Pisgah Valdez | Pisgah Brewing Co.

Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez
BA SCORE
4.15/5
381 Ratings
Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co.
North Carolina, United States
pisgahbrewing.com

Style: American Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
This robust Coffee Stout is a mouthful of flavor! A dark, roasty grain bill stands as the backdrop for a galaxy of coffee aroma and flavor, made possible by local organic bean roasters Dynamite Roastery. A Pisgah fan favorite, Valdez is brewed bi-annually and never lasts as long as the flavor.

Added by MuenchenerKindl on 11-24-2007

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#1,824
Reviews:
207
Ratings:
381
pDev:
10.84%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
184
Gots:
22
Trade:
1
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Ratings: 381 |  Reviews: 207
Photo of DefenCorps
4.15/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thank you, Mike, for a hand-delivered treat! January 2009 bottling

A: We have a rather massive gusher, resulting in a black beer with an overwhelmingly large dark brown head. Retention isn't all that hot, but this beer looks good allasame

S: Coffee. Freshly brewed, mellow and complex. Cold pressed? Some chocolate is present in the back, lending a decadent note to this beer. Pleasant roastiness. Quite awesome, really. As pronounced as the coffee is, there's enough going on behind it to keep this beer interesting.

T: Tastes like coffee. Just pure coffee. I usually dislike one-dimensional beers but this is one crazy good cuppa. Beautiful medium roast coffee with a little bit of chocolate. As a stout, this isn't all that great, but as a beer? Great. Finishes dry, long and bitter

M: Light with soft carbonation and a finish that's brilliant, this one's awesome. The pure coffee bitterness is netherworldly

D: This bomber is going in about 20 minutes, which isn't a great sign for me.

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Photo of n2185
4.14/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours black with about a finger of chocolate-colored head that quickly recedes into a thin ring with a little lacing.

S: There are some roasted malt and chocolate aromas in there, but mostly it's just coffee. Full-bodied, rich, dark-roasted coffee.

T: Very similar to the aroma, this beer is just bursting with rich, dark-roasted coffee flavors. There are touches of roasted malt and chocolate, but mostly coffee. The finish is surprisingly smooth and not bitter.

M: Medium-thick body with low-medium carbonation, this beer is thick and creamy.

D: This beer goes down very easily. It's a pretty simple beer, tasting more like a glass of high quality iced coffee with carbonation than a beer. Very straight-forward, but very good as well.

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Photo of maximum12
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mikesgroove & ncvbc who offered me up bottles of this during the winter. Happy to try any coffee-upped stout, especially one with such a good rep. This one was bottled in September 2008. Bring me coffee!

Valdez is black, & very bubbly with a significant head on him. Smell is aggressively coffee as soon as the cork pops. Intersestingly, once it settles into the tulip, the nose simmers down quite a bit.

This is what coffee should taste like for those of us who don't dig it! The coffee taste is there, & fairly pronouned, but isn't drowning the baby beer behind it. The carbonation creates a definite bubbling in the mouth...other than that, I can't pick out anything in particular. It's just good. Weird. There's a solid body behind it of, well, something. And it's a good one.

All in all a very good beer. This one comes off as a beer that could be extreme, but's not, & that's just fine. Fits it's style alright.

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Photo of DrJay
3.63/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Got this one recently from mikesgroove. Thanks!
Pretty much black, can't see through it even held up to the light. Longlasting, creamy brown cap. Lots of sticky lacing. Looks great! Tons of roast and coffee in the aroma, along with notes of toffee, lots of malt, and faint grassy hops. Moderate hop bitterness with some grassy, spicy presence. Fairly sweet, a little fruity up front, roast and coffee throughout. Dry cocoa. A little more than medium bodied with decent carbonation, mild alcohol warmth, and very dry. Pretty good overall. A little too dry, but still tasty.

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Photo of cosmicevan
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

big thanks to hopsleroy for hitting this long time want. enjoyed from a mother earth brewing snifter.

a - poured a watery black that settled into the glass deep and ominous with a tan mocha bubbly head that bubbled away quickly.

s - YUM! gourmet coffee. a fine roast. some chocolate. really just dominated by a really nice gourmet coffee smell. smells fantastic.

t - again, HUGE coffee notes. this is not for the faint of heart. big roast and some hints of bakers chocolate...some nice sweetness. i'm a fan.

m - slightly watery. almost tastes like a watered down coffee. carbonation is soft, body has some porter like char.

o - overall, i'm a BIG fan of this one. it is huge for coffee, but a bit watered down, but still works. not sure what vintage this is, but it doesn't taste anything like what some of the bad reviews boast so there might be bottle variation or even some batch variation? i couldn't have dug this one more.

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Photo of Viggo
4.47/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to grub for opening his growler of this on DLD!

Pours a dark opaque brown, almost black, some red, thick medium brown head forms, decent lacing. Smell is coffee, oats, caramel, some chocolate, more coffee, biscuity bread coffee elixir. Taste is similar, tons of coffee and chocolate, coffee roast, big malty middle, grains and oats, big coffee finish, very smooth and very drinkable, no rough edges on this guy. Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with low carbonation, goes down easy. Probably the last coherent review I'll get from that evening, fantastic use of coffee in this one. Thanks Russ!

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Photo of Bung
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 oz. Almost black pour with a tan head. Not a lot of lacing. Aroma is roasty, coffee and malt, more coffee. Mouthfeel it a little thin, but still medium bodied. Taste has coffee and bakers chocolate all around. Nice roast coffee/espresso finish. A very pleasant coffee stout and drinkable with a low abv for an Imperial. As much as I mentioned coffee it is by no means overdone. Worth trying it you can get your hands on it.

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Photo of jrallen34
4.32/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle provided by Nate, drank from my Hill Farmstead glass... Dark brown with a nice light tan head, good retention and lacing... The aroma is tons of fresh coffee, has the Intelligentsia of HBI... The taste is equally nice, good light coffee but its fresh. Super easy to drink.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
4.38/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a Pisgah bomber, in my possession since DLD this year, capped not corked. The label shows it's organic which doesn't really matter to me at all. The beer was dark brown chocolate color with a thick off-white foam that lasted forever. I figured the coffee aroma/taste would be lost in this old bottle but it came through nicely. The java smell is actually complementary to some malts that are more sweet than roasted in character, together the malts and coffee come off very close to Founders Breakfast Stout. Same with the taste, I found this to taste a bit like an aged FBS (which is a good thing, I've had some old FBS that was better than the new stuff). The body is on the thick side which suits the style, overall a very fine coffee stout that I'd love to get again.

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Photo of mrfrancis
4.06/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of glid02
4.38/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked this up from Bruisin' Ales in Asheville, NC - if I were smarter I would've picked up more than one.

Pours pitch black with a two-finger dark tan head. The head recedes into a thin pancake on top leaving solid lacing.

Smells of creamy roasted coffee with hints of roasted malts in the background. A smell of things to come.

Tastes similar to how it smells, though a bit more complex. Roasted coffee flavors kick things off, with roasted malts coming in shortly. Near the end of the sip there's a good deal of dark chocolate that appears right before the mildly bitter, mildly dry ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a very nice thickness with mild carbonation that makes this go down very smoothly.

Drinkability is good. I could have finished this a lot quicker but I've been forcing myself to slow down and smell the malts.

Overall this is a very well done coffee stout that's definitely worth a shot.

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Photo of Zazzi82
4.06/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of WOLFGANG
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of dirtylou
3.16/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Consumed a few times in the past 2 weeks, both on-tap and bottled

Classification as a Double Stout is quite misleading. The bottled version is over-carbonated and may be confused as *gasp* infected. It just isn't right - fruity and tangy with a metallic finish. On-draft, its an iced coffee overload and is really a nice beer. Unfortunately, the most recent bottling doesn't translate and I was really quite embarrassed to open this for people not familiar with Pisgah.

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Photo of Pencible
4.15/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured pitch black with a bit of tan head.
S: It smelled like lots of coffee, with a little cream and vanilla.
T: It tasted like strong coffee, with a bit of dark chocolate and cream and sugary vanilla. It had a lasting bitter aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. A bit too light.
D: This was up there with Peche Mortel and Brunch Weasel for super strong coffee beers. Very nice scent and taste, but the body was sort of weak. Easy enough to drink anyway, as long as you like coffee. Nice beer.

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Photo of xnicknj
4.17/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle poured into snifter - big thanks to CarolinaKevin for this

Pours an opaque black color with a froth of heavily tanned head. Some cloudy retention and a few spots of lacing left behind.

Wonderful scents of coffee beans and roasted warmth. Tones of dark malts, chocolate, and nuttiness. Practically no alcohol scent, a light touch of hops.

Eruption of roasted bean coffee flavor right up front. Nutty and sweet with chocolate and a light touch of molasses. Faint hint of caramel and vanilla as well. Layers of dark malts with roasted warmth. Faint hoppiness towards the finish with more coffee flavor.

Fuller body, higher carbonation, pretty smooth but prickly on the tongue. Really delicious coffee profile on this one, both in the nose and flavor - I'd definitely drink this again.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
5/5  rDev +20.5%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Comes out of the tap a deep, opaque sable barely a kitten whisker above solid black with a fine-bubbled tan head. Rich, smoky aroma has strong chocolate and quality coffee tones and screams DRINK ME!!! to anybody who appreciates good stouts. Flavor is strongly like high-quality roast coffee with tones of unsweet chocolate, caramel and burnt wood plus a hint of molasses. Full-bodied texture has a strong, persistent tingle and leaves a smoky mocha finish. A must!!!

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Photo of Dope
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pour a very dark brown with a big fluffy medium brown head. Fades slowly, leaving a decent film of lacing on the glass.

S: Huge coffee aroma. Like fresh roasted beans. Pretty much dominates, maybe a little chocolate creeps in.

T: Oddly not a coffee overload. It's got a bitter coffee flavor up front but then turns into a nice roasted malt char with lots of dark chocolate. Surprisingly well balanced and delicious.

M: Medium bodied, smooth. Bit of coffee bitterness lingers in the mouthfeel.

O: Was expecting a coffee bomb but wow this one surprised me. Wonderfully drinkable stout with a strong and tasty coffee element BUT it's balanced well for a great brew. I'm not even a coffee drinker and I'm pretty "meh" on most coffee beers. This is a must-try for ANY stout lover, but especially a coffee stout lover.

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Photo of bsuedekum
3/5  rDev -27.7%

Photo of KevinGordon
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

Photo of thagr81us
4.09/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had during an afternoon ticking session at Pisgah! Served from tap into a sampler imperial pint. Poured a massively dark brown (basically black) with a half finger khaki-colored head that subsided to a minimal amount slowly. Maintained phenomenal lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt and coffee. The flavor was of sweet malt, coffee, and earth. It had a medium feel on the palate with medium carbonation. Overall this was a pretty good brew. Three words though: HOLY CHRIST COFFEE! In all honesty, I don't drink coffee but if I were to start I would use this as a gateway for sure as I'm sure it would work. I would plan to share this one with coffee drinking friends as a gateway for them into craft beer. Still quite nice, but the coffee most definitely covered up a lot of the subtlies that were probably present in this brew.

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Photo of popery
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of AgentZero
4.42/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to chawk for hooking this one up. Served at our Night of Fedor tasting with the Chicago Crew.

A - Black beer with a brown head. Decent lacing, pretty nice looking brew.

S - Rich coffee on this, very strong aroma profile for a something that is less than 7% abv. Good roasted note with a little bit of burnt cocoa.

T - Roasted malts, awesome coffee profile. This is really how a coffee beer should be done. Great bitterness combined with a sweetness from the burnt cocoa. Great beer all around.

M - Full bodied, nice dose of carbonation for the style.

D - So good, could drink tons of it. Would love to have this beer again and highly recommend it to others.

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Photo of wedge
3.6/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

September 2008

Black with a slight sliver of brown at the bottom of the glass. Tall, loosely foamy brown head. Coffee, milk, and sugar aromas upfront with some chocolaty roastiness. Roasted coffee and cream flavors...sweet and tasty...but there's no depth. Take away the coffee and would this be a quality stout? Medium bodied and way too carbonated for the style. A slight bit of warming in the throat which is confusing considering the low ABV.

I love coffee, I love coffee stouts...this one was disappointing. Not anything remotely close to an Imperial Stout either, though I don't think it's supposed to be. Maybe it's just this batch, but this beer is highly overrated.

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Photo of cp45
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 4.15 out of 5 with 381 ratings
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