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Victory is Becoming My Favorite Brewery

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by clegolfski, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. RenoZymurgist

    RenoZymurgist Savant (430) California May 4, 2003 Beer Trader

    Again it is just my opinion I am not trying to offend just to add a counterpoint to the discussion. Magnolia in SF only makes Cask conditioned English ales and has never put out a product as bland as strangeways or uncle teddys. Lodgson's Farmhouse and Hill Farmstead make the best farmhouse ales in America as well as Ommegang and Jester King. Victory is so so in that department as well.
  2. THEcorky

    THEcorky Initiate (0) Illinois Jan 9, 2011

    I agree 100%. Moonglow was decent but that's it.
  3. VaTechPhilly

    VaTechPhilly Savant (465) New York Oct 28, 2010 Beer Trader

    I live 5 minutes from Victory and love it. Although I wish they would come out with more Imperial Stout's. I do like the effort with the Aged series they are coming out with. Have a Red Thunder I'll be trying Christmas Eve.
  4. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Savant (475) Pennsylvania Jan 23, 2007

    I didn't mention Strangeways and The Bros give Teddy's a score of 99. What do they know. And again how can you take German styles out of the discussion and think you've judged Victory fairly. It's what they do.
  5. I just bought a 6er of Hop Devil and totally agree with the Bros.- it is world class.
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  6. LMT

    LMT Savant (375) Virginia Oct 15, 2009

    There's so much to like about Victory. Headwaters rekindled my adoration for pale ales and Prima Pils is one of my favorite beers.

    The only (very) slight negatives: Yakima needs to age for it to be enjoyable to me. And Old Horizontal really does make me sleepy.
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  7. Morey

    Morey Advocate (575) Pennsylvania Dec 30, 2007 Beer Trader

    We did a video review of Red Thunder last night. 2 out of the 3 of us were floored by this beer! I don't want to over-hype it for those who haven't had it, but It exceeded my expectations. Great to see a PA/East Coast brewery upping their game a bit. While I didn't love Dark Intrigue....Red Thunder is worth every bit of the $7.99 that I paid for it!
  8. Matt,

    Prima Pils is indeed a tasty beer.

    If you ever get a chance to go to the Victory Brewpub they will on occasion have ‘special’ Pilsners they label as Braumeister Pilsners. They have a Braumeister Pils on tap right now. I have not had the whole family of these Pils but the ones I have had I really enjoyed; a number of them I liked better that Prima Pils (it might be a strong influence of very fresh on draft kind of thing):

    · Braumeister Pils – Saaz
    · Braumeister Pils - Summit
    · Braumeister Pils - Hallertauer
    · Braumeister Pils - Spalt
    · Braumeister Pils - Sladek
    · Braumeister Pils – Tettnang
    · Braumeister Pils – Harvest Pils

    I thought the Braumeister Pils – Sladek was OUTSTANDING!! I also really enjoyed the Hallertauer and Saaz version. I thought the Tettnang version was good but I preferred Prima Pils to this version.

    The Harvest Pils (which is wet hopped) is also very, very tasty.

    I have seen Victory Braumeister Pils on occasion at Philly area beer bars but it is mostly available at the Brewpub in Downingtown or the Victory Beer Hall at the Philly Sports Complex.

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  9. RenoZymurgist

    RenoZymurgist Savant (430) California May 4, 2003 Beer Trader

    Ok ill bend. Victory makes amazing German Lagers and if you did a comparison with most west coast lagers they would win. Although Trumer only makes a pils and wins tons of medals while I havent seen many medals for Prima, though Trumer is techically a german brewery with an American plant. I prefer IPAs and American styles so if I had a choice between going to the Bistro's Double IPA fest or going to (insert PA german lager fest here) I would go to the double IPA fest. I just wanted to state that I don't personally like any of their ales except for headwaters. They are obviously making some great beer or they wouldnt have fans or the funds to expand, but my beer dollars usually go to IPAs and theirs isnt one of them. As far as Teddys, it is strange that it isnt cask conditioned yet it is served though a handpump, to me that is kind of misleading. Magnolia follows CAMRA guidelines and I feel there ales are much more authentic. Anyway I think this is going way off topic so ill stop posting on this thread as I think i have stated my point, hopefully without coming off like a jerk as I love beer and don't intend on bashing anyone I just wished to state my preference.
  10. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Savant (475) Pennsylvania Jan 23, 2007

    Trumer is an Austrian brewery with an American plant;]
  11. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Savant (475) Pennsylvania Jan 23, 2007

    You forgot Hersbrucker.
  12. Trumer is Austrian, but the Berkeley, CA brewery is owned by Gambrinus of Pete's-BridgePort-Spoetzl [Shiner] fame (as well as the former importer of Trumer and the ex-importer of Moosehead and Corona).

    According to reports at the time, Gambrinus licenses the brand and brewery names for the US market, and gets technical support from the Austrian brewery.
  13. As I was constructing the list I was thinking to myslelf that I would miss one (or two?).

    Thanks for the catch!

  14. BeerKangaroo

    BeerKangaroo Initiate (0) Alaska May 30, 2011

    In my opinion, Victory is good. Only beer of theirs I wasn't that into is Festbier. I even liked "Golden Monkey" and I'm really not into tripels.
  15. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    So basically you're not really into beer, just over the top retarded WC IPAs.
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  16. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    St. Boisterous and St Victorious are amazing, as are the Braumeister pils'. Old Horizontal, Lager, Prima and Helios are also pretty damn great. Great brewery. Devoid of that bratty American craft attitude of excess.
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  17. RenoZymurgist

    RenoZymurgist Savant (430) California May 4, 2003 Beer Trader

    No I hate yellow Lagers, octoberfests, and helles styles. Those are Victory's best beers that is why i am not a huge fan. I think balance is for other people, I drank balanced IPAs back when I was 21-22 then I got addicted to hops and I experienced Lupulin threshold shift. Yellow lagers, yes even the "hoppy" ones are not my thing.
  18. Flashy

    Flashy Advocate (675) Vermont Oct 22, 2003 Verified

    went to the brewpub a couple of months ago- heaven on earth.
  19. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Savant (475) Pennsylvania Jan 23, 2007

    You forgot about their dark lagers including St Victorious (Doppelbock) and Moonglow (Weizenbock) each receiving scores of 97 and 98 respectively from the Bros. Lager is more than pale and fizzy and sometimes hoppy.
  20. xanok

    xanok Savant (450) Connecticut Aug 13, 2009 Beer Trader

    They lost me a bit when they skipped an entire year of Old Horizontal. I was PISSED. Love Old Horizontal.

    I like Hop Devil more as well. That might be because Two Hearted is in the bottom half of all IPAs I've ever tried though. I think Hop Wallop is their better IPA though.
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  21. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    You keep mentioning IPAs as if they are the apex of beer culture. Hate to break it to you, Mr West Coast IPA Man, but there is a world of beer out there that isn't about hop assault.
  22. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Champion (855) North Carolina May 13, 2011 Beer Trader

    +1 to this. I was put off by it at first but, after having it a second time, it became one of my favorites for when I was in the mood for a dose of the funk. Bring it back!!
  23. steve8robin

    steve8robin Advocate (515) Massachusetts Nov 7, 2009 Beer Trader

    Same way I feel about Cigar City. Not too crazy about Victory myself. A couple brews I've enjoyed.
  24. Morey

    Morey Advocate (575) Pennsylvania Dec 30, 2007 Beer Trader

    I wouldn't call Hop Wallop a balanced IPA....it's pretty pine & floral heavy. Not much citrus though. I challenge you to try Red Thunder if you're into barrel aged beers. It's superb IMO. Cheers man.
  25. Killer brewery and yes Prima is the bomb. Storm King was an early fave stout for me but I smartly aged my Golden Monkey for about a year before drinking.
  26. Weizenbocks are not lagers, but Moonglow is a great beer
  27. chuckstout

    chuckstout Aficionado (245) Ohio May 22, 2006

    Prima Pils is always in stock at my house!
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  28. cjoc83

    cjoc83 Advocate (515) Pennsylvania Jul 31, 2010 Beer Trader

    Yakima Glory is one of the best black IPA's out there, IMHO. And Dark Intrigue (the barrel aged version of Storm King) was stellar. I hope they start making DI in bigger batches. I used to work at Victory back in the day, and it was pretty much the sole reason for me 'seeing the light' craft-wise, so Victory will always have a special place in my heart. I do wish they would experiment a little more, maybe put out a wild ale or another DIPA or stout (although the Donnybrook stout is amazing). But overall, I love Victory. Always solid.
  29. wvsabbath

    wvsabbath Advocate (570) West Virginia Apr 29, 2010 Beer Trader

    Victory makes solid beers, i can say they make atleast 10 beers annually that id buy over and over, i cant say that about too many brewies. Hellios is excellent and one of the best priced beers i have found. Stormking, hop devil, hop wallop, summer love, primia pils, baltic and red thunder, headwaters, yakima glory, all great imo, not a fan of golden monkey though.
  30. DrWily

    DrWily Aficionado (110) Illinois Nov 25, 2012

    Currently sipping a golden monkey loving life. It's my first experience with victory and I'm impressed. Golden monkey is a great tripel. The victory mixed pack has made my night.
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  31. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poobah (1,440) California Mar 18, 2010 Verified

    They are pretty solid.
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  32. Vivs85

    Vivs85 Savant (470) New York Nov 29, 2012 Beer Trader

    Victory 12 ale is amazingly good... I like most things from Victory, but this one was highly impressive
  33. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Champion (945) Pennsylvania Apr 4, 2009 Beer Trader

    I revisited the Yakima glory last night and its out of bounds good. :cool:
  34. DaKur

    DaKur Savant (400) Rhode Island Nov 15, 2012

    Just bought a variaty pack and loved em all except the Golden Monkey had white chunks on the bottom of the bottle. havent touched it
  35. That's normal for bottle conditioned beers. It's just yeast which has flocculated and dropped out of suspension. You can consume it. Hell, some beers are better that way. Or if it grosses you out, just pourly slowly to keep the sediment in the bottle. You will limit yourself considerably if you turn away all bottle conditioned beers though.
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  36. CellarGimp

    CellarGimp Savant (485) Missouri Sep 14, 2011

    Just discovered Victory lager. Probably the best American Helles lager I've had. Prima pils and their IPAs are great. I even like Golden Monkey which was featured on my Cicerone exam (spiked with "infection"). Great brewery. Wish it was available in STL.
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  37. NYRfan4ever

    NYRfan4ever Savant (295) New Jersey Oct 30, 2009

    Prima, Golden Monkey, and fresh hop devil (our distributor sucks here so its hard to find fresh) are my favorite year round brews. Their barrel stuff is getting better, Red Thunder was decent and should age well and they just put out Oak Horizontal. Cheers!!
  38. RenoZymurgist

    RenoZymurgist Savant (430) California May 4, 2003 Beer Trader

    Thanks for enlightnening me. I forgot that in the eight years I have been a member of this site I have never reviewed or drank anything but IPAs from california. Do you know more things about the world of beer I should hear about as in the two weeks you've been a member you must have really dug into some hidden gems in the world of beer styles. People with attitudes like yours are why I will never live on the east coast, way too judgemental and quick to act aggressively. I am entitled to my opinion just as you are to yours, deal with it in a manner befitting an advocate not a hater.
  39. Porkhustle

    Porkhustle Initiate (0) Dec 6, 2012

    Hate to break it to you, IPA Boy, but a BA register date is not an indicator as to how much one loves beer, and your sweeping comment about the east coast and your general arrogance are hallmarks of ignorance. So carry on wearing your lupulis threshold as a badge of honor and I will carry on viewing it as a badge of isolation
  40. AleWatcher

    AleWatcher Advocate (730) Illinois Jan 25, 2009

    You are not alone.
    The only good thing Victory ever did was to name their brewery as a reference to Orwell's 1984.