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What type of beer defect could cause this flavor?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beerinmaine, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. beerinmaine

    beerinmaine Aficionado (235) Maine Jun 20, 2009

    Over in the Night Stalker thread there's been a lot of talk of the beer being "infected", but the chief complaints have been a flavor of soy or teriyaki, which are not typical signs of infection as described, for example, here:

    So, in the abstract and assuming this is not a flavor the brewer desired, what type of defect could cause it?
  2. Horbar

    Horbar Advocate (675) Rhode Island Feb 24, 2012

    Oxidation or an unsanitary bottle maybe.
  3. LeRose

    LeRose Advocate (725) Massachusetts Nov 24, 2011 Subscriber

    Is Night Stalker bottle conditioned?
  4. "Soy sauce" off flavors can sometimes occur when yeast has died (or is decomposing) in the bottle and the beer is basically dying.
  5. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poobah (1,260) Pennsylvania Dec 4, 2004 Beer Trader

    Tried Nightstalker a few years ago and it tasted like PVC on the back end, won't be any time soon that I'll buy it again.
  6. jklinck

    jklinck Savant (265) Washington Jul 23, 2007

    I know from homebrewing that leaving beer on the main yeast cake can cause autolysis. But can it becaused by the thin layer that will be present from bottle conditioning?
  7. vacax

    vacax Advocate (675) California Jun 3, 2008 Beer Trader

    Could be the fading flavor of the dry hopping is seen as an off-flavor when combined with the roastiness. Typically people don't age beers with lots of dry hopping.
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  8. MikeB20

    MikeB20 Aficionado (215) Delaware Aug 30, 2009

    That's enough to keep me from being excited. :D
  9. leedorham

    leedorham Champion (855) Washington Apr 27, 2006

    Autolysed yeast produces glutamates and amino acids, which are the type of compounds that give soy sauce its savory character. So soy sauce character in beer is largely attributed to yeast autolysis.
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  10. danoeltico

    danoeltico Savant (430) North Carolina Jul 14, 2011 Beer Trader

    My wife thinks anything BBA tases like soy sauce
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  11. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poobah (1,260) Pennsylvania Dec 4, 2004 Beer Trader

    I'm probably due to try it again, maybe it was the batch?