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Texas Whales

Discussion in 'US - Southwest' started by jbeezification, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. SpeedwayJim

    SpeedwayJim Advocate (700) New York Jun 19, 2009

    Apparently we DON'T know all the real whales. None of those beers you listed in the first sentence is even remotely rare.

    We all know true walez can only be found overseas. :D
     
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  2. ehsteve

    ehsteve Aficionado (225) Texas Jan 13, 2009

    Whiskey Rodeo is probably the closest thing we've had.

    I'm so sad about this. I showed up the day after release, like an idiot, hoping to get a bottle, and was told they'd sold out roughly four minutes after release.
     
  3. Azzy

    Azzy Savant (300) Texas Jul 16, 2012

    The first and only Azzy I ever pulled
     
  4. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Texas Oct 8, 2008


    They actually sold out 15 minutes before the release because they promised bottles to a dining room and patio full of patrons who had been sitting around an hour before hand eating/drinking.
     
  5. jbeezification

    jbeezification Savant (405) Texas Jun 6, 2012

    Thats not what I heard... wooo
     
  6. wolffman17

    wolffman17 Savant (405) Texas Jul 14, 2005

    Over it. I'm loving what the locals are putting out, old standbys and new offerings alike...regardless of "status" and perceived value. Drink up. Stop analyzing.
     
  7. blatherbeard

    blatherbeard Savant (420) Texas Sep 30, 2007

    IMO if KtG is considered a whale, then 512's WADPP is definitely a whale. Ive had KtG and it paled in comparison to 512 by far.

    And thats from an original NE person. Hell, their normal pecan porter was better than the 3 samples ive had of KtG.

    But then again, im Mr. Lucky and none of my bottles of 512 had any problems.
     
  8. dirtylou

    dirtylou Champion (785) Washington May 12, 2005

    obligatory "who gives a sh1t about whales"
     
  9. What about 512 Bourbon Barrel Pecan Porter or Free tail Lamuerta. ??
     
  10. UHCougar12

    UHCougar12 Savant (465) Texas Feb 21, 2011

    What problems did this last batch see? Ive had one in my fridge since release, and planned on drinkibg it this winter
     
  11. DonDirkA

    DonDirkA Savant (400) Arizona Dec 14, 2011

    Pshhh, Shiner Cheer, son!
     
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  12. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Advocate (570) Texas Nov 20, 2011

    We drank a 2004 Dark Lord a few months ago. It was too old and past it's prime. The top half of the bottle was alright, but the bottom was gritty and chunky. Literally made a "plop" sound when the last bit was poured. I wouldn't call it a "white wale" anymore. I wouldn't trade anything for it these days.
     
  13. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Advocate (570) Texas Nov 20, 2011

    It sat on the floor at Gabriels in SA up until about a week and a half ago. They had tons of it. Lots of Bonnie still there.
     
  14. BeanBone

    BeanBone Savant (445) Texas Oct 12, 2006

    Warm-aged 2011 Sailing Santa always gets people frothing with envy.
     
  15. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Advocate (505) Texas Apr 13, 2010

    KtG won't be brewed again.

    And those bottles were terrible compared to tap. Seriously, just bad.
     
  16. MagillaGriller

    MagillaGriller Savant (315) Aug 20, 2012

    Hmmmn!?!
     
  17. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Savant (425) Texas Mar 12, 2012

    I see a certain TX beer with a 9/1 W/G ratio.

    If you have a batch 1 of that bottle you could pull something fun towards the bottom of that list.
     
  18. ext1rpate

    ext1rpate Savant (265) Texas Feb 21, 2011

    Someone opened a bottle of WBADPP at a tasting about a month ago and it was infected. Head was 5x as high as the beer itself and it was very light, no body on it at all. I was disappointed as it was the first time I'd tried it.
     
  19. starkmarvelo

    starkmarvelo Advocate (500) Nevada Jan 20, 2010

    White Chocolate seemed like a "Whale" to me, but I got it pretty easily for a Whiskey Rodeo. The way I figure it, I have a beer you really want to drink, you have a bottle I really want to drink, let's trade. I don't care about rarity and I don't care about bottle price.
     
  20. icetrauma

    icetrauma Savant (495) Texas Sep 7, 2004

    Please stop making sense. To many people want to rape ya for a rare/whale bottle. But, some folks are willing to give it up.
     
  21. Azzy

    Azzy Savant (300) Texas Jul 16, 2012

    I traded a bunch of St.Arnolds Stuff for a Fou Foune and a Black Damnation to a guy in Brussels. It all depends on what people can't or can get and want
     
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  22. Daemose

    Daemose Savant (450) Texas Oct 3, 2011

    Nice troll Azzy.
     
  23. miikezombie

    miikezombie Savant (345) Texas Aug 13, 2010

    White Chocolate started off with a 6 bottle allocation. (Reserve Society only) Plus we got 1 bottle for free. Finally, The Bruery put it back on sale to RS members with no bottle limit until it sold out. Basically you could end up with a boat load of it if you had the cash.

    My point is, White Chocolate isn't a wale. It's being released again next year and the allocation will probably double.
     
  24. fmccormi

    fmccormi Champion (760) New York Oct 24, 2010

    Just curious—do you want Texas to produce a bunch of whales?

    If so, why? Is it like a regional status thing?
     
  25. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Texas Oct 8, 2008

    I can't even land a 4-pack of BCBS anymore with brewery only releases (i.e. Freetail) from Texas, so yea, I 'd like it if our beers were just a little more hyped.
     
  26. Daemose

    Daemose Savant (450) Texas Oct 3, 2011

    No one wants to trade for Texas beer.
     
  27. raffy313

    raffy313 Savant (405) Texas Dec 15, 2010

    *fixed
     
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  28. fmccormi

    fmccormi Champion (760) New York Oct 24, 2010

    So, you want your local beer to be more buzzed about, so that you can trade for beer you can't buy in your area?
     
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  29. champ103

    champ103 Champion (870) Texas Sep 3, 2007

    I don't get it either. There is a bunch of great beer in Texas that not a lot of people know or care about. So what? I will take my cask Ellissa, or Pecan Porter, or anything Live Oak, or Real Ale, or... and be happy. I guess the other people here can sulk that they can't trade for "rare" anything :rolleyes:
     
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  30. mhenson42

    mhenson42 Advocate (570) Texas Nov 20, 2011

    Lol... Didn't you know that you can't buy at your local bottle shop tastes better than beer you can. ;)
     
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  31. fmccormi

    fmccormi Champion (760) New York Oct 24, 2010

    That's what I'm saying! Trust me, I'm dying to get some PtE and feel ridiculously fortunate to have been to the Alchemist Cannery and Hill Farmstead in person (they really are that good, if anyone's considering visiting), and I'm constantly asking when such-and-such brewery will be available where I am, but for me I think regionalism and local scenes is the future of beer advocacy.

    I have nothing against trading, and in fact I'd really like to get into it (a little) when I'm not poor and moving around so much, but I think it's awesome that Texas has such a unique beer scene. I say good for you guys, though I do totally understand it must be frustrating as shit if you're really, really into trading. Just don't take the local stuff for granted!
     
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  32. fmccormi

    fmccormi Champion (760) New York Oct 24, 2010

    I don't know what's gotten into me, no idea how I could've forgotten that! It's like, what, rule #2 of Beer Advocacy? The Grass is Always Greener.
     
  33. DanzBorin

    DanzBorin Initiate (0) Texas Apr 11, 2012

    Whale status is moot. Too many people to craft beer are starting to make finding regular releases a pain to find.

    They hear a release is good and make it a pain to pick up. I think it started with Divine and got worse with Jester King.

    Soon anything thats limited release will only be had by people who pray on DT Specs and trading it out of state or hoarding it.
     
  34. champ103

    champ103 Champion (870) Texas Sep 3, 2007

    Also, here is some perspective:

    Goose Island started in the late 80's. Their first batch of Bourbon County was made in 93 or 94. So basically it took them 20 years to build the following and the distribution they have now for these releases. Lets take say, Karback. They made a Bourbon barrel aged porter in the first year they opened, and it is not bottled yet. You can't really compare those. Jester King hypes the bejesus out of everything, and how old are they? 3 years or so. Southern Star stared in 08, and is just getting round to releasing BB Buried Hatched in cans. I really don't care about whales, but holly cow, outside of Saint Arnold and Real Ale the Texas beer seen is still in its infancy.
     
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  35. miikezombie

    miikezombie Savant (345) Texas Aug 13, 2010

    It really isn't that hard to land stuff in Texas. People just need realistic expectations. If you have solid trade partners and tasting partners you will eventually try everything you want. Just need patience, which most people on this site lack.
     
  36. champ103

    champ103 Champion (870) Texas Sep 3, 2007

    That is true. I stopped trading a few years ago, but never found it difficult to land something of interest. Then again, I never went "whale hunting," what ever people mean by that. (I wounder how many people have actually read Moby Dick, I digress:D)
     
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  37. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Savant (425) Texas Mar 12, 2012

    If only everyone had your perspective. Fortunately we can follow your's and a few others lead.
     
  38. FUNKPhD

    FUNKPhD Advocate (505) Texas Apr 13, 2010

    I got a BA Church on a Hill when it came out as an extra. It's amazing what you can get through good relations...
     
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  39. xpimptastikx

    xpimptastikx Initiate (0) Texas Oct 8, 2008

    This thread is terrible. Why does every thread with the word "whale" in it have to turn into a circlejerk?
     
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  40. Azzy

    Azzy Savant (300) Texas Jul 16, 2012

    I tend to troll alot but no, I have a partner in Belgium. I send him Texas beer and he sends me Beer from Belgium.
     
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