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Total Wine To Add Growler Stations To 20 Stores By Year-End

Discussion in 'Beer News' started by OMsweetOM, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. BeerLover99

    BeerLover99 Advocate (745) Illinois Dec 13, 2008

    Thanks for sharing the news. Hope NJ is one of those proud few. I was shocked when recent issue of NJ Monthly had craft beer on the cover and how it is "exploding" in the Garden State...LOL. Yeah, when you have nothing, something is BIG. ;)
    (P.S. I am not from Jersey, Chicago native/Great Lakes/Midwestern proud!)
  2. Smitty1988

    Smitty1988 Savant (340) Arizona Oct 16, 2012

    Very true, I am all for drinking Local, but if I drink Local, I usually do it on site, I go to total wine for the stuff I cant find in local bars.
  3. ncaudle

    ncaudle Advocate (630) Virginia May 28, 2010

    I only know of 1 off the top of my head and, admittedly, it's a convenience type store with a gas station, just west of Richmond in Goochland
  4. mcaulifww

    mcaulifww Initiate (0) Virginia Aug 18, 2011

    what gas station my parents live near there. good selection and prices?
  5. RobH

    RobH Savant (435) Maryland Sep 23, 2006

    I think what's being referred to is this place http://www.awshuckscountrystores.com/

    Since they have a kitchen and serve hot food, they qualify under VA law with the appropriate license.

    This is much more than just a gas station.
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  6. Nooooooo. That TW in Norwalk has a great selection, I was hoping to get some growler action.
  7. SaCkErZ9

    SaCkErZ9 Champion (870) Florida Feb 27, 2005

    In NC stores cannot sell growlers, only brewpubs.
  8. ncaudle

    ncaudle Advocate (630) Virginia May 28, 2010

    I thought it was stores can not fill growlers. Sams sells pre-filled growlers filled at breweries.
  9. Legally, on the Federal level, that's not a "growler" - it's simply a big bottle of beer.
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  10. The Buy Rite on Rt 22 in Bound Brook , does growler fills so it must be legal.
  11. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poobah (1,245) Wyoming Sep 14, 2002

    Yeah, like what Climax used to do and Rogue does with their Dead Guy Ale. The latter still doesn't get a "glowing" review from me.;)
  12. I imagine the Virginia side of the DC area BAs area rejoicing. The Whole Foods locations have been doing this for a while now, with some that have full bars! I imagine this will happen there (here!).
  13. raveskdr

    raveskdr Savant (400) Virginia Oct 10, 2009

    See the above posts, in regards to the requirements for stores to have growler fills in VA. Unless they try and skirt the rule, or the law changes (lol VA ABC)...
  14. Yeah NJ does growlers at some places but not many have the license and I believe they aren't issuing new ones so if total wine wants it they will have to pay a hefty sum here in NJ

    And to whom poked fun at NJ's craft scene, sure we don't have a lot of top rated breweries here in NJ but our distro is tops, and living close to Philly doesn't hurt, we have it pretty good here for beer : )
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  15. Got it. I stand corrected. I didn't read all the posts beforehand.
  16. glaze3

    glaze3 Aficionado (140) Nevada Jul 29, 2010

    Boca Park?
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  17. TicoCali

    TicoCali Savant (460) California Jul 25, 2010

    Are we f****ed ?
  18. California? Yes.
  19. TW must be responding to Joe Canal's in NJ that seems to be attracting more of the beer enthusiasts with their growler filling station and inventory of the premium bottled stuff. Total Wine has all the NJ distributor standard craft beer offerings and probably sells a lot more cases of wine.
  20. Hunterdon Distributors is a relly big reason for the craft beer movement in NJ. Kane and Carton Breweries are awesome. If and when they start bottling more of the flagships they will become rapidy popular in the surrounding area.
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  21. Rizalini

    Rizalini Savant (355) Nevada Jan 20, 2011

    That's the one I usually go to, but both Boca Park & Henderson locations are installing growler stations!
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  22. NYRfan4ever

    NYRfan4ever Savant (285) New Jersey Oct 30, 2009

    I was told by an employee here at my TW in NJ that they are expanding my local store and as soon as the law passes they'll be having a growler station and tripling their beer selection. Cannot wait!!
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  23. What "new law" would that be? Haven't heard anything and the recently passed update to the state small brewery/brewpub laws didn't have any changes for stores IIRC. Maybe a local law- there are only 4 Total Wine stores in NJ AFAIK.

    NJ liquor stores with what the industry casually refers to as a "Broad C" license (now technically called "32 – Plenary Retail Consumption License with Broad Package Privileges"- which is actually an on- and off-premise license) can sell growlers, but the number of licenses is based on the town population and controlled by the municipality. Currently, as I understand it, for a store to change, they'd have to buy an existing license - if one is available.
  24. Went to a Kane tap takeover last week.
    Cloverleaf Tavern had 15 Kane offerings on tap for the day. I think their stuff is excellent. Loved all the Stouts. Unfortunately some of the highly regarded IPAs and such were gone already when we got there.
    I hope they do bottle some time in the near future.
  25. LeRose

    LeRose Advocate (605) Massachusetts Nov 24, 2011

    Wow.major jealous here. We frequent three Whole Foods and none of them have beer. New BJ Warehouse does but the selection is junk. Only grocer with beer I know of is a Wegmans and that is an hour and a half ride. By what I see, Total Wines will spread. Used to be one near us, now there are three in two states.
  26. NC: Stores can sell growlers, but growlers can only be refilled at the same brewery as the label.
  27. Jeffreysan

    Jeffreysan Savant (400) Maryland Apr 12, 2013

    Maybe Wegmans in NoVa will start doing this, which would be awesome. Even though they're a grocery store, they have a kitchen, serve hot food, and unlike in Maryland are also permitted to sell beer (and wine).
  28. OMsweetOM

    OMsweetOM Savant (340) California Feb 1, 2011

  29. BeastLU

    BeastLU Advocate (550) Virginia Dec 20, 2012

    A Whole Foods in Fairfax, VA:

    they have tap handles in three locations and about 20 different taps

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  30. Which Whole Foods do you shop at? Massachusetts law allows for a single grocery store chain to sell alcohol in three locations throughout the state. Hadley, MA, River St. Cambridge and one other (I do not know which) sell alcohol. No growler fills allowed at grocery stores.
  31. Squatchito

    Squatchito Savant (250) Virginia Dec 6, 2007

    Another issue with the Virginia law is when you have a on premise license, you can not legally have distributors in to conduct tastings. Not sure where Total Wine stands on this, but it certainly frustrates me to no end.
  32. BeastLU

    BeastLU Advocate (550) Virginia Dec 20, 2012

    VA ABC is awful.
  33. I don't know about elsewhere, but growler fills in Los Angeles and the surrounding breweries are generally overpriced... I'm cool with not having them at my local store. Fills range from $12-$17... up to $25+ at the Bruery.
  34. Yeah, that's a big factor in why so many retailers (where legal) are jumping on the fad.

    "Hmmm... we could sell that ½ barrel keg of DFH 90 Minute Ale for $239 retail to some guy with a kegerator OR we could sell it a ½ gallon growler at a time for $15 to 31 different customers and make $465."

    So, the customer pays more for an often poorly-bottled growler, without the benefits of a beer bottled on the modern bottle line of DFH. And the "savings" of not having to buy bottles (the customer has to do that!), labels, crowns, etc., all go right into the retailers' pockets.
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  35. LeRose

    LeRose Advocate (605) Massachusetts Nov 24, 2011

    We are in SE Mass, so we hit Providence, East Prov, or Warwick, and the rules probably change again crossing state line. No Massachsetts Whole Foods are close enough! Not a big deal....the different rules are interesting.
  36. ressling

    ressling Savant (280) Georgia Oct 26, 2011

    TW already has them in GA.
  37. OMsweetOM

    OMsweetOM Savant (340) California Feb 1, 2011

    This is why it's pointless to growler fill anything that makes a run on the production line. I stick with experimental and pub exclusive brews for my growler fills.
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  38. Not sure about growler fills, but in CA, TW is opening a few beer tasting stands now.
  39. HKUSPC40

    HKUSPC40 Savant (300) Washington Aug 28, 2012

    Find out who the beer manager is and talk to him/her! TW allows the local beer managers to decide what beer goes on tap (assuming it's available from the distributors of course)!
  40. I was in South Carolina in December and stopped into the TW in Greenville. They had a growler station and had a pretty impressive tap list. I picked up a growler of Terrapin Liquid Bliss while there. They also had at least three different growler options, each with different prices. The cheapest was a clear growler, but they also had the standard brown glass, and a swing-top option, if I remember correctly. I was really quite impressed with the beer selection in general, and the growler fill options made it a go-to when I'm in the area again.