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WLP007 strangeness

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by utahbeerdude, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Advocate (500) Utah May 2, 2006

    Tonight I made a starter for an upcoming brew this weekend that will use WLP007 (Dry English Ale). When I shook the vial to get the yeast into suspension I noticed that there was a rather hard (almost solid) plug of yeast that took quite a while to break apart.

    So I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this with this (or any other White Labs) yeast. I'm guessing that this was perhaps the result of a very heavy flocculation? Any ideas, comments, etc? I did go ahead an pitch it into the starter wort.

    FWIW, here is a picture after I shook it up, but before pitching. When I pitched it was still quite clumpy, but seemed to disperse into the wort.

  2. pdoran10

    pdoran10 Savant (330) Minnesota Jun 30, 2009

    Dump it...

    into starter wort... you overly worried silly pants.
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  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Advocate (500) Utah May 2, 2006

    Not really worried, and I did dump it into the starter. Just wondering if anyone else has observed this.
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Champion (930) Pennsylvania Jul 12, 2009 Beer Trader

    It's not because it's White Labs. It's because the strain is an extremely high floccer. Perfectly normal.
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  5. NiceFly

    NiceFly Savant (405) Tajikistan Dec 22, 2011

    Like Vikemike said perfectly normal for a high flocc yeast.
    WLP002/WY1968 does the same thing. Starters (at least ones on a stirplate) end up looking like egg drop soup.
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  6. ultravista

    ultravista Zealot (90) Nevada Dec 11, 2010

  7. EdH

    EdH Aficionado (230) Utah Jul 27, 2005

    Yeah, that's what it should be doing. This strain is kind of a pain in the ass to work with; But it's worth it, as it'll do basically the same thing in the fermentor.

    I made a starter on a stir plate with it once, and woke up to a bunch of chunks swirling around in the flask. It's a weird one...
  8. CASK1

    CASK1 Savant (475) Florida Jan 7, 2010 Verified

    I used that yeast a couple of weeks ago for the first time (best bitter). The beer was brilliantly clear after a week in the primary, and removing the cake was a real chore. I do like the beer!
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  9. Patrick

    Patrick Initiate (0) Massachusetts Aug 13, 2007

    Does this yeast make a nice bitter? When I've used it, it's been pretty neutral.
  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Champion (800) Wisconsin Aug 13, 2005 Verified

    A recent batch I made used this yeast. I had the same issue. Had to shake the crap out of it to get all the yeast into the starter. But the beer brewed up just fine. As others said, it's symptomatic of a flocculent yeast.
  11. CASK1

    CASK1 Savant (475) Florida Jan 7, 2010 Verified

    It had moderate fruity esters in my hands. Also a hint of diacetyl. I used a touch of roast in the grist for color, and the flavor is a bit more evident that I planned, but that's not the yeast's fault!
  12. rocdoc1

    rocdoc1 Savant (460) New Mexico Jan 13, 2006

    Maybe I should try it again but years ago I made 3 different beers with this yeast and thought they all sucked horribly. One beer I brewed turned out great, but it took a year of lagering to make it drinkable. But so many people like this yeast so don't just listen to me.
  13. EdH

    EdH Aficionado (230) Utah Jul 27, 2005

    I think it's pretty neutral, too. It's been my standby for American Ales for a while now. When tasting decanted starter beer, I taste a subtle mineral-like flavor; but, it's always overpowered by any significant hops in a finished beer.