas BA's store their beer? I'm in Houston and keep it in my beer fridge around 55. What say you?
     
  2. Azzy

    Azzy Savant (300) Texas Jul 16, 2012

    I keep em in a different house around 65
     
  3. Dajtai007

    Dajtai007 Savant (435) Texas Jan 15, 2009

    Wine storage facility in Houston
     
  4. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (515) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    Mini fridge (50-55F)
    Main Fridge (40-45)
    Box in the closet (65-70)
     
  5. blatherbeard

    blatherbeard Savant (430) Texas Sep 30, 2007

    closet as dark as i can , whatver temp it is.

    then again i think ive only got 2 bottles now LOL
     
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  6. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (650) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    Some out in the open on shelving (70F), some in a beer fridge (55F), some in my food fridge (40F)

    I need a bigger beer fridge though. A lot of my stuff isn't refridgerated. Currently only beers >$15 or if the style demands it (IPAs, low ABV beer) are allowed in. Apartment living doesn't allow it right now though.
     
  7. Azzy

    Azzy Savant (300) Texas Jul 16, 2012

    Better start drinking, at that rate you might have more beer than you can drink lol
     
  8. gtermi

    gtermi Champion (795) Texas Apr 21, 2010 Subscriber

    I have 3 fridges with temp controllers. A mini fridge, regular size fridge and an ice chest (for my homebrew in kegs)
     
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  9. bccocx

    bccocx Champion (810) Texas Jan 13, 2007 Verified

    I don't really have much room, so I keep them in my closet in a box. It's not ideal, but it will do for now. It's usually at 65-70F.
     
  10. HopAG

    HopAG Savant (495) Texas Sep 22, 2012

    Huge box in the darkest part of the house. Moving to a house now so this will become so much easier! My IPA's are cold though
     
  11. UHCougar12

    UHCougar12 Advocate (530) Texas Feb 21, 2011

    I use a drink cooler. Only problem is it stays at like 45°, and I don't just put beer in it so I don't want to buy a thermostat.
     
  12. Ford

    Ford Advocate (560) Texas Sep 8, 2012 Verified Subscriber

    bottom of my closet under my hung up shirts.... it's very dark in there.... I have a few I keep in the fridge... whatever I plan on drinking next.

    I'd like to put an old small fridge out in the garage.. but I'm worried with how hot it is here during the summer... how much would that add to an electric bill a month...
     
  13. DanzBorin

    DanzBorin Initiate (0) Texas Apr 11, 2012

    All over the place...
     
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  14. kmello69

    kmello69 Advocate (635) Texas Nov 27, 2011 Verified

    21 cubic foot garage fridge set on the lowest setting carries about 150 bottles right now. I've had it a year, and havent found it to make any significant impact on the electric bill, despite the garage getting pretty warm in the summer. Another 40-50 bottles of stuff that doesnt need to be in there (barleywines, old ales, big RIS, etc.) was just waxed and is tucked away in a dark place in the house.

    Not ideal, but it works when you can't actually have a "cellar". I used to live in Maine a while back, and had a cellar that was dirt floors and stone walls - ah, to dream.
     
  15. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (515) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    200 bottles huh?....Party @ Ken's house.
     
  16. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (650) Texas Jun 30, 2010

    After seeing some of the stashes folks have on BA... 200 is small.

    I probably have 50 large formats right now. Need to drink more, lol.
     
  17. cfh64

    cfh64 Champion (750) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    Ditto, plus shelves in a closet. I'm really trying to "drink it down" somewhat though. Like alot of people, it almost became more of a trophy collection (pretty much for myself to look it) than practical. I would ideally like to keep it down to just the dedicated beer fridge, wine cooler and a box or two.
     
  18. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (515) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    oh, you're one of them "size matters" people :D
     
  19. blatherbeard

    blatherbeard Savant (430) Texas Sep 30, 2007

    Im down for that. When, what time? itll have to be tomorrow or later though, bday party for the wife tonight.

    ;)
     
  20. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (515) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    the box worries me though.
     
  21. omnigrits

    omnigrits Savant (345) Texas Jun 1, 2006

    Most of mine are in a pantry that's on a north-facing wall. The temperature doesn't fluctuate wildly but in the summer I can't afford to keep the a/c at 70° 24/7 so it gets a little warmer in there than I'd like, but at least the sun isn't beating down on that wall during the day. I didn't originally plan on keeping anything more than a year or two until I got a dedicated fridge with a temp control, but you know how things happen and suddenly I've got three and four year old bottles on my hands and no space left in the pantry.

    I took seven bottles to tasting last night - all were from 2010, all were in good condition and all got marked at four (out of five) or better, except for the Anchor Christmas which wasn't off but just wasn't great, so I guess it's working okay, for now.

    The only beer I've had a problem with is Lagunitas Undercover Shutdown. I held onto maybe six bottles from 2011 and started drinking them three or four months ago. They were all off. And we didn't get any last year, or if we did I missed it.
     
  22. jbeezification

    jbeezification Savant (425) Texas Jun 6, 2012

    I have a wine fridge that is just about as full as it can possibly get set to 55-60. I also have a pantry with a broken light fixture that has a shelf dedicated to bombers and corked bottles that I can't lay down. I would say it stays around 60 in there and colder in the winter which is fine. I only open the door to the pantry about 2-3 times a week and close it when I grab whatever it was I need.

    Porters and pale ales (IPAs, APAs, etc...) I keep in my regular fridge because I usually drink those within a week of bringing home.
     
  23. rainerschuhsler

    rainerschuhsler Savant (395) Texas May 17, 2012 Verified

    I don't understand all you people that store beer in a closet. Do you keep the A/C in your house running at 70° 24/7?
     
  24. cfh64

    cfh64 Champion (750) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    I know what ya mean, having that many beers without a "proper" cellar is a pain in the ass to keep up with. The ones in the boxes are the beers that I think aren't as temp sensitive and mainly beers I've had before. The beers in the fridge are typically beers I haven't had so I can somewhat preserve the freshness and they are always on the "to drink list". Guezes are starting to take over the wine fridge because since they can go the distance, I want them aged at the more ideal temp.

    Lol, its all somewhat complicated and has become kind of a pain in the ass which is why I'm trying to drink it down. I don't want to have to keep up with a spreadsheet either. I swear I've spent hours rotating shit around and trying to keep up with everything.

    I've also become more in the mindset that fresh is better, most of the time. I started a "cellar" to age some beers and for variety so I would have a beer for every occasion. With better and better distro in TX, I don't need to have that many beers on hand. I can run down the street and get alot of what I want, fresh.
     
  25. cfh64

    cfh64 Champion (750) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    At least 70 and not just for the beer, I like it cold :)
     
  26. rainerschuhsler

    rainerschuhsler Savant (395) Texas May 17, 2012 Verified

    I bought a nice big temperature-controlled wine cooler used on Craigslist for $100 and keep it set on 55°.
     
  27. rainerschuhsler

    rainerschuhsler Savant (395) Texas May 17, 2012 Verified

    Even when you're not home, in the middle of the summer? Damn, I'm scared of what your electric bill looks like.
     
  28. kmello69

    kmello69 Advocate (635) Texas Nov 27, 2011 Verified

    Definitely true for me too. Its getting to be like a second job to keep spreadsheet updated, to keep track of what needs to be consumed when, etc. I started "collecting" more by accident - I just buy more than I drink, so over the past few years my numbers have just climbed and climbed. Luckily I found an awesome fridge on Craigslist for $50, but thats only allowed me to keep adding more.

    New Years resolution was to drink it down, and try to get it down to the point that everything I have fits in the fridge.

    We need to organize more local tasting get-togethers, I think. My wife doesnt drink, and I can't drink all these 750s by myself.
     
  29. cfh64

    cfh64 Champion (750) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    My wife may sneak it up to 72 when I'm not home but I'm home most of the time. I moved into a newly constructed house a few years ago. That radiant barrier shit is the bomb. It cost less to heat and cool this house than my old one which was 1,000 sq feet less. Granted, my old one really was old, built in the 20's. Old windows, pier and beam, drafty, etc.

    No doubt I would save money though.
     
  30. cfh64

    cfh64 Champion (750) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    Yup, I know what ya mean. Hell, I typically only drink one day a week...more during football season and I can hardly put a debt in my cellar btwn trades and new beers I pick up here. I used to save my "special" beers for "special" occasions but realized many if them would taste better now so I'm just opening them on any 'ole regular drinking day. Extras are fun but it becomes expensive and then I have that many more beers to drink. Lol, it's a brutal world we live in .

    I came damn close to buying a big ass stainless steel commercial fridge so I could put about 60% of my beers in there but decided against it.

    Off topic kind of...an example of a beer that I keep in the closet is Saison Brett. I know some people don't lik aged SB but I live the funkiness and tartness it develope. The Brett may actually "work" more efficiently at warmer temps so I now have a rotation going so I'm always drinking last years version.
     
  31. mattisloco

    mattisloco Savant (475) Texas Feb 13, 2007

    Warm aging does wonders to that beer. I had 2010 one warm aged, one temp controlled. Warm was by far better, not even close on the funky deliciousness.
     
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  32. I have beer everywhere. There are very few places in the house not hiding beer. All of my homebrew is kept at room temperature unless it's made it's way into the fridge waiting for imminent consumption. I have bought beer in the fridge as well waiting for imminent consumption but it's just whatever I think I will drink in the next week/few weeks.

    The rest of my bought beer is spread out in a few places. I think I have around 40-50 bottles. Most of it is in the back of the pantry. Some is in an ice chest (no ice, it was just a convenient place to store it) and I have a 3L bottle of Chimay blue in my closet (again, just placed for convenience). It's not kept as cool as it should be. Definitely not ideal during the summer. My house runs between 65-80 over the course of the year. I don't have a tremendous selection of beer to justify spending money on beer storage. Most of the beer I have is not beer I fear aging at room temperature, either.
     
  33. Agreed. Brett doesn't like cooler temperatures and unlike most yeast, research suggests its viability is diminished by cold storage (fridge temps). I guess if you wanted to arrest further brett character cellar or fridge temps would be a better option.

    I have a bottle of four year old Saison Brett I'm thinking about opening this summer along with a fresh bottle.
     
  34. jbeezification

    jbeezification Savant (425) Texas Jun 6, 2012

    I usually keep it at 70 but not constantly. You would be surprised how cool it can be in a dark closet.
     
  35. Walt

    Walt Initiate (0) Texas Aug 6, 2006

    3rd bedroom with 4 industrial shelving units, insulation on the windows, blackout curtains, and a standalone portable AC unit...keeps the room at 57 or so. My electric bill sucks.
     
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  36. UHCougar12

    UHCougar12 Advocate (530) Texas Feb 21, 2011

    Mine is an actually drink specific fridge that holds 150-200(which I don't have that many), but I turned off all my lights and fans and went.out of.town for a week and found it cost about $.80/day
     
  37. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (515) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    Wow. That's dedication.
     
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  38. cfh64

    cfh64 Champion (750) Texas Aug 16, 2005

    Let me know what ya think. I did a 3 year (kinda) vertical last year with an '09 (batch 2 I believe), '11, and the fresh '12. While I still like it fresh, I just prefer the brettiness of the older ones. If I remember correctly, there was a huge difference between the '12 and older ones but not nears as much difference between the '09 and '11. I'll do a 4 year vert this year to reconfirm or prove myself wrong.

    On a side note, I'm not a pineapple fan but grilled pineapple and Saison Brett (aged or fresh) is f'in fantastic and may be one of my all time favorite food/beer pairings.
     
  39. DanzBorin

    DanzBorin Initiate (0) Texas Apr 11, 2012

    I'm getting dangerously close to 400. About half of that is bombers.

    I keep trying to drink more and overcontribut, but it's not working!
     
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  40. Clonies720

    Clonies720 Initiate (0) Texas Oct 24, 2012

    Mini fridge @ 50-55F. I use it for most of the rarest bottles I have.
    large Chest freezer temp-controlled @ 55F holds about 80-100 bottles
    Kegerator for dispensing my homebrew and what not @ 46F. Holds some IPAs and stuff that should be kept a little cooler.

    I'm also storing a few beers in the closet around 65-70F to compare how beer ages warm vs. "proper cellaring".

    Regular fridge for chilling things that require cold cold. And jester kings that recommend 24 hrs refridgeration prior to opening, which is necessary for funk metal lest it explode again all over my counter.