Pisgah Valdez | Pisgah Brewing Co.

Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez
BA SCORE
86.4%
Liked This Beer
4.15 w/ 381 ratings
Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co.
North Carolina, United States
pisgahbrewing.com

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
This robust Coffee Stout is a mouthful of flavor! A dark, roasty grain bill stands as the backdrop for a galaxy of coffee aroma and flavor, made possible by local organic bean roasters Dynamite Roastery. A Pisgah fan favorite, Valdez is brewed bi-annually and never lasts as long as the flavor.

Added by MuenchenerKindl on 11-24-2007

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#1,803
Reviews:
207
Ratings:
381
Liked:
329
Avg:
4.15/5
pDev:
10.84%
Alströms:
-
 
 
Wants:
184
Gots:
22
Trade:
1
User Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 381 |  Reviews: 207
Photo of koopa
4.13/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz Bomber Bottled January 09' Consumed January 10'

Appearance: Pours an attractive deep dark brown with a 2 finger light brown crown that shows some retention and lace.

Smell: Chocolate malt, mellowed coffee, roast malt.

Taste: More coffee than chocolate (opposite of nose) and the finish actually tastes like cream! My mind screams "iced coffee" over and over!

Mouthfeel: A touch thick but mighty slick too. Carbonation is ultra fine and comes into play about 2/3 of the way through the swallow.

Drinkability: Easy living!

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Photo of richkrull
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of WeisGuy
4.54/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had the last pint at Barley's in Asheville on Friday, reviewing from a growler.

a - pours nearly black with a two-finger tan head, decent retention, great lacing

s - intense aroma of bittersweet chocolate and espresso...chocolate covered espresso beans, dried blueberries and hints of cherry, no alcohol evident

t - espresso and dark chocolate as on the nose, bitterness and sweetness nicely balanced, mid-palate has more bitter chocolate and espresso with some blueberries thrown in, finish kind of falls off in intensity, but espresso and dark chocolate flavors linger lightly on the palate for quite awhile, along with a cola flavor, not much alcohol detectable

m - medium-bodied, a bit too light bodied for my taste, but not by much, moderate carbonation, finish is well balanced on the palate

d - pretty drinkable for a coffee stout, taste is balanced and complex, relatively easy on the palate, alcohol doesn't overwhelm at all

Excellent coffee stout all around from Pisgah. It'd be nice if they made this a regular release.

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Photo of GbVDave
4.47/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into multiple glasses.

A: Pours a deep, tarry, black. Dark espresso crema colored head on top doesn't retain for very long, but leaves a little lace behind.

S: Holy crap! This smells just like chocolate covered espresso beans. Also along for the ride is blackened malt, dark fruit, and even more coffee and chocolate.

T: See above...nothing else to say.

M: Extremely coating, much like the oil spill from its' namesake oil tanker.

D: A scarily excellent coffee stout. Whew!

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Photo of Iamjeff6
4.24/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of thewimperoo
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

Photo of ncstateplaya
4/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of brewandbbq
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle from January 2009.

Pours opaque black with mahogany edging and a tight beige head. A partial skim coat and roped lacing throughout the glass.

Aromatics lead off with roasted malts, coffee grounds, bitter chocolate, and Oreo shells. A hint of char and smoke follow through.

Medium bodied with a slight chew. Thinnish for the style. The mouthfeel is soft and a bit creamy.

Brownie bits with espresso and chocolate malt start the palate. Medium roast coffee steps forward as well as bakers chocolate and a hint of Kahlua.

Finishes with shades of coffee, chocolate, and a bit of char.

Tasty enough, but I'm left wanting more of everything. The coffee character is a bit meekish and the stout base is rather average.

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Photo of jsanford
3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a Tulip Glass.

Poured a bark black with a creamy mocha head. Big, sweet Stout aromas of dark malt, chocolate, coffee, milk, sugar, and cream. Taste is quite similar, getting lots of that coffee-and-cream thing going on. This reminds me a bit of Terrapin's Depth Charge, which is definitely a good thing. Mouthfeel is very creamy, with a medium-full body and solid carbonation. Overall a great coffee Stout, certainly one of the best I've had!

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Photo of Onenote81
4.16/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Super excited to try this big beer from the boys at Pisgah. Poured into a snifter glass. Pours a thick viscous black with no head on top at all. Nothing. Big roasted coffee scents burst out. This is strong right after popping the cap. Lots of espresso, some milk chocolate, cream, toasted sugar. This smells great. A very good lead-in to drinking this bad boy.

The mouth is very crisp and bubbly...too much so. For this style I prefer big and heavy, as this one is, but it needs to be smoother and a little creamier. Too much carbonation going on. Great roasted coffee flavors all over this. Excellent bitter black coffee balanced with a creamy milky chocolate on the end. Slight grassy hops noted on the finish as well. I like that touch. It claimed to be a coffee beer, and a coffee beer it was. Wow.

*Note: This was my third "coffee" beer in a row (all different styles), and this one was my favorite for sure. One of the best coffee beers I've had in awhile.

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Photo of grover37
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

Photo of Ivanhoes_Backpack
4.07/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a bottle of this and Vortex II in Asheville when I was there in August.

A - dark, almost pitch black, with a off-white head which leaves a nice rim

S - pure coffee, lots of chocolate, had a Founder's Breakfast Stout the next day and the smell was pretty on par with that

T - coffee, chocolate, a bit of tartness up front that maybe shouldn't be there, but pretty subtle, nice semi-dry bitterness on finish

M - maybe a little bit thinner than I expected, tingles the sides of my tongue a bit

O - a beauty coffee stout. Despite having a little age on it the beer still held up well. I assume it would be even better fresh, but as it is, it's one of the nicer coffee stouts I've had in a while

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Photo of Hojaminbag
4.44/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Mikesgroove sent this bottle my way in a recent trade, so thanks go out to him for the chance to sample this beer.

The appearance is a almost black, with hues of very dark brown around the edges. Big brown head that has moderate retention but no lacing is left behind.

Smells a whole lot like coffee. For a coffee stout, I would say that is a good thing though. Lots of malty sweetness in there too. Smells pretty damn good.

Taste is of course very coffee oriented. Sweet, roasted flavors run throughout. Fresh roasted coffee with loads of sweetness are noticeable. Finishes with more coffee that makes the mouthfeel very dry.

This is a nice stout and is pretty drinkable. Great beer overall, glad I got the chance to try it.

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Photo of lemmy187
4.17/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Received as an extra in a trade. Pours dark brown with a finger of mocha head. Nose is full of espresso, chocolate, slight roast, and toffee. Well rounded taste....sweet mocha, bitter chocolate, and a touch of vanilla. Body is medium with low carbs. Pleasantly surprised by this coffee stout....

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Photo of Overlord
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

This will be a day long remembered. Enjoyed this brew with some generous BA'ers.

Poured a muted brown, big tan head. Pretty big head, actually, even when split three ways.

Smells like milk chocolate and coffee ... not really bitter coffee, or espresso, etc., just straight up roasted coffee. Maybe a bit of roasted malt in the aroma.

Taste is primarily coffee, with some roasted malt, and maybe a splash of coffee. This is a fairly straightforward beer. If there's anything unusual about it, it's the lively, well carbonated mouthfeel.

Thanks mikesgroove for the PISGAH!

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Photo of grub
4.45/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

ncvbc hooked me up with this in a recent trade. thanks walter!

64oz growler. sampled april 26/08.

pours very dark brown, nearly black. not quite opaque with a bit of orange showing at the edges of the glass. a big light brown head forms, dropping slowly and leaving spotty lace behind.

aroma is great. lots of coffee. dark chocolate. hints of light citrus. lots of earthy character too. nice light roast, more toasty than burnt. light alcohol. solid malt base.

taste is great. can i get some beer with my coffee? this is definitely a coffee lovers dream beer. lots of coffee. dark chocolate. bit of milk chocolate too. light alcohol. huge cracker and bread malt. caramel. bit of dark fruit too. nice earthy character level. fairly low bitterness level coming across mostly as coffee.

mouthfeel is good. medium-low carbonation level. medium large body. silky smooth.

drinkability is great. nicely balanced. lots of chocolate and coffee. i think you really need to like coffee to appreciate this one. at times the coffee does overshadow the stout beneath, but overall i'm happy with it. it reminds me of mill street coffee porter, but at a slight level above. good stuff!

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Photo of wagenvolks
4.7/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Much is owed to atsprings for the share.
Growler poured into a brandy snifter.

A semi-vigorous pour forms a voluminous head, two inches off the dark body and excellently retained. Head color is a tan-custard hue, and the foamy mass looks solid enough to pluck out of the snifter and throw it across the room. Body is pitch black and opaque, although some transparency is evident when the snifter is tipped and held up to the light. The aroma is equally as enticing, packed with notes of fresh-baked cookie dough, gingerbread, caramel-infused coffee, and fresh ground coffee beans.

Valdez lives up to its name, as it coats the palate with an oily-thick, utterly creamy body that requires substantial chewing with every sip. The flavor is like lukewarm, creamy coffee that has been deliciously fermented. Hazlenut roast rounds out the malt profile, while a perfect bitter coffee bite leaves a lasting impression. The drinkability of Valdez is superior for its style. The complexiy and flavor are almost unparalled (although Big Boss' Coffee Stout runs a close second), and as the beer warms it becomes increasingly delicious. A must try for beer-lovers everywhere.

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Photo of Damian
4.6/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 5

Drank from a 750 mL/1 Pint 9.4 FL. OZ. bottle
Served in a snifter

Acquired in a trade with mikesgroove

The beer poured an absolute pitch black with a small, frothy, coffee-colored head that faded to a thick collar. Large drops of lacing coated the glass.

The aroma was simply amazing. Coffee, coffee and more coffee. Freshly ground coffee beans, to be precise. Sweet, rich and super smooth. Some milk chocolate and vanilla notes came through as well. Usually I do not like one-dimensionality in beers, but in this case it worked.

Like the aroma, the flavor was dominated by coffee. This time, freshly brewed coffee. Super smooth, creamy and rich. Dark chocolate was also noticeable. Semi-sweet. Moderately roasty. Vanilla notes appeared as well, along with a touch of sweet cream. Some leafy hops came through on the semi-dry, roasty finish.

The mouthfeel was the only chink in this beer's armor. At only 6.8% ABV, I was not expecting this beer to be as full bodied as its higher alcohol counterparts, but I never thought it would be quite this thin. The liquid was far too light, fizzy and spritzy for any type of stout, never mind a double.

While the mouthfeel was less than ideal, drinkability was simply off the charts. I cannot remember the last time I had a beer that was so flavorful and still so quaffable. The moderate 6.8% ABV was hardly detectable.

With such a low alcohol content, I am uncertain as to why this beer is listed as a double stout. It seemed more like a full-flavored, coffee stout. In any case, this is an outstanding brew, albeit very coffee-centric. Definitely one of the tastiest stouts I have tried in a while and probably the most drinkable example of the style I have yet to sample. Finally, an organic beer that deserves some praise!

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Photo of rangerred
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass out of a 22oz bomber.

Pours pitch black with a one finger dark tan head. Very good head retention with ok lacing.

Aroma is all about the coffee. Lots of medium roast coffee with hints of dark chocolate and dark roasted malt. Some caramel in there too. It is really hard to get past the coffee, though, but it is inviting.

The taste is more and more coffee. Some milk chocolate and caramel/toffee. Really the perfect blend of coffee and chocolate with no one character being too overpowering. Bitterness is very light but this beer is not too sweet either so it balances out nicely.

Overall, a very well done beer from Pisgah. Wish I would have picked up more than one.

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Photo of Crosling
3.51/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Black colored ale, with ruby edges. Very frothy head varies in color from light tan to dark tan. One dimensional nose smells of espresso, but lacks malt aromatics. Flavor has some complexity to it and tastes nice, but is still dominated by the coffee addition and doesn't have much malt depth. That being said, it's suave and has some finesse to it. It even finishes pretty well. It's a nice ale.

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Photo of babaracas
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at the Pisgah tasting room in a shaker pint. Black with thin medium brown head, spotty lace. Smell: big roasted coffee, roasted grain, toffee, a little green earthy hopping. Coffee forward, nice. Taste: caramel, coffee, booze. Nice. Light carbonation.

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Photo of atsprings
4.97/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours a nice jet black with a decent tan head that diminishes to a lasting thin layer. Aroma is dominated by fresh ground coffee, just a hint of chocolate tries to poke through, but really cannot surpass the coffee at all. The taste is a coffee lovers dream. As others had said in their reviews, it's almost hard to tell that this is beer. The mouth has a great dryness and is very smooth with only a slight alcohol presence. This is an absolutely spectacular beer, another great one from the guys at Pisgah.

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Photo of jampics2
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Growler into a snifter. Thanks to Kevin for bringing this back from Pisgah. I've wanted to try this for a while.

Is it named for the coffee maker or the oil tanker?  Maybe both!  Valdez is a pitch black beer with a dark tan head. It has good retention considering its a coffee stout (I find it's really hard to get the foam to stick due to the oil from the coffee beans unless you are Surly, but Coffee Bender is a freak of nature); we are left with a ring and film with spotty lace after a while.  A swirl reawakens the head.   

Valdez smells prominently of coffee, really rich and strong coffee. Some earthy character is reflected in the grounds, but this is super fresh and pleasant not stale. A bit of caramel sweetness, chocolate and just a hint of creamy vanilla compliment and round out an excellent nose.    

Valdez is full of great coffee through and through. Some dark French roast espresso reaches a peak of bitterness then sweet chocolate, vanilla, and caramel come in the picture.  The powerful tasting experience finishes with lingering swetness and a touch of lingering coffee bitterness.  While this is well above average, it falls short of the top tier - simply put, I just would like more roast from the malt. Otherwise, the coffee and sweet malt are nice and this is very good!    

This beer is a touch thin but nice overall. It has medium body with medium to heavy carb for a stout. For a 6.5% stout, this is probably acceptable but for the 'Imperial/Double' style I expect more creaminess. The finish is sweet and bitter and a touch dry. Overall, Pisgah Vortex is an excellent beer. I had a growler basically to myself with just a touch of help from the wife and it never got to be a chore.  A great coffee beer - straight-up, no gimmicks, very expressive and very pleasant.  Now there are three famous Valdez's - Juan, Exxon, and Pisgah!    

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Photo of FriedSlug
4.27/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Super dark with a nice tan head that leaves lacing after it dissipates. It is difficult to detect anything other than coffee and sweetness in the nose as the coffee is huge. The taste is a bit different than the nose. While the coffee and malty sweetness are there as the prominent flavors a burnt taste comes in to wash them away. This acrid taste is a bit strong. The mouthfeel is creamy and smooth with a pleasant level of carbonation that feels slightly lower than I expected.

Update 7/24/16: Changes to palate and nose reflected here. Nose is sweet roasted malts with coffee and an almost maple like sweetness. Coffee is big in the nose but pleasant. The taste has a nice roasty twang with coffee and a bit of sweetness that makes this taste like a sweetened, creamy, iced coffee.

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Photo of lackenhauser
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first sample from this brewery. Pours a deep black color with a huge, huge head. Almsot seems infected by the overcarbonation but I tend to think it is just the beer itself. Head has to be 2 inches thick. Ok aroma-the coffe smell is offset by a somewhat metallic and oxidized tinge. Solid roasted malt and coffee flavors dominate. Sort of grainy. Decent mouthfeel-finish is rather dry actually. A decent enough beer. Lacks whatever is needed to push it over the top.

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Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 86.4% out of 100 with 381 ratings
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