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Vanity Fair interview with Shaun Hill, Hill Farmstead

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by MikeCactusGordon, Apr 25, 2013.

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  1. kbuzz

    kbuzz Champion (865) Pennsylvania Jan 22, 2011 Beer Trader

    Love this man's BBQ!

    EDIT: I know this has nothing to do with pretentious S. Hill's brewery or whatever this thread is rambling about, but I've just been obsessed with BBQ Pitmasters and got excited to see this name pop up...sorry everyone...

    Arbitrary bickering...resume! :D
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  2. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    I hope he isn't reading this thread. Combine the last couple pages of discourse with a little late-night Nietzsche or Kierkegaard, and all bets are off.
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  3. Insight into Hill's sensibility can be gleaned from a close reading of Nietzsche's long essay, On the Genealogy of Customer Service (which was itself written to help clarify the themes in his earlier, frequently misunderstood Beyond Good and Bro-Dude).

    The interview suggested to me that Hill's a serious guy who approaches his work with a strong sense of vocation, and I can't imagine these qualities aren't closely connected to the reputedly outstanding quality of his brew.
  4. VonZipper

    VonZipper Advocate (535) New York Feb 9, 2011 Beer Trader

    He's kind of the eccentric, out-there type. I'm agree though, he shouldn't have to throw on a hat and dance for the people buying beer in his driveway. He could be the biggest douche in the world, but in the end, the beer speaks for him.
    P.S. He looks like a balding/older Vinny Chase/Adrian Grenier.
  5. nc41

    nc41 Champion (855) North Carolina Sep 25, 2008 Beer Trader

    He makes great beer, that's his passion, if he's happy why would anyone else care? Everyone bitches about the In Bev empire and here's the 180 on that, but guys are ripping him? I don't get it. Here's a guy in remote VT doing what he loves and he constantly hits Hr's with his brews, that kinda success could be a staggering weight. Guys want more than he could possibly brew, and the success is astounding, maybe overwhelming. I look forward to meeting him in May though.
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  6. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    He's reading this thread. He liked a post on page 4.

    Hi Shaun! You make great beer! I want it in mah bellah!
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  7. Norica

    Norica Savant (380) Massachusetts Feb 2, 2006

    Put a gate up at the end of your driveway, Shaun. Problem solved.
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  8. PackieMcHopHead

    PackieMcHopHead Aficionado (195) Massachusetts Oct 1, 2009 Beer Trader

    Very apt analogy. I've been to both places and that's dead on. These guys are both artists and craftsmen. No compromises, even at the expense of profit or their convenience.

    For the record, went up to HFS yesterday afternoon. My first time. No line whatsoever at 4:30, it was a beautiful thing. Made the expereience that much better. (Would have liked to have met Shaun though.) And for whatever reason, no crowds at the Waterbury bars later that night. A wonderful serene evening of tasting the best beers on the planet in relative peace and quiet with friends.
  9. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    I think he liked my post on p4 too. I'm giggling like a schoolgirl! Never had a HF beer yet tho :(
  10. impending

    impending Champion (870) California Mar 12, 2010

    totally off topic but brf having read this and your next post paragraph - I gotta ask . . what is it you do?

    on topic
    WTF, Shaun is doing it his way, good for him, good for us, good
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  11. whiskey

    whiskey Advocate (535) California Feb 25, 2012 Beer Trader

    I'm waiting for the impending completion of this sentence...
  12. afrokaze

    afrokaze Advocate (685) Arizona Jun 12, 2009 Beer Trader

    Just let the guy make his delicious, delicious beer.
  13. pixieskid

    pixieskid Advocate (670) Germany Jun 4, 2009

    Why he can't hire a friend or someone else who would want to run his retail shop is beyond me...I'm sure you he could pay someone in beer to cover the work he seemingly doesn't enjoy doing.
  14. MastaShonuf

    MastaShonuf Savant (460) California Jan 21, 2013 Beer Trader

    Keeping it smaller, keeps the control better. I quite enjoyed the couple things I have had from HF and would not want him getting too big. Places like Russian River have survived on top because of not being too big but big enough to meet most demand.

    Lagunitas was much better when they were brewing less beers and was not shipping all over the place. Many of the beers have suffered through mass production.
  15. duchessedubourg

    duchessedubourg Advocate (545) Vermont Nov 2, 2007 Beer Trader

    Already did.
  16. I get what he's saying. It started off as a hobby, turned into a small operation, and then the internet spreads word and he's overrun. There are only two ways to go, and both of them aren't ideal for someone who just wanted a small, quiet operation in VT. You either let the onslaught happen or you scale up, make a bigger job out of it, and possibly compromise quality. Either way, the small quiet operation in VT is over.

    I recently made the trip up to The Alchemist and realized HF was an hour away or so, but simultaneously saw that they were not open on Mondays. Oh well. Maybe next time. I get a lot of weekdays off, so maybe a day trip at some point on a Thursday or Friday.
  17. This seems like a pretty simple fix- gate with a chain lock at the base of the road. No?
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  18. jomobono

    jomobono Savant (445) Massachusetts Mar 12, 2012 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Nope, other people live on the road. There isn't a private road to the brewery, it is off a road shared by others.
  19. jomobono

    jomobono Savant (445) Massachusetts Mar 12, 2012 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Also I may be wrong but I think he doesn't like the lines because I think he feels bad that people have to wait in line for his beer.
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  20. If people wanting to meet me and shoot the shit were a feature of my typical workday I'd likely find another job.
  21. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    Surely there's some point at which the road is only going to his place. I mean, he has to have a driveway, right?
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  22. jomobono

    jomobono Savant (445) Massachusetts Mar 12, 2012 Subscriber Beer Trader

  23. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    Hah, wow, that idea definitely won't work then.
  24. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    Well, there is this new invention called a "fence"...
  25. jomobono

    jomobono Savant (445) Massachusetts Mar 12, 2012 Subscriber Beer Trader

    Aww, that would be sad. Plus that whole area is all nice and open for the fests and camping.
  26. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    I'm just saying, if it's a real problem concerning his privacy and people showing up at all hours, a fence with a gate might provide a solution. Maybe not ideal, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I don't want a security system on my house, but being burglarized once was enough to change my mind.
  27. jomobono

    jomobono Savant (445) Massachusetts Mar 12, 2012 Subscriber Beer Trader

    I didn't know it was a huge problem he was having. Who shows up at a brewery at night saying give me beer, can't happen that often right? Not enough to lock the place down I guess.
  28. draheim

    draheim Poobah (1,120) Washington Sep 18, 2010 Beer Trader

    No idea. I was just basing it on this post.
  29. ChanChan

    ChanChan Advocate (620) California Dec 12, 2009 Beer Trader

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  30. ChanChan

    ChanChan Advocate (620) California Dec 12, 2009 Beer Trader

    He comes across and looks like a Douche, but maybe I do as well!!

    I just wish I could taste some of his beer to decide for myself on how good it is!!
  31. jomobono

    jomobono Savant (445) Massachusetts Mar 12, 2012 Subscriber Beer Trader

    You do!!! ;)
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  32. broodog

    broodog Savant (395) Illinois Jul 18, 2009

    "I wear my heart on my sleeve, and my heart is a douchebag"
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  33. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Advocate (605) Vermont Mar 10, 2006

    I suspect it's people showing up too early in the day...
  34. JustBill

    JustBill Initiate (0) Vermont Jul 28, 2010

    I'm sure these personal attacks will make Shaun much more receptive and eager to meet all the strangers that convene on his property.

    Respect Beer. Respect Brewers.
  35. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    Average BA: "Shaun, you're a douchebag, now give me your .rar walez bro."
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  36. I'm embarrassed at the amount of negativity in this thread, coming from so many folks who claim Shaun's a douchebag yet probably have never met him.

    He's a unique guy with a unique vision to his craft who has done little-to-nothing personal to you. I think many of his comments are just plain honest, but too many people take them out of context from an editorial piece that probably has a bit of a spin on it (most editorial pieces do).
  37. Agreed. Someone even said he "looks like a douche". I just don't get the nastiness.
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  38. stupac2

    stupac2 Advocate (565) California Feb 22, 2011

    To some people doing thing like quoting dead philosophers automatically makes you a douchebag. Those people can be safely ignored.
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  39. LambicKing

    LambicKing Advocate (685) Florida Apr 13, 2011

    Not to mention his little slice of paradise owned by the family for centuries? I'm sure fests and camping rank a smidge below on his priority scale.

    I too would tire of answering the same inevitable questions, putting on a PR face and being observed like a zoo animal day after day...all while taking pleasure in sharing my craft and appreciating the business people bring. Oh, the duplicity.
  40. ehammond1

    ehammond1 Champion (790) Jul 4, 2008

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