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Why isn't glassware for beer made with brown glass?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by sandiego67, Feb 15, 2013.

  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

    This one? (I think there are a number of sites with the same graph.
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  2. teal

    teal Aficionado (195) Wisconsin May 3, 2012

    I don't chug beer so the idea that "My beer isn't in the glass long enough to skunk" (less that a minute? really?) doesn't work.

    It's an interesting question from an academic standpoint. I'm gonna buy a stein.
  3. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

    Lone Star used a very opaque black glass that was touted as being very light protective. Owens-Illinois also supplies those new black bottles for Beck's which I guess are essentially the same as the ones they made in the '60's for Lone Star. I read an interview with a O-I exec about they new bottles (specifically about Miller's Vortex bottle that they designed) and the black glass is supposedly manufactured using an expensive two-step process. Still surprised that AB used that black bottle for Beck's Sapphire but not for Budweiser Black Crown.

    KVNBGRY Advocate (635) Florida Aug 1, 2012 Beer Trader

    I'd like to see someone shotgun a ten fidy...
  5. And it's been said that bottled beer can become light-struck in less than one minute in bright sun, after a few hours in diffuse daylight, and in a few days under normal fluorescent lighting.

    Sounds like a buncha bs to me. I believe Miller beers in the clear bottles always tasted like Hell. But..
  6. tai4ji2x

    tai4ji2x Advocate (665) Massachusetts Aug 10, 2007 Beer Trader

    dunno if you're joking or whatever, but miller uses tetrahop extract, which is laboratory-engineered to be skunk-resistant
  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Champion (810) New Jersey Aug 10, 2005 Subscriber

    That quote appears to be one from The Practical Brewer (1977), from the Master Brewers Association of the Americas. I'm sure they'd be happy to hear of your research that disproves it. They're having a technical conference later in the year and are currently calling for papers-

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  8. BeerFan

    BeerFan Savant (375) New Jersey Feb 11, 2003 Beer Trader

    What amazes me about a thread like this is the many stupid commets made because one didn't the time to read the entire thread. I guess that would be asking too much!
  9. I guess they don't teach those "black magic voodoo" subjects like chemistry and physics at some schools around the country.
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  10. hagbergl

    hagbergl Savant (320) Maryland Aug 27, 2009

    Another solution: drink at night...like most people. ;)
  11. krl2112

    krl2112 Advocate (680) Illinois Nov 10, 2012 Beer Trader

    But beer does not get skunky after only a couple of minutes from sunlight.
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  12. crossovert

    crossovert Champion (810) Illinois Mar 29, 2009

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  13. You win. Screw science.
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  14. krl2112

    krl2112 Advocate (680) Illinois Nov 10, 2012 Beer Trader

    Seriously, a couple of minutes? Just because u read something doesn't mean it's true. Geez sheeple.
  15. Maybe you don't smell the mercaptin. Maybe you drink dark beers that are not prone to skunking so fast.

    I have experienced this in a minute or less on a bright sunny day, with an IPA (or pilsner, or koelsch) in direct sunlight. It depends on the beer, the sun intensity, and your ability to pick up the skunk aroma.
  16. It appears that this thread has spawned three different factions:

    1. Beer Drinkers that disagree with physics and chemistry - We will call them the Dullards
    2. Beer Drinkers that don't care if light affects beer - We will call them the Unaffected
    3. Beer Drinkers who recognize that light does affect beer and find it a mildly interesting topic - We will call them the Target Audience.
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  17. If anyone has ever been to an outdoor sporting event (Baseball game, football game, tennis, golf, etc) and had a cup of beer in a clear plastic cup, you can't deny that the first cold sip doesn't taste a lot different than the last sip.

    If you are shotgunning $9 Coors lights at the ballgame at a rate that they would never get affected by sitting in the sun, God Bless you and your big disposable income budget.
  18. Barrelsnbeer

    Barrelsnbeer Aficionado (200) North Carolina Oct 6, 2012 Beer Trader

    ive done it, and i also dont recomend it. its a straight night ender
  19. krl2112

    krl2112 Advocate (680) Illinois Nov 10, 2012 Beer Trader

    It's also because the beer gets warmer and cheap beer only is palatable really cold.
  20. arniepnminne

    arniepnminne Savant (400) Minnesota Jun 2, 2010 Beer Trader

    Who the hell told you that?
  21. Why are you outside in the hot sun drinking a skunking beer when you could be inside at the computer watching movies and playing games. ;)
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  22. Who the hell told you to make uninformed comments before reading the entire thread?

    It's not a theory, it is a provable fact.
  23. HeyJim

    HeyJim Savant (395) Pennsylvania Sep 22, 2012

    Man, I'm glad I don't drink my beer slowly, from a glass, at noon, in the middle of an open field along the equator.
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  24. CircusBoy

    CircusBoy Savant (340) Ohio Mar 10, 2008

    I guess I am one of the Unaffected. If I'm drinking outside it's generally for some sort of social function or to enjoy the whether so I'm willing to sacrifice my beer not being 100%. It may not be optimal conditions, but I've never had to pour a beer.
  25. fmccormi

    fmccormi Champion (890) Florida Oct 24, 2010 Beer Trader

    Kinda sounds like a line from Naked Lunch.

    Personally, I drink beer completely naked in my backyard. Kegstands only, so no skunking.
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  26. You should be more concerned about sunscreen than skunky beer.
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  27. Larrygto

    Larrygto Aficionado (240) Arizona May 28, 2012

    I want!!
  28. TheGoldsmith

    TheGoldsmith Zealot (80) Missouri Jan 20, 2013

    Sounds like a good excuse to drink Sours!
  29. brewbetter

    brewbetter Savant (420) Nauru Jun 2, 2012

    Drink from the can if you're so concerned.
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  30. Wait until the mountains are blue, then pour into red dixie cup. Problem solved.
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  31. C2H5

    C2H5 Savant (480) Illinois Jan 7, 2012 Beer Trader

  32. cmannes

    cmannes Savant (475) Minnesota Mar 15, 2009 Beer Trader

  33. mfnmbvp

    mfnmbvp Advocate (715) Illinois Nov 28, 2012 Beer Trader

    I've got the same one sitting down in the basement. This thread has inspired me to wash it out and use it, finally.
  34. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (460) Wisconsin Mar 13, 2010 Beer Trader

    Heat polishing is ideal but considering the thickness of the glass and the glued lables probably won't even stand up well to regular use I'm guessing getting a flame near it and getting the glass hot enough to heat polish it won't do any good. Painted bottles could work great as long as the paint can stand the heat.
  35. I can remember a few years back before I really got into beer, drinking Boddingtons from a glass while helping my step-father put a gazebo kit together. Anyways, in the bright July sun that glass of Boddingtons managed to noticeably skunk within ten minutes. And Boddingtons isn't even particularly hoppy.

    I shudder to think what it would have done to an AIPA.

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  36. ShaneP

    ShaneP Aficionado (210) Colorado Jan 26, 2013

    One of the most niche questions I have even seen. Interesting from an academic standpoint, but 99.99% of people would not think about this and instead will just drink their beer and enjoy it. If you are worried then just drink inside, drink only at night when using a clear glass, or drink fast when outside.
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  37. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Savant (425) Missouri Jun 10, 2008 Beer Trader

    Budweiser sells billions of brown bottled beer that people drink directly out of... your theory is bunk.
  38. codysjb

    codysjb Savant (470) Prince Edward Island (Canada) Jun 16, 2010 Beer Trader

    Its a little different out of a bottle. a reasonable person expects the freshly opened bottle to be clean, but the same person would be warry about a brown pint glass that they couldn't visually inspect to make sure it was clean.
  39. cubbyswans

    cubbyswans Savant (425) Missouri Jun 10, 2008 Beer Trader

    Say what? What does the same person do when they get an imperial stout in a clear glass? Does their head explode or do they just drink the beer and presume the glass is clean? I can honestly say I have never once inspected a glass prior to drinking a beer to make sure it was clean. I know my glasses are clean at home and I presume an establishment is washing their glassware before serving beverages.
  40. EdH

    EdH Aficionado (230) Utah Jul 27, 2005

    What if we've experienced it? "A couple of minutes" might not do that much damage... But 10 minutes, definitely.