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Pisgah Valdez | Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co.
North Carolina, United States | website

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
This robust Coffee Stout is a mouthful of flavor! A dark, roasty grain bill stands as the backdrop for a galaxy of coffee aroma and flavor, made possible by local organic bean roasters Dynamite Roastery. A Pisgah fan favorite, Valdez is brewed bi-annually and never lasts as long as the flavor.

Added by MuenchenerKindl on 11-24-2007

BEER STATS
Reviews:
204
Ratings:
370
Avg:
4.15
pDev:
14.94%
 
 
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Photo of cosmicevan
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

big thanks to hopsleroy for hitting this long time want. enjoyed from a mother earth brewing snifter.

a - poured a watery black that settled into the glass deep and ominous with a tan mocha bubbly head that bubbled away quickly.

s - YUM! gourmet coffee. a fine roast. some chocolate. really just dominated by a really nice gourmet coffee smell. smells fantastic.

t - again, HUGE coffee notes. this is not for the faint of heart. big roast and some hints of bakers chocolate...some nice sweetness. i'm a fan.

m - slightly watery. almost tastes like a watered down coffee. carbonation is soft, body has some porter like char.

o - overall, i'm a BIG fan of this one. it is huge for coffee, but a bit watered down, but still works. not sure what vintage this is, but it doesn't taste anything like what some of the bad reviews boast so there might be bottle variation or even some batch variation? i couldn't have dug this one more.

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.46/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

"Adhering to the strict philosophy of the Pisgah brewers, this mouth watering coffee stout is brewed just miles downstream from America's most beautiful watershed. Brewed with coffee beans from asheville Coffee Roasters, and weighing in at a respectable 6.8% abv, the aroma of fresh coffee leaps from the glass, and finishes slightly dry. Treat yourself to the finest coffee stout this season, Unfiltered for your enjoyment. Respect tradition. Love beer. Treat Yourself!"

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber to a snifter. Served above 48º Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a silk foamy brown tone head with a slightly above average retention. Body is a dark brown with red highlights. Sediment heavy on the bottom, light flecks don't quite settle. Decent head quality, a little crisp and doesn't last long and lacing is thin. A decent appearance but worthy of much more. 3.25

(Smell) I am slightly put off by the aroma, perhaps by its dryness or the acid presence which makes a big part of the aroma. Bitter coffee bean notes forward and a chalky chocolate chip cookie. Earthy hop presence in places. Mild tones of char beyond a generally clean aroma. Relatively light on the nose, with a lesser balance towards sweetness and a bigger emphasis on bitterness and tart black coffee, light on the creamy notes. Most interesting is a doughy dry yeast aroma with some slight notes of tart fruit. The coffee notes are in decent balance with the other aromas in this beer, as there seems plenty of substance to be had. Potency is medium-high. 3.5

(Taste) Most interesting. Front has a fruity juice tartness, followed through with roasty chocolate notes. Mild black mocha coffee finish and a hint of char. Very heavy emphasis on fruit, quite interesting and a bit unusual for my expectations of a coffee stout, but not an unwelcome variation. The balance is actually quite decent and dryness isn't overwhelming. 3.5

(Mouthfeel) Oily slickness with a mild creaminess on the finish. Tartness in the body is really a confusion to the appropriate texture, slickness and creaminess is probably the best bet nonetheless. Body is just shy of medium for an Imperial Stout, medium/high amongst all beers. Alcohol presence is largely concealed. 3.75

(Overall) My thought is that this beer is a bit older than anticipated and that the yeast have had some fun transforming the beer. It wasn't a terrible transformation, just a much fruitier beer than I had anticipated with a bit less coffee and roasty flavors than I had desired. I hope to get a really fresh batch of this beer in the near future so that I can confirm these suspicions, as this beer currently seems unfocused, and perhaps misguided, at the worst. 3.25

Pisgah Brewing Company's
Valdez
3.46/5.00

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Photo of CJS
1.48/5  rDev -64.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

A Looks like a average brew. Creamy head that sticks to the glass.

S Smells stoutish with much roasted coffee aroma.

T Extremely bitter and over carbonated. Most coffee I've ever had in a beer. Raw chocolate undertone with slight creaminess. And a tart sour finish that just doesn't belong.

M Too bitter to really enjoy.

O I would almost think it is infected from the sourness, but their is still a balanced flavor setting in this off flavored cocktail. Could not finish a glass.

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Photo of dirtylou
3.16/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Consumed a few times in the past 2 weeks, both on-tap and bottled

Classification as a Double Stout is quite misleading. The bottled version is over-carbonated and may be confused as *gasp* infected. It just isn't right - fruity and tangy with a metallic finish. On-draft, its an iced coffee overload and is really a nice beer. Unfortunately, the most recent bottling doesn't translate and I was really quite embarrassed to open this for people not familiar with Pisgah.

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Photo of brentk56
3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled January 2009 (discovered today in my cellar)

Appearance: Pours pitch black with a massive, creamy tan head that coats the pint glass with a sheet of lace

Smell: Coffee, coffee and coffee....with sugar; smells like a Cuban coffee

Taste: Cuban coffee with chocolate underneath; the sweeter aspects grow in the middle, with chocolate building in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with creamy carbonation

Overall: While it is a bit too sweet for my palate, that may be a function of age, with the hops falling by the wayside; other than that, the beer has held up pretty well over the past four years

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Photo of brewdude1982
3.92/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: 4.0 this beer has a very light translucence and a deep dark hue
S: 4.5 has an amazing aroma of dark chocolate and cinnamon
T: 4.0 surprisingly hopper than I expected. Very bitter on the end.
MF: 3.0 kind of flat for my taste overall, the body is not as deep as I expected.
O: 3.5 I could have one of these as an ender in an evening but would definitely crash your pallet if an opener. Great smell.

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Photo of tdm168
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - black with a thin brown head that has decent retention

S - coffee and roasted malts

T - also simply coffee and roasted malts

M - smooth, well carbonated, medium to full bodied

At first I was a bit disappointed that this was one-dimensional. Honestly, the one dimension is flavorful and enjoyable so I'm not mad about it. This is a nice coffee stout that you can enjoy on your own or share. I would have it again.

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Photo of plaid75
3.6/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On draft at the brewery.

Poured a deep black hue with a wisp of off white foam.

The smell featured a pure full blown coffee grounds.

The taste consisted of a strong bitter black coffee with elements of charcoal.

The mouthfeel was toward the thinner side of the style.

If you like coffee you'll enjoy this beer. A bit thin on the mouthfeel however.

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Photo of afksports
4.17/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Coffee blammo WOW in the nose right off the bat. Amazing aroma. Absolutely perfect for a coffee stout. Roasted dark coffee, the stout has medium body, lacy appearance, and a clean finish. The taste doesn't match the aroma, unfortunately, as it can't match the coffee bitterness and sweetness, and the water sticks out just a little. That said, it's incredible to smell, and that factor alone keeps you coming back.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours black in color with a finger of tan head. A bit of spicy coffee to go along with lots of roasted malt and maybe a hint of dark chocolate. There is just a bit of vanilla type sweetness. The flavor is slightly sweet but still fairly heavy on the coffee, which adds a little bit of spiciness. Lots of roasted malt and a bit of dark chocolate. Just an okay coffee stout.

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Photo of Dope
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pour a very dark brown with a big fluffy medium brown head. Fades slowly, leaving a decent film of lacing on the glass.

S: Huge coffee aroma. Like fresh roasted beans. Pretty much dominates, maybe a little chocolate creeps in.

T: Oddly not a coffee overload. It's got a bitter coffee flavor up front but then turns into a nice roasted malt char with lots of dark chocolate. Surprisingly well balanced and delicious.

M: Medium bodied, smooth. Bit of coffee bitterness lingers in the mouthfeel.

O: Was expecting a coffee bomb but wow this one surprised me. Wonderfully drinkable stout with a strong and tasty coffee element BUT it's balanced well for a great brew. I'm not even a coffee drinker and I'm pretty "meh" on most coffee beers. This is a must-try for ANY stout lover, but especially a coffee stout lover.

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Photo of Jeffo
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bomber of this one provided by jbeatty. Thanks for the trade man!

From a bomber into a snifter
Vintage: 2010

APPEARANCE: A dark brown pour yields a two finger, medium looking, noisy, crackly, dark tan head with decent retention. Black body, opaque and medium carbonation evident. Head fades to a full film on top. A half wisp and a ring remain until the end leaving some nice lacing down the glass. Very nice looking beer, though noisy heads are never that appealing.

SMELL: Medium strength nose of roasted malts, roasted coffee beans, sweet cream and vanilla notes. A hint of caramel as well. Like a latte or a very milky, creamy coffee. A very nice nose for the age, though is has mellowed quite a bit at this point I fear.

TASTE: Some roasted and caramel malts up front with sweet cream and milky, roasted coffee through the middle into the finish. Sweet cream and vanilla mesh well with the coffee flavors, making it much like a latte, as the nose had advertised. Milder aftertaste of sweet cream, roasted coffee and a light bitterness lingers nicely on the palate. Very nice and appealing, but much like the nose, this has probably mellowed quite a bit over time.

PALATE: Medium body and medium carbonation. Light and creamy smooth on the palate, goes down smooth and finishes slightly dry. Nice and creamy feel.

OVERALL: I wouldn’t call this an imperial stout, but as an American coffee stout, this one is quite nice. I would think the nose and flavor profile was much bolder and forthcoming when the beer was fresh, but after over a year in the bottle, it’s certainly a nice drink; people who enjoy coffee stouts that are more restrained will definitely be extremely pleased with this. I certainly enjoyed this one and the bomber disappeared far too quickly. Thanks again for the brews jbeatty!

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Photo of DCon
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Enjoyed on-tap @ Barley's Taproom & Pizzeria in Asheville, NC for $4. Tapped from an unknown tap handle (since sitting @ a table) into a 16oz Barley's Taproom & Pizzeria Pint Glass.

Aroma- I really got my nose into this one! The strongest roast and burnt coffee aroma was hanging around. Very complexed for the style. Could have gone on and on with the aroma but there is much more to this brew!

Appearance- Received with a 1.5 finger head that stayed for good time. Had the deepest brown color body without becoming black. Then, covered the ENTIRE glass with lace.

Flavor- A good, semi-burnt taste started this one out and then Folger's Coffee (cheap roast) came in the middle. Cool! Easy going malts also. Possibly a Cafe Americano when it comes to it.

Mouthfeel- Medium-Full Bodied, Light Carbonation, Smooth, and creamy. Everything a 2X stout should be (without the warming).

Overall Impression- So wild how I found Folger's coffee in this one! Great taste and supported the style well. I'm hoping to find many of these in bottle to enjoy at another date and bring back for friends in the Midwest.

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Photo of zep9865
3.68/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into Aecht snifter courtesy of aasher. Pours a solid black with mocha-tan foam head that leaves about a quarter-inch.

All kinds of chile on the nose with some coffee and dark chocolate. Am i reviewing an Imperial Stout?

Chile on the nose, just like the smell. Coffee is real solid as is the chocolate. More tangy than one would think.

Carbonation is slightly high for the style, but the coffee and chile help to balance it out.

Decent beer, but too much carbonation and lack of chewiness. Perhaps i should let it warm a little bit more?

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Photo of aasher
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I received this bottle in a huge in person trade with thagr81us down in SC in September. Thanks for hitting this want Calton!

This beer pours a dark chocolate brown I color with a one finger beige head. It poured medium in body. The aromas are rich of fresh coffee grounds and bitter chocolate. The nose is actually quite similar to that of Founders Breakfast Stout. The flavors too, pretty similar to FBS. the coffee and chocolate are both there Ina knock you upside the head type of manner. This beer just isn't nearly as smooth or full in body as FBS but the flavor is very close. I'm taken aback by this one. It's a phenomenal coffee stout and definitely worth trying. This is definitely a beer to seek out.

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Photo of CapitolCrusher
4.72/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

what a nice way to start a new year's when you are seriously jet lagged and have some cotton mouth! thanks for the gift Alex it is very kind of you

poured out into my brandy glass (only appropriate glass i could find) and this beer had very little to no head on it at all. yet i loved the appearance it had an oily black look with just a bit of cappucino head trace in it

smelled like an espresso with a dash of maple syrup in it. wow is this going to be a crazy concoction?

way way roasted in the front then coming at you with coffee in the end and some hops to finish it off. just simply delicious and i loved every sip of it

great mouthfeel almost silky but just enough bubbles to keep it from being too sticky.

this got me wired too! glad i had it as i was feeling pretty droopy at the time. :-) happy new year indeed

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Photo of coreyfmcdonald
3.38/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle poured into a goblet

A: Pours black with a finger of dark tan head. Great retention.

S: Intense roast, burnt coffee, that's about it.

T: Again, intense roast and burnt coffee. Spicy, medium hop bitterness.

M: A bit thin and a tad overcarbonated.

O: I'm thinking this isn't overly fresh. The coffee flavor is no longer fresh, but the stout characteristics are quite nice.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
5/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Comes out of the tap a deep, opaque sable barely a kitten whisker above solid black with a fine-bubbled tan head. Rich, smoky aroma has strong chocolate and quality coffee tones and screams DRINK ME!!! to anybody who appreciates good stouts. Flavor is strongly like high-quality roast coffee with tones of unsweet chocolate, caramel and burnt wood plus a hint of molasses. Full-bodied texture has a strong, persistent tingle and leaves a smoky mocha finish. A must!!!

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Photo of EgadBananas
4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received via round-about trade with mulder1010...thanks Pat (and Nick)!

Pours stout dark, with a surprisingly brown chocolate head. It wasn't massive, but nice looking still. Aroma was big coffee, with an equally big chocolate note and roasted backing. Big chocolate and coffee taste, nicely roasted, with a bitter coffee finish. Had a nice creaminess to it. With the ABV, I'm curious if there's some confusion as to the style here... Either way, this was a shining coffee stout example.

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Photo of homebrew311
4.36/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Received in trade with McNuts. Thanks man!

A: pours deep dark brown, tan colored head, only a collar sticks around, completely opaque, quite dark for a 6.8 % stout.

S: the nose nails the coffee stout thing... huge robust bold roasted coffee intertwined seamlessly with roasted malts and cocoa. Very similar to the nose of Breakfast Stout or Peche Mortel... this is a good thing.

T: tastes starts off with burnt roast, a touch of bitterness from the coffee, this is followed by waves of coffee, espresso, and dark chocolate. The finish is all chocolate with an aftertaste of coffee beans. Delicious.

MF: thin body for style, but not unexpected considering the abv, somewhat high carbonation

O: this one is a winner. Two of my favorite beverages packaged into one. Yum.

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Photo of corby112
4.62/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours pitch black with faint mahogany edges and a one finger beige head that immediately fades into a thin ring.  Sporadic spots of lacing left behind.  
Rosted coffee bean aroma with lots of dark roasted malt and coffee presence. Gourmet coffee is prominent with a nice roastiness without smelling overdone or burnt.  Hints of hazelnut, toffee, chocolate and toast.  Slight liactic cream presence.  

Medium bodied with a blast of smooth, deep roasted coffee that dominates the flavor but never becomes overpowering, abrasive, acrid or burnt.  Hints of hazelnut and toffee as well as some bittersweet dark chocolate and a slight lactic creaminess that balances things out while adding to the palate.  Perfectly balanced and extremely quaffable.  One of the best coffee beer I've had.  

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Photo of jsanford
3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a Tulip Glass.

Poured a bark black with a creamy mocha head. Big, sweet Stout aromas of dark malt, chocolate, coffee, milk, sugar, and cream. Taste is quite similar, getting lots of that coffee-and-cream thing going on. This reminds me a bit of Terrapin's Depth Charge, which is definitely a good thing. Mouthfeel is very creamy, with a medium-full body and solid carbonation. Overall a great coffee Stout, certainly one of the best I've had!

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Photo of xnicknj
4.17/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle poured into snifter - big thanks to CarolinaKevin for this

Pours an opaque black color with a froth of heavily tanned head. Some cloudy retention and a few spots of lacing left behind.

Wonderful scents of coffee beans and roasted warmth. Tones of dark malts, chocolate, and nuttiness. Practically no alcohol scent, a light touch of hops.

Eruption of roasted bean coffee flavor right up front. Nutty and sweet with chocolate and a light touch of molasses. Faint hint of caramel and vanilla as well. Layers of dark malts with roasted warmth. Faint hoppiness towards the finish with more coffee flavor.

Fuller body, higher carbonation, pretty smooth but prickly on the tongue. Really delicious coffee profile on this one, both in the nose and flavor - I'd definitely drink this again.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a snifter)

A- This beer pours a jet black cocoa color with a tan head that boils away after a bit. There is a few tiny bubbles that glide up the side of the glass.

S- The ground coffee has a light breakfast roast quality with some earthy oat note in the finish.

T- The ground coffee has a slightly tart note and a fruity ester quality in the coffee's finish. There is a vegital capsicum flavor without any heat in the finish. A light inky hint lingers on the lips. As the beer warms there is a soft mellow black malt quality that comes through in the finish.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a tight fizz that scrubs the finish and no real alcohol.

O- This beer has some nice mellow coffee flavors but not much stout support and it finishes a bit vegital. As the beer warms the coffee takes on a bit of a stale quality.

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Photo of azdback
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to McNuts for this freebee at an in person pint at Papago.

Poured into a tulip glass. Dark, dark, dark brown in color. No light penetrates this one. Head is three fingers and a beautiful light brown, dolloped on, sticky masterpiece. Lace is starting out like a champ, but doesn't stay around to the end.

Smell is of dark roasted coffee. Not so much coffee grounds or beans, but the aroma you get from fresh brewed coffee. Maybe just a hint of chocolate and some smoke or char.

Taste is kind of like burnt coffee. Not in a bad way though. Just deep roasted flavors that come to me as that. There is ash or smoke flavor there also. End is a bit tart and the taste of a raspberry or cherry. I don't get any chocolate flavors and at 6.8% I defiantly don't get any alcohol.

The mouth is probably where this one falls off for me. For it being called a Double or Imperial Stout it is pretty thin. I could name quite a few Imperial Porters with a better mouth than this. It is thin and watery. More a Porter than an IS.

Overall I was very happy with this. Valdez has an excellent smell and taste, but falls short of the category with it's weak mouth. That being said... I still recommend this to any one that has access.

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Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 204 ratings.
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