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When, in your opinion, is Heady at its peak?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by mark14580, Jun 7, 2013.

  1. since im not beer, no. When i make beer and people ask how old it is, if i brewed it 4, 6, 8 weeks ago, i tell them its 4, 6, 8 weeks old... beer is beer once it hits the yeast.
  2. chippo33

    chippo33 Advocate (735) Vermont Feb 29, 2012 Beer Trader

    yes, thank you - sorry about that
  3. This is the reason the whole argument is moot. There is a reason you will never drink a beer at 2 days old unless you are at a brewery drinking from a Bright tank, and that reason is that 1-2 day old beer sucks. The entire concept of a beer falling off over days is for the snobs and the ignorant.
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  4. nrs207

    nrs207 Advocate (715) Pennsylvania Sep 8, 2011 Beer Trader

    Somewhere around

  5. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) New York Jan 15, 2011

    Start trading
  6. mark14580

    mark14580 Initiate (0) New York Jan 15, 2011

    You've got to stop caring what other people discuss.
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  7. bud914

    bud914 Aficionado (150) New York Dec 6, 2008

    my brother in law goes up to the brewery for me once a month or so. he has business up there. just came back with 3 cases fresh as can be. i am a very popular guy at work. once a month that is.:)
  8. GreenMtnMike

    GreenMtnMike Aficionado (220) Pennsylvania May 30, 2013 Beer Trader

    I agree that keeping it cool is the key. If handled properly I don't see any difference between 1 day and 1 month. After that it does start to settle out a bit, but still tastes great for as long as you are likely to hold on to it.
  9. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Advocate (640) Illinois Feb 27, 2009 Beer Trader

    When its n my mouth!
  10. nuckbuc

    nuckbuc Savant (275) New York Dec 28, 2010

    Had same same batch as OP. Had it 2nd day after canned, thought it was awesome as always with a very slight dullness. Had a can today and it was absolutely amazing. Prior can was drank with several other great IPA's so maybe that's why. I don't know. It's heady. It's amazing. Just drink it.
  11. nuckbuc

    nuckbuc Savant (275) New York Dec 28, 2010

    Please send me all your 5 day old Heady. Wouldn't want you to suck down a non quality beer.
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  12. bennetj17

    bennetj17 Advocate (680) Arizona Oct 30, 2005 Beer Trader

    I would not, could not, drink it over a month old. Well maybe.
  13. RayUF07

    RayUF07 Advocate (635) Florida Sep 22, 2012

    2 days before it is canned.
  14. I had Heady on tap at the brewery as fresh as possible and it didn't taste too much different to me than it does out of the can after a few weeks. Maybe cause to me the beer is just so much of an in-your-face hop taste that it didn't fade in my opinion, but it's a great DIPA either way.
  15. I haven't had it in a enough different stages to comment, but I know from experience that Pliny is best in the 3-4 week range. And those of you who are counting time in the bright tanks; that is just stupid. Most people are referring to time after bottling or canning, which is when it is available for purchase and consumption.:)
  16. KevSal

    KevSal Advocate (710) California Oct 17, 2010 Beer Trader

    all i know is dont have heady after ephraim, it will ruin heady for u
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  17. Got the privilege to have one right from the canning line. Opened it 45 min later after it rested in an ice bucket.
    Pretty much the best way to have it.

    But also living in Cali and not having that privilege all the time, I don't get picky. So send me some and I'll reply
  18. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Poobah (1,440) California Mar 18, 2010 Verified

    The sooner the better.
  19. mmmbirra

    mmmbirra Savant (400) Italy Apr 19, 2009

    would you, could, at three weeks? Would you, could you, at ten days?
    you may like it, you will see
    you may like it, at four weeks
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  20. jaIsPoAn

    jaIsPoAn Savant (400) New York Aug 1, 2012 Verified

    Are you serious?
  21. It's at it's peak when I'm drinking it. Prefferably more than 1.

    I'm not nearly "developed" enough to truly judge a subtle difference in taste based on age. I'll take it whenever I can get it.
  22. chefduff2

    chefduff2 Advocate (580) New York Feb 17, 2008 Beer Trader

    I'll let you guys know as I get through my stash, but the strange part was I actually liked the can of it better then the sample I got right off the tap at the brewery. The guys working the line there are super friendly.
  23. I've had it anywhere from 1 week to 6 weeks. It tastes okay at each time. Definitely big and hoppy, but I think this beer is so highly rated more for the hype and the limited distribution, rather than the taste.
  24. Catchy_Name

    Catchy_Name Advocate (520) California Dec 21, 2011 Beer Trader

    Oh I think Heady is delicious. I just get so tired of IPA freshness threads, this IPA VS. that IPA threads, and whatever lame duck excuse people can cook up to never shut up about IPAs.
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  25. Hops are the most overrated thing regularly discussed in the craft beer community. To me, the best breweries (Cantillon, Fantome, New Glarus, Element, Night Shift) are the ones that manage to brew unique and interesting beers without relying so heavily on hops.

    Sorry if that offends anyone.
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  26. Chugs13

    Chugs13 Savant (485) New Jersey Dec 11, 2011 Beer Trader

    Hour 23 for sure.
  27. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Champion (790) California Mar 28, 2009 Beer Trader

    I just had my first 3 cans of heady and poured a full can of heady in the glass, below pic, and got zero floaties. I was under the impression all heady had floaties?

  28. There was a discussion in the past, and I believe his 10 weeks comment includes the brewing time, so it's really something like 3 weeks after canning.

    IMO it's ready to go right out of the gates, and like most every IPA, falls off a noticeable amount after a month or so. Heady is still very drinkable at 2-3 months, but after that it has lost what makes it so wonderful. Still drinkable, but not world class anymore. Consume fresh!
  29. BeerBucks

    BeerBucks Advocate (530) New York Feb 18, 2012

    A lady at the brewery told me its best consumed between weeks 3-12 from canning. The fresher the better for me. I like to drink the tasters at the brewery and I always drink two out of the can the night I pick any up. There is a slight change after about 3 weeks, then a big drop off after 8 weeks, imo. The change is not a bad thing at all. I suggest everyone picks them up in 12s and drinks two every week for 6 weeks to see how it evolves, then you can determine what you like best.
  30. brureview

    brureview Advocate (615) Massachusetts Jan 20, 2012 Verified

    Thanks for the forum on this question. I agree that Heady loses it "best quality" even after a week.

    My experience: great in the brewery. I drove to my hotel, put it in the fridge- great after 2 days.

    Drove home, the beer was not in the fridge for 7 hours. I tasted it the next night- not as good. The piquancy is gone- but it's still the same Heady.

    It's unfiltered and not pasteurized. That is probably key to its not lasting long.

    I have 5 cans in the fridge.

    John Kimmich says that it can be aged for a year. So it does last.
  31. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Savant (295) Oregon Feb 21, 2012 Beer Trader

    couldn't disagree more.
  32. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Advocate (705) Florida Jul 15, 2011 Beer Trader

    The second that primary fermentation ends, obviously.
  33. chippo33

    chippo33 Advocate (735) Vermont Feb 29, 2012 Beer Trader

    Absolutely, Ive been drinking and serving it for years. It's ok to have different opinions, thats the great thing about this site. I'm just repoting on the feedback and experience from all the customers i deal with.
  34. mcrago

    mcrago Savant (405) Indiana Oct 6, 2012

    Speaking of Heady, is it only available at The Alchemist? If not, how often is it found fresh in bottle shops in Vermont?
  35. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Poobah (1,260) Pennsylvania Dec 4, 2004 Beer Trader

    Within the first 6-8 weeks...why and how it lasted that long I'll never know but it still tasted great.
  36. Catchy_Name

    Catchy_Name Advocate (520) California Dec 21, 2011 Beer Trader

    Is this what the hop freshness debate has degraded to? Are we to believe that within a week this world class beer is a shell of its former self? Or that you can actually tell the difference in this beer hour by hour?
  37. brureview

    brureview Advocate (615) Massachusetts Jan 20, 2012 Verified

    Good point:) In the video, John states that his months old can of Heady is very good. Who knows? Maybe we are expecting the first "rush" we experience from this beer. The balance doesn't go away. Perhaps the intense pine may wane.
    One of the reasons we are so temperamental about this beer is because it's difficult to get- and once we purchase it, we notice delicate change.
  38. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Savant (445) Illinois Mar 2, 2013

    Heady peaks at 18 hours and 47 minutes after it was canned. The window of maximum awesomeness only lasts 8 minutes and you absolutely must drink it straight from the can. If you missed the window of maximum awesomeness it's a drain pour.
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  39. KevSal

    KevSal Advocate (710) California Oct 17, 2010 Beer Trader

    I was drink ephraim last night and kept thinking "man this reminds me of heady" so I cracked a heady and did a side by side. Ephraim beat it on every level, guess its more tuned to my taste and palate than heady is. Saw this thread while I was sippin on both.
    Ephraim needs to get bottled!
  40. Catchy_Name

    Catchy_Name Advocate (520) California Dec 21, 2011 Beer Trader

    Could just be your head messing with you. I'm sure you're aware of the correlation between a beer's difficulty to acquire and how it's perceived by the human palate.