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When does Kate age out?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by UNCCTDawg, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. UNCCTDawg

    UNCCTDawg Savant (430) North Carolina Nov 30, 2011 Beer Trader

    Not talking about that ole girl that you messed around with in College...

    Kate the Great. What's the optimum time to hold one in your opinion? The reason I ask is because my brother-in-law and I opened some nice Imperial Stouts, over a few days, not too long ago (2009 Kate, 2012 BT, 2012 BASC, 2011 Hunaphu, 2012 Darkness, BCBVS, JK Whiskey Rodeo, Event Horizon). After talking for a while about their differences, tastes, smells, BA vs. non-BA, how we would rank them, we both agreed that the Kate was at the bottom of both of our lists... Granted, thats just two jackasses giving their opinions, so it doesnt mean anything besides just that... our opinions. But, did we hang on to it too long??? Has anyone done a vertical lately? I want to know so I can try to drink the next one that I try to grab a little sooner or at the optimum time. Those were all great brews and maybe thats what the problem was, they were all too good. I'm not downing the beer by any means, it was good. Thoughts?
  2. phillybeer7779

    phillybeer7779 Savant (310) Pennsylvania May 31, 2010 Beer Trader

    Can't really comment on aging Kate, but even fresh, its a little more subtle in flavor than some of the other stouts you guys drank that night. I enjoyed Kate, but it may not stand out compared to some of the more over the top stouts that are around these days.
  3. fehrminator

    fehrminator Advocate (570) North Carolina Jan 26, 2008 Beer Trader

    Just curious but aside from Kate ranking at the bottom, how did the rest of your list shape up? Solid lineup there.
  4. UNCCTDawg

    UNCCTDawg Savant (430) North Carolina Nov 30, 2011 Beer Trader

    Well... Mine was different than the bro-in-law's, but the best I remember was:

    BA Sexual Choc
    Black Tuesday
    Event Horizon
    Whiskey Rodeo
  5. I'm pretty sure Kate 09 was infected.
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  6. axeman9182

    axeman9182 Advocate (580) New Jersey Aug 5, 2009 Beer Trader

    I remember seeing a quote from an interview a while back where the brewer said two years was a sweet spot in terms of aging. Accordingly, I opened one bottle from my trip in 2010 fresh and one about two years later (which lined up with my 500th review). While the aged bottle was good, I definitely preferred Kate fresh.
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  7. tai4ji2x

    tai4ji2x Advocate (640) Massachusetts Aug 10, 2007 Beer Trader

    my kate 09's have tasted fine. supposedly they looked into it and there was no detected infection, just that the port-soaked oak spirals they used that year seemed to have an "off" acidity for some people.
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  8. maximum12

    maximum12 Champion (920) Minnesota Jan 21, 2008 Beer Trader

    I can't speak to the optimal age, but there were some bad bottles of '09 Kate floating around, because I had one. It was thin & tart & full of berry taste, which I'm certain wasn't the intent because I've had it since & the '09 was an entirely different beer.
  9. jglowe77

    jglowe77 Initiate (0) Massachusetts Jan 24, 2011

    It's already aged out, bummer. Better send it to me!:)
  10. UNCCTDawg

    UNCCTDawg Savant (430) North Carolina Nov 30, 2011 Beer Trader

    Sorry dude! It's been consumed!!!!
  11. Gosox8787

    Gosox8787 Savant (475) New Hampshire Jan 24, 2009 Verified

    My personal preference is that Kate is best fresh. All the experiences I've had with it on tap were better than the bottled version. I had 2011 Kate from the bottle four or five months after KtG day and I thought it was good, but nowhere near where it was only a few months before.

    Also, for what it's worth, I've thought there was always a bit of batch variation, particularly with the 2011 version which was higher in ABV. That was my personal favorite. 2012 was a bit port heavy IMO. I have heard things about the 2009 possibly being infected. I've never had it myself, but I have heard it's not the best vintage.