WWWBV Release

Discussion in 'US - Mountain' started by bushmat2, May 19, 2013.

  1. So for those of you that frequent the Denver Beer Hunter's Report, I just put up a poll. Please visit and give your answer regarding special releases.
     
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  2. saxlover

    saxlover Aficionado (115) Colorado May 20, 2013

    this cured my raging sunday hangover.
     
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  3. saxlover

    saxlover Aficionado (115) Colorado May 20, 2013

  4. joshclauss

    joshclauss Savant (315) Colorado Oct 31, 2010

    Although many people may not agree with the bottle limit no matter what the case, as I understand it the bottle limits are that high because Chad wants to encourage people to have as much as possible to keep and experience the beer developing over time. I think that argument is a bit stronger for releases like Stranahan's Snowflake, which just seemed like completely off-base for the number of people that showed up. That was also freezing cold, and there was no party at all. Cellarists are hobbyists, and that's why I (personally) don't think it's a big deal to have lines or high bottle limits or anything else of the sort. Plus, we made that thing one hell of a party. If you can't have fun at a Crooked Stave release, you may need to seek psychological attention.
     
  5. joshclauss

    joshclauss Savant (315) Colorado Oct 31, 2010

    Dude, thanks for bringing Oskar the G'Rauch. I had been wanting to try that for awhile now, and it was one of my favorite beers of the day. Totally goes to show that no one should ever feel intimidated about a bottle share or what they're bringing to the table - which I heard from some folks while I was there. Just bring something, chances are good someone will be really happy it was there.
     
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  6. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (735) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    Ok 2012....I'm not trying to bring you guys down but I've been to a lot of beer releases here and in CA and its sort of sad to see people wasted before noon. Personally I like to go and have my samples, buy my bottles, and that is enjoyable enough. Showing up with a cooler of beer to a beer release is just odd to me. Do wine drinkers do this at wine releases?
     
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  7. I personally had a fantastic time yesterday. I arrived around 10:30 and there were maybe 50 people ahead of me. I guess I was not surprised at all by the turnout. I think we all need to look at the demographic that's buying up Crooked Stave beers. It's a much more diverse and expanded crowd than you see at,for example, a release like Blighs or Uncle Jacobs. I was literally the last person to receive a full allocation at the Volunt release so I knew I needed to arrive twice as early. This is not a bad thing. Crooked Stave is absolutely killing it right now and the guys over there are maintaining a great attitude about it. The line moved slowly yesterday for a myriad of reasons, but also because Chad was personally talking with people as they bought their beer. Sure, it makes the line a little slower, but its cool to see him so excited to share his craft.

    The bottle share was great. I tried some amazing new beers and met some awesome people and BAs. I'd like to personally thank Fortsambo, Narayan, salukialum, blindpiggie, drlovemd, Hessma, denverbeerdrinker, joshclauss, and forgetfu for sharing. Especially forgetfu for the pour from the 3L supplication, and joshclauss for the HF double citra and the awesome HF washed cheese. It was also nice to see Mr. B. hadnt seen him in a while. There are a lot of great guys and girls out there in our community. It was my pleasure to meet and share with you all.

    I do agree that there's room for improvement. Do bottle sales out the back, or develop a better way to queue for bottles. Cash only, or at least a second person would help move people out quicker as well. Tickets could have been helpful as well in order to give people a better feel as to whether they were going to get bottles or not.

    At the end of the day, its just beer. Crooked Stave will continue to crank out awesome stuff and I look forward to seeing many of you on 6/2.
     
  8. Nice, that's a good one.

    I was there until 3 yesterday and did not see a single person who looked wasted. I saw people enjoying great beer and company. The state of the restrooms is usually a good indicator of the sobriety of the people at the event, and it did t even look like anyone had used the bathroom when I left at 3.
    Dozens of BAs and hundred of Coloradans did this yesterday, but they didn't have the urge to come here and bash the folks that enjoy other facets of a beer release.
    Who cares what wine drinkers do?
     
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  9. fortsambo

    fortsambo Savant (280) Colorado Feb 14, 2011

    I had an absolute blast. Got there very early as I got shut out at Avery. Loved getting to see everyone and meet many new BAs. So many good people in the small world of CO beer nerds. The bottle share was top notch as well.
     
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  10. Yulles

    Yulles Savant (315) Minnesota Apr 12, 2009

    My cousin was there yesterday and got shut out. He's not on BA, so I don't think he realized how early he had to be there, but oh well. He had some fun still. If anyone has an extra, I'd love to be able to share a bottle with him when I am out there next.
     
  11. coreymcafee

    coreymcafee Savant (350) Colorado May 30, 2006

    Good thing no one here really cares about what makes you sad or what you find odd...
     
  12. Did anyone get a picture of the boneyard yesterday? It was pretty impressive when I left.

    And whoever left the empty bomber of '09 BCBS in my cooler bag is just cruel.
     
  13. coreymcafee

    coreymcafee Savant (350) Colorado May 30, 2006

    Oh, that was your cooler? :)
     
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  14. Was that the cooler bag with The Bruery White Chocolate in it?
     
  15. Domingo

    Domingo Poobah (1,030) Colorado Apr 23, 2005

    That '09 BCBS bottle sat there for a half hour as I think everyone assumed it was empty. I did not :)
    I had to really keep things under control, but I can't say "no" to that beer, and especially that vintage.
     
  16. Yep
     
  17. Hmm, I think it was empty when I pulled it out of my bag, but I could have been mistaken.

    I was in a rush to get out yesterday. Had to get back up here to Greeley and help my daughter put the finishing touches on her 5th grade history diorama: The Battle of the Alamo.
     
  18. Did the amount of beers you drank yesterday change the outcome of the battle in the diorama?
     
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  19. Lol, I managed my consumption quite well yesterday considering the caliber of beers being poured both in and outside the taproom.

    I did wear a coon skin hat while we finished.
     
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  20. Domingo

    Domingo Poobah (1,030) Colorado Apr 23, 2005

    It was definitely empty. It was sitting on a table filled with empty bottles for quite a while before I noticed it was still about 1/4 full. I polished it off with a guy who was in town from Oklahoma.
     
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  21. coreymcafee

    coreymcafee Savant (350) Colorado May 30, 2006

    Such a fitting subject after yesterday :)
     
  22. coreymcafee

    coreymcafee Savant (350) Colorado May 30, 2006

    Believe it or not, there were actually two '09 BCBS bombers in the lineup yesterday!
     
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  23. Lol, I told my wife this morning that I might make a diorama of yesterday's release.
     
  24. coreymcafee

    coreymcafee Savant (350) Colorado May 30, 2006

    I think you could just steal your daughter's and put your name on it. "The Battle of 500 Rainbows".
     
  25. RuckusDu

    RuckusDu Savant (425) Colorado Mar 23, 2011

    I really hate to say it, but the solution is to raise prices. Would sour fest sell out instantly if it was $100? Would everyone have bought WWBV if it was $30 a bottle? Does it suck if you can't afford bottles at that expensive of a price? Of course it does, but I would like to do a lot of things I can't afford. Would 50/50 Eclipse be sitting on the shelf if it was $15 a bottle? Probably not but it is nice to know I don't have to follow the delivery truck to get a bottle. Higher prices only require people to make a decision as to what they really like and want.
     
  26. RuckusDu

    RuckusDu Savant (425) Colorado Mar 23, 2011

    BTW, if anyone has an extra Sourfest ticket (or two) they want to trade for a couple bottles of Violet and Volunt, let me know.
     
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  27. joshclauss

    joshclauss Savant (315) Colorado Oct 31, 2010

    I don't necessarily disagree with you on the events, especially where supply is just plain limited, but the solution for Crooked Stave is a bit different, because they can expand production. And that's what's going to happen this summer, which brings with it a whole different set of reasons people will be perpetually dissatisfied.
     
  28. This is definitely one solution. Anyone with a basic understanding of economics knows that many of these limited type release bottles are priced below their true market price. IMO, violet could have been priced anywhere between $20-$25 and they probably would have still sold all of it yesterday, but I know I would have bought fewer bottles.

    We could derail this thread pretty quickly though by entering into the discussion of pricing structure in the craft beer industry.
     
  29. bushmat2

    bushmat2 Aficionado (135) Colorado Feb 18, 2011

    As a follow up to my initial dissapointment, within a few hours of me striking out on the beer myself, I had someone drop me off a few bottles, and 3 more offer bottles to me. This community is awesome.
     
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  30. joshclauss

    joshclauss Savant (315) Colorado Oct 31, 2010

    Bring it!
     
  31. Why is a 750 of slap yer mammy $18? That's like $52 a sixer for a double IPA! ;)
     
  32. joshclauss

    joshclauss Savant (315) Colorado Oct 31, 2010

    When Slap Your Mammy is raining down, you don't question.
     
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  33. ArrogantB

    ArrogantB Advocate (735) Colorado Jun 9, 2006

    boom, roasted!
     
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  34. I was pretty excited for this thread to be created. Love seeing each advocates opinion! Anyone that is extremely upset obviously wasn't drinking beer... just sayin.
     
  35. SalukiAlum

    SalukiAlum Advocate (550) Colorado Dec 19, 2010

    I was really into sharing more than I was trying to get drunk. Honestly, I brought a glass from a beer fest that only filled like 3-4 ounces, so was never really drinking huge pours to begin with. I wasn't actually wasted till I got home and kept drinking :) Otherwise, small pours, lots of conversation, staying hydrated, making sure I ate, and taking small breaks worked fine! As someone said above, I witnesses not one 'wasted' person (just a bunch of happy people!)! No different then tailgating before a football game, everyone has fun in different ways but doesn't mean it's right or wrong just personal decisions that hopefully most are mature enough to make!
    My upcoming June plans if anyone else is going: Burning Can Fest June 1st, Great Divide Anniversary Party June 15th and Epic Beerfest June 29th (pouring the night before)! I'm ready for summer! Cheers.
     
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  36. SalukiAlum

    SalukiAlum Advocate (550) Colorado Dec 19, 2010

    I don't think raising the prices would change anything, whether it was at the release or on shelves. 50/50 is OVERPRICED, there is a difference. It's nice when average people like me can afford good beer!
     
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  37. Mebuzzard

    Mebuzzard Poobah (1,075) Colorado May 19, 2005

    I'll have to disagree with ya on this un har.
    GABF keeps raising prices, and it sells out. RareBeer does, and does.

    The main problems with yesterday were: crowded, slow line, and some didn't get to buy bottles.
    Solutions could be: bigger space, brew more beer, and don't worry about getting bottles. Chances are that at the next bottle share, you'll be able to drink that particular beer. A big part of craft beer is the community. It was an awesome community yesterday. Next time, we can just hang out in "line" and sample some awesome stuff! They could raise the price of CS beers, and I'd still go just to hang out with you peeps...and your beers :cool:
     
  38. Hessma

    Hessma Zealot (80) Colorado Oct 19, 2012

    I got 99 problems and this event ain't one...Hit me'!!
     
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  39. Steve_0

    Steve_0 Savant (295) Colorado Mar 14, 2012

    Funny you say this as a friend was talking about this exact same thing. He said Crooked Stave should just have a "release" every other month, even if they don't release anything, so that we can all go and have an epic bottle share in the parking lot.