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Under appreciated/under produced beer styles

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BottleCaps80, Feb 15, 2013.

  1. Under appreciated ... Brown ales and ambers. Also, Irish reds shouldn't be seasonal, make them year-round (especially Boulevard).
  2. n2185

    n2185 Advocate (715) North Carolina Apr 14, 2008 Beer Trader

    Gruits and braggots. I'd rather see some truly unique and historical styles instead of crappier versions of styles that dominate the markets in England and Germany. Also more traditional Baltic porters rather than the "imperial porters" that are labeled as such.
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  3. kevanb

    kevanb Champion (795) Illinois Apr 4, 2011 Beer Trader

    There are not enough Goses to satisfy my insatiable thirst for them
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  4. hardy008

    hardy008 Champion (780) Minnesota Jan 12, 2008 Subscriber

    Roggenbier and Sahti.
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  5. zid

    zid Advocate (715) New York Feb 15, 2010 Beer Trader

    English Strong Ale
    Keller Bier / Zwickel Bier
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  6. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poobah (1,045) New Jersey Jun 3, 2004 Beer Trader

    Speaking of English Strong Ales, try the Yards Jefferson Tavern Ale if you haven't yet; I love their yeast sig. It's quite good, and you'd never guess it's hovering at around 8%.
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  7. docnose

    docnose Aficionado (155) Alabama Feb 7, 2013

    Porters, and barrel aged porters...
  8. TravisR

    TravisR Savant (400) New Jersey Dec 31, 2012

    Tavern Ale is a solid brew, and a staple in my fridge. To the OP, American Strong Ales.
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  9. Mostly German lager styles; Dunkels, Dopplebocks, Eisbocks, Helles, Marzen.
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  10. TheSSG

    TheSSG Savant (410) Illinois Jul 27, 2008

    This guy knows what's going on.

    Capital's lagers are stunning. Their Doppelbocks are the best, ditto for their Maibock.
    Sweet Jesus are they good.
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  11. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Michigan Feb 16, 2013

    Please Please release some barrel aged stouts during summer some of us don't like anything besides stout and porter no matter how hot it is outside!!!!
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  12. Second runnings/small beers/biers de table.
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  13. trevorjk

    trevorjk Savant (365) Netherlands Aug 28, 2009 Beer Trader

    If you want German style beers, look no further than Wisconsin.

    I want American Breweries to take a stab at a GOOD 5% Chezch Pilsner.

    America has ruined pilsner beers for me. Luckily i live in Europe now and can have some damn good pilsners daily :)
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  14. Lutter

    Lutter Advocate (660) Texas Jun 30, 2010

  15. trevorjk

    trevorjk Savant (365) Netherlands Aug 28, 2009 Beer Trader

    Same goes for New Glarus's full line up of German style Lagers. Not to mention Just about every self respecting brewery in wisconsin has at least 1 or 2 different german style beers. (lake front, O'so, Central, and just about every micro brewery in existense in Wi) Wisconsin is the next best thing for German beers outside of Germany.
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  16. crytion

    crytion Savant (255) Ohio Jun 24, 2010

    imperial red ales.
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  17. Eisbocks, they sound interesting!
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  18. india tan ale. Think about it
  19. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Michigan Feb 16, 2013

    Pilsners are highly effected by the water used to brew them at least if you want a good one theirs a reason certain parts of europe does it better.
  20. If you can get your hands on Williamsburg (VA) Alewerks Bourbon Barrel Porter, I highly recommend it. It's very bourbon forward young, but the bourbon mellows out beautifully in 6-12 months.
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  21. English-style brown ales are horribly underrepresented. I've never understood why American breweries see fit to ruin a perfectly good brown ale by adding too much hops to it. Smuttynose Old Brown Dog comes close to scratching my itch, but this is one style I've resorted to making myself, since no commercial brewery seems to produce the beer I want.
  22. MammaGoose

    MammaGoose Aficionado (230) Wyoming Jan 10, 2013

    (This is somewhat contrary to my "I hate gimmicky beers" thread)...

    I'd also like to see some more play on traditional styles that don't get as much love. We see a lot of Imperial/Double IPAs, lots of Imperial and barrel-aged stouts, even a fair amount of Imperial Reds and such. I'd like to see more styles get that kind of attention. Stouts and IPAs have, by definition, strong bold flavors, so it's easier to just amplify that. A brown or a wheat or something are characterized by a more mellow balanced profile. It might be trickier to make the flavor bolder while still maintaining the balance of the styles.

    There are af few examples...Nugget Nectar is an Imperial Amber if I'm not mistaken? I had an Imperial oak-aged Belgian wit from River North which I thought was awesome. It can definitely be done.
  23. BlackDragon

    BlackDragon Initiate (0) Michigan Feb 16, 2013

    also try Dragons Milk
  24. DIM

    DIM Champion (795) Pennsylvania Sep 28, 2006 Beer Trader

    God I miss roggenbier.
  25. fatsnowman22

    fatsnowman22 Savant (305) Nevada Feb 2, 2011 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Esb, saison, Brett ipa
  26. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Advocate (510) Missouri Sep 14, 2011

    Steam/California Common
    Bier de Garde
    in addition to many others I liked above
  27. docnose

    docnose Aficionado (155) Alabama Feb 7, 2013

    I'll add it to my list! I live in Alabama so we're kind of new to this whole good beer thing...!
    I'd really like to get some Great Lakes "Edmund Fitzgerald" but can't justify driving 450 miles round trip for a six pack!!!
  28. docnose

    docnose Aficionado (155) Alabama Feb 7, 2013

    Adding to my list!
  29. nolabrew

    nolabrew Aficionado (160) Louisiana Apr 20, 2010

    Yup. I'm amazed they're not more popular here. They're complex and very refreshing.
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  30. weltywm

    weltywm Savant (305) Pennsylvania Jul 27, 2012

    Wheat wines. Only ever seen one or two.
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  31. I feel like I can't find enough of them..

    Indirectly agree, in that I wish there were fewer bullshit saisons. Seems like the "in" style for American brewers of the past couple years. Just based on perception in N.E. area at least...
  32. HevvyMetalHippie

    HevvyMetalHippie Savant (410) Massachusetts Nov 16, 2010 Beer Trader

  33. patto1ro

    patto1ro Advocate (620) Netherlands Apr 26, 2004 Subscriber

    KK, Broyhan, 160/-, Boys Bitter, AK, Mumme, Danziger Joppenbier, XXXX, to name a few.
  34. TheBrewo

    TheBrewo Champion (880) New York Nov 11, 2010

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  35. mellowmark

    mellowmark Advocate (630) Minnesota Mar 31, 2010 Beer Trader

    Professor Fritz Briem 1809 Berliner Weisse ftw!
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  36. bubseymour

    bubseymour Champion (830) Maryland Oct 30, 2010 Beer Trader

    I'd like to see less American Pale Ales and American IPAs being offered and some downsizing to occer by brewers. Several I love, but just too many saturating the market in US and honestly I don't think the flavor profiles of these 2 styles really are the easiest on the pallet for the masses and other styles would sell better if more readily available and easy to gain access. Agree with most, need more English and German styles to be attempted by American craft makers.
  37. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poobah (1,045) New Jersey Jun 3, 2004 Beer Trader

    Attempt not. Do, or do not! There is no attempt.

    The last thing we need are more lame attempts at these styles along the lines of what we usually get from domestic 'O'fests'.
  38. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Advocate (635) New Jersey Mar 6, 2008 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Any lager except AAL
  39. dar482

    dar482 Champion (875) New York Mar 9, 2007 Beer Trader

    I have yet to have a proper American version of a German kolsch or Czech pilsner. Hopheads don't really seem to care for them, but I just love their crisp drinkability. They have a refreshing pop and just the perfect beer for summer meals sitting outdoors.