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The Averagely Perfect American IPA Project - Poll #12- Flavor/Aroma Hop Nationalities

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Jan 28, 2013.


Limit Flavor and Aroma Hops to American Varieties only?

Poll closed Jan 30, 2013.
  1. Yes

  2. No

  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Champion (855) Pennsylvania Jul 12, 2009 Verified

    Now begins the long, arduous task of hops selection. This will take a while. First, let's see if the crowd wants to narrow the field for Flavor/Aroma hops by specifying American varieties only. By American varieties, I mean hops that are cultivated mainly in North America and are not generally associated with another continent. For example, US Saaz would not be an American variety for our purposes. Some may wonder why I'm even asking this question, but with Nelson Sauvin and perhaps a few other foreign hops finding their way into American IPAs, I thought we'd better make sure.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you don't know what this thread is about, please see this thread...

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please Beer Mail me.
    Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand (not about how you would have asked the question differently). I will not address methodology questions in the forum any more. I'm not going to risk having a thread deleted due to a flame war. If this irks you, please consider not playing.

    The Averagely Perfect American IPA Recipe so far...
    5 Gallons
    Target ABV: 6.5%
    Target OG: 1.062
    Target FG: 1.012
    Apparent Attenuation: 81%
    Recommended Mash Temp: 151F

    Grain Bill:
    Two-Row Brewer's Malt (92%)
    Crystal 40 (5%)
    Carapils (3%)

    Wyeast 1056/WLP001/US-05
  2. I am loving the AU/NZ varieites now layered in with some "C" hops or Amarillo. One of the best IPAs I have made to date was a combination of US and English varities. Given both of those experiences I would like to see a blend of multiple countries here.
  3. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Champion (810) Texas May 21, 2010

    I vote for American hops because they'll either already be had, or be easier to get, or cheeper. Or something. At least we can chant USA! USA! USA! once we've made our beer. :rolleyes:
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  4. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Advocate (585) Vermont Mar 10, 2006

    I said no because Galaxy should be in the mix...
  5. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Savant (445) Pennsylvania Jan 4, 2012 Verified

    I said yes... The Australian and New Zealand hop varieties are great but this beer was made what it is today by America... USA, USA, USA !!!!! (said with a thumb up, in Jim Duggin's voice, with a 2x4 on my shoulder, and an American flag wrestler bikini on.) :mad:
  6. The APA IPA = American Hops!

    USA! USA! USA!
  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Champion (810) Texas May 21, 2010

    Catchy, isn't it? :cool:
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Advocate (615) Colorado Jan 20, 2012

    The averagely AMERICAN IPA should be hopped with.... anarctic hops?
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Savant (445) Virginia Nov 10, 2010 Subscriber

    The very idea of an 'Averagely Perfect American IPA' without perfectly average American hops would be...on average...the perfect oxymoron.
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Champion (750) Wisconsin Aug 13, 2005 Verified

    Trying to figure out Herbmeowing's riddle. I voted yes... I mean no...nutz. Duped by an oxymoron.
  11. late on the thread but I'll vote for the USA.
  12. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (425) New York Dec 12, 2011

    thats one vote to single hop with cascades.
  13. All American for me. Incidentally I'll be "dry feathering" with bald eagle wings and sustaining my boil with the exhaust of a 427 big block
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  14. brewsader

    brewsader Savant (290) New York Dec 7, 2012 Verified

    just out of curiosity, (ballpark) how many people are actually brewing this thing?
  15. yinzer

    yinzer Savant (395) Pennsylvania Nov 24, 2006

    My guess is take the number of chronic posters x 3.

    There are a lot of people who lurk. You can see that

    Maybe that should be the last question. I will at some point and I'll try to get a sample to VikeMan.
  16. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Advocate (535) Minnesota May 11, 2007

    I went with the norm on this one...'murica
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Champion (750) Wisconsin Aug 13, 2005 Verified

    I expect I'll try the next time I brew an IPA. That probably won't be for several months though, so I won't be among the first to have brewed it. Assuming there are no obvious flaws in the recipe, newbies who ask about IPA recipes might get directed to it. It would be easy enough to develop an extract version. Maybe that's why Vikeman was asking about differences in light and extra light extracts a few days ago?

    OP: "I'm a newbie looking for a good IPA recipe for my first homebrew"
    Response1: "Start here: <url for final recipe, extract version>"
    Response 2: "Yeah, but use some New Zealand hops, dude!"
    Resonse 3: "And cut the carapils. That stuffs a waste."
    brewsader likes this.
  18. I'm a part time poster (of questions usually, not answers :)) and a full time lurker. I find I can learn more from you guys' banter than from answers to some dumb question I may post. Not sure how that figures into your calculation

    I've done a lot of recipe conversions from AG to extract or AG to partial mash so maybe I'll throw in my two cents at that time
  19. kjyost

    kjyost Champion (800) Manitoba (Canada) May 4, 2008 Verified Subscriber


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  20. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Champion (810) Texas May 21, 2010

    Methinks this one's a wrap. :rolleyes:
  21. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (465) Louisiana Dec 3, 2005

    Ha! My first reaction was, "Damn, how many BAers have Dr. Dre or Chronic posters? Is it that many?" Then I read further and got the context.
  22. oh my god +1000
  23. Wow...you are really about this American IPA, ha? So much that you brought back hacksaw's legacy and visions of my childhood to illustrate! But the wrestler bikini? I am a bit disturbed...but cheers regardless! Haha.
  24. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Savant (445) Pennsylvania Jan 4, 2012 Verified

    Jim likes citrusy hops.
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  25. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (845) Washington Apr 27, 2006

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  27. VikeMan

    VikeMan Champion (855) Pennsylvania Jul 12, 2009 Verified

    American Varieties it is. Next up: IBUs, which I really meant to do before this one.
  28. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Champion (810) Texas May 21, 2010

    Hurry! I can't wait!!!!! :cool:
  29. pweis909

    pweis909 Champion (750) Wisconsin Aug 13, 2005 Verified

    Wait! If it turns out under 60 IBUS, I want Australian hops!;)
  30. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Savant (475) Utah May 2, 2006

    I will be one of the lurkers giving it a try, although I suspect that I may end up substituting hops, depending upon where the voting ends up versus what I have on hand (or can perhaps readily obtain).
  31. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Advocate (615) Colorado Jan 20, 2012

    I will also be brewing this, and substituting my own choice of grains and hops, I will however be sticking with 1056. Now that I am thinking about it I will have a big cake of 1272 in my fermenter I could pitch onto... ;)
  32. Can we vote on using "essence of eagles" to up the 'Merica factor?

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  33. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Savant (485) Nevada Dec 4, 2008 Verified

    Is that a coat hanger or fast shutter speed? : )
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  34. brewsader

    brewsader Savant (290) New York Dec 7, 2012 Verified

    silly string.
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