Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carlsberg Sverige AB

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

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Reviews: 356 | Ratings: 594
Photo of jlindros
4.09/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours a tan medium-small fizzy head that fades at a med pace, a bit of lacing, dark mahogany brown almost opaque color

Nose very Baltic region porter, very similar aroma to almost all true Baltic's I've had, that unique fruit with a strange almost stale bread cereal and mild roasty notes hinting at metallic, a touch of chocolate, little earthy molasses

Taste again Baltic region with the raisin bread, stale bread mostly with some cereal as well, but then sweet molasses and a little nutty, earthy raw molasses sugar cane like, with light roasty notes and again hinting at metallic but never quite there, little bitterness from earthy spicy hops and a bit of roasty bitterness, more of the unique dark fruits and a lager like fruit note, and some interesting cocoa mixed in, sticky sweet finish

Mouth is med to fuller bod, good medium to a bit higher carb

Overall very classic Baltic Porter from the region, like Baltika, the unique fruits, lots of bread stale mostly, cereal, molasses, etc, true to style although not necessarily my fav representation of it

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Photo of beergoot
4.09/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Deep, dark mahogany color; decent head, lots of clinging foam along the glass. Excellent aroma, filled with notes of charred grain, figs and dates, cocoa. Rich chocolate flavors with a strong vanilla and mocha components. Full bodied, smooth and lush on the tongue; deep sweetness at the finish.

A fine porter overall, rich and decadent with the taste and leaving a buttery, sweet chocolate coating on the palate from start to finish. The ABV would be on the low side for a Baltic porter, but with such classic flavors and sublime mouthfeel, the alcohol range is really immaterial. A very satisfying porter.

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Photo of dbrauneis
4.04/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Note: 2014 Vintage

A: Pours an opaque yet still clear extremely dark brown, approaching jet black in color with light to moderate amounts of active visible carbonation rising along the edges of the glass and faint very dark cola brown colored highlights. The beer has a two finger tall sudsy foamy dark tan head that reduces to a large patch of semi-mottled thin film covering the majority of the surface (~90%) of the beer with a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Slightly stronger than moderate aromas of dark + roasted malts with moderate aromas of chocolate malts and molasses. Light aromas of dark fruits + licorice.

T: Upfront there are slightly stronger than moderate flavors of dark + roasted malts with moderate flavors of chocolate malts and moderate molasses sweetness. Light flavors of dark fruit (plum + fig) and licorice. Light amounts of earthy hops which impart a light amount of bitterness which does not linger.

M: Just shy of medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth but slightly thin/watery.

O: Drinks easily, especially for the style - I could definitely have a couple of these in a session. Nice flavors and aromas without much alcohol presence at all.

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Photo of tone77
3.49/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a brown 11.2 oz. bottle. Has a cola color with a tiny head. Smell is of chocolate, roasted malts. Taste is roasted malts, smoke, some chocolate, light sweetness. Feels medium/light bodied in the mouth and overall is a decent beer, but I was hoping for more.

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Photo of GuyFawkes
4.5/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a glass.

Brown liquid; ruby & slightly see-through when held to the light.

Nice khaki head; spotty lacing.

Dark fruit & coffee in the nose.

A creamy, medium mouthfeel.

Dark fruits & coffee in the flavor, this is rich, flavorful & pretty wonderful. A home run. Tastes like a well-rendered English porter to me, but who am I to complain...

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Photo of StowePublicHouse
4.14/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a shaker glass. Nice initial light tan colored foam about one finger thick. Color is very dark ruby/black. Aroma of dark roasted malts, sweet, with a hint of coffee. Taste like a well brewed Porter! Dark roasted malts, toasted malts, and low bitterness. Mouth feel medium bodied and smooth. Overall this is a great Porter from Sweden!

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Photo of craftbeersweden
3.45/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

2016 Edition.

The beer pors clear, dark brown with a one finger high beige head that leaves lacing on the glass.

Nose: Roasted malt, caramel, chocolate, fudge, vanilla, hops and coffee. A soft, sweet and nice aroma!
Taste: Brown sugar, vanilla, caramel malt, dark bread and coffee.
Mouth: Medium body. Medium carbonation. Soft but little light texture. Sweet / dry ending.

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Photo of Dope
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Don't see any date on this one so who knows.

A: Pours black with a small thick head. Excellent lacing and head retention.

S: Huh, not what I expected. Sweet and fruity period. Overripe dark fruits and some silky caramel with just a touch of chocolate syrup. No sign of anything roasted/toasted. Not bad, just unexpected.

T: Chocolate and overripe dark fruits. Caramel sweetness with chocolate syrup in the finish. A hint of char lingers in the aftertaste. Has almost a root beer flavor in the aftertaste sometimes.

M: Medium bodied, smooth.

O: Interesting one. A LOT of caramel for a baltic porter, backed with dark fruits. It's smooth and drinkable but definitely unique with the heavy dominant caramel.

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Photo of teromous
2.86/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

I don't see any kind of bottle or import date. It does say 2014 on the front of the bottle.

Appearance: Black body with a short but creamy and fluffy light khaki head. Good retention. It did not form any lacing when I first started drinking the beer but about halfway down the glass it slowly started to build a sheet as the head receded.

Aroma: Light caramel mixed with a metallic scent. Some alcohol aroma. Not the best start but the caramel does smell nice. As the glass sits the metallic aroma starts to fade away and gives leeway to more caramel. It also starts to open up and give a bit of pine resin aroma. I really recommend letting the beer sit (after being poured) as it improves greatly with some time.

Taste: There isn't a whole lot of flavor here. It tastes a bit like caramel flavored water. There is a bit of a charcoal finish but it leaves a lot to be desired.

Mouthfeel: It is very easy to drink but it lacks that crispness and sharpness that I enjoy in a good Baltic Porter.

Overall: It's not really a beer that I would recommend. It just lacks a lot of flavor and it feels empty. The back label says "Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then." If so, I feel sorry for the people of 1836 because it tastes like watered down Malta Goya. There are much better Baltic Porters on the market and I would recommend looking elsewhere.

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Photo of puboflyons
4.37/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

From the 12 fl. oz. bottle that has a 2014 date but not clear to me if it as old as that. Sampled on May 22, 2016. My 2,700th rating.

Dark brown to near black pour with a short-lived tan head.

Aroma of caramel malts, sweetness, toffee, dark roasted malts, and a low earthy hop presence. Really inviting.

Medium to bold body but incredibly smooth and creamy.

Very forward sweet roasted malt character with dark malts, a little chocolate, and a mild bitter finish. This was said to be one of Beer Connoisseur Michael Jackson's favorite beers and I can see why.

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Photo of Libeertarian
3.74/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

From notes taken 05/01/16:

Dark brown, either very dark or barely clear. Tan, fluffy head of moderate to good retention. Patchy lace ringlets. Roasted grain and dark fruit esters to nose. Roasty, dark fruity, smokey-tart palate, in that order. Also, earthy to tobacco-like hopping, throughout but most prominent in finish. Medium to full in body, sloshy and sudsy, but syrupy

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Photo of WoodBrew
3.85/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

The Carnegie Porter is solid.....middle of the road light English like porter. It poured an deep mahogany with white head that left some lace. The scent was roast and peat. The taste had earth, roast and a touch of grenadine. The mouthfeel was lighter in body with decent carbonation. Overall it was good.

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Photo of Beginner2
4.43/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This has become an old friend. (And is better than a few of them, too.)
I am very close to the Alstrom Bros on this rating. I see no need to repeat.
When American porters get this subtle in blending sweet and bitter, we will have arrived.

Reviewed in Roger Protz' " 300 Beers To Try Before You Die!"
Also on the bucket-list of "1001". Definitely do not miss this one.

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Photo of BeerWithMike
4.52/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled back on 2/5/16. Comes in a single 330ml (11.2 ounce) bottle for $3.50 from Spirit World in Omaha. Bottle chilled down to 36 degrees F in my beer cooler and poured in to a snifter glass.

Brew pours pitch-black in color with close to a 1-finger foamy beige head. A decent amount of sticky lacing was seen when sipped that stayed in place on the glass. Aroma is of dark roasted malts, dark fruits (cherry) with a hint of chocolate and coffee even. Bit more going on with the taste was there is a hint of caramel malt and maybe molasses as well. Very smooth and so very good. No bitterness is noted. Medium+-bodied with perfect carbonation. A fantastic brew from Sweden which is probably my first from that country. Worth trying for sure if you can find it.

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Photo of Ninjakillzu
4.71/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

L: Poured into a Pint Defiance tulip. Body is a very dark brown with a thin tan ring around the glass.

S: Smells like a Belgian strong dark or a scotch ale. Caramel malt, dark fruits, roasted coffee, and dark chocolate.

T: Same as the nose. The roastiness is more apparent.

F: Medium light bodied with mild carbonation. Body is a bit watery on the finish.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.41/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

It is not often that I get excited about the prospect of reducing to Beer Backlog here as Chez Woody, but this one has me jazzed! I so rarely get to try Swedish beers & the double-plus bonus of a Baltic Porter really revs my engine.

From the bottle: "Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then. Carnegie Porter has a creamy head with a scent of coffee. Its sweet and wellrounded [sic] flavor is balanced by the bitterness of the hops. Storage helps the flavor mature and enhances its harmony."

I Pop!ped the cap and gave it a pretty solid pour, resulting in a finger of fizzy, light-tan head with moderate retention, falling away to a skim of wisps. Color was Dark Brown to Very Dark Brown (SRM = > 27, < 34) with NE-quality clarity and garnet highlights. Nose was redolent with notes of: smoke; caramel; dark chocolate; dried, dark cherries and molasses. Yow! Mouthfeel was medium-to-full, not quite creamy, but near it. The taste was great - leathery with a cherry flavor, followed by a dark chocolate richness. I find 5.5% VERY hard to believe, Mr. Smart! Would you believe that the entire building is surrounded by a troop of angry Boy Scouts, each one armed with a loaded slingshot? Enough of this tomfoolery! Finish was semi-sweet, close to semi-dry, but not quite there. Jeez, Louise, I really like this beer!

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Photo of stevoj
3.37/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle from Boise Coop. Right in the wheelhouse for a classic porter. Dark, sweet and malty, pour has nice fluffy head which leaves streaky lacing. Nose is sweet malt, leading into flavors of molasses, peat and sweet malts. Classic porter.

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Photo of Smakawhat
4.24/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from the bottle into a nonic pint glass.

Deep walnut brown, with a very nice ruby edge for the body color. Head manages only about a finger tall on the pour, no lacing, but a fine milky tan color head and mixed soapy to creamy top. A bit of ring lace manages to stick around in places.

Really interesting nose. Mild clove notes and sticky almost licorice like qualities. Hints more to molasses but not as strong, with a real thick sensation. Bakery like almost pumpernickel and thick dough, a real dark unleavened bread sensation permeates throughout. Very neat and inviting but also quite unexpected. Almost a bit of meat jerky like quality aromas as well.

Palate brings much of the same and a good amount of pleasure. Light bodied simple classic roast qualities, but hints of mild molasses and licorice in the mid palate not unlike the the expected nose. A real nice controlled sweetness that comes somewhere between sweet milk and molasses. Creamy light finish with a mouthfeel and flavor that hints at a much bigger brew than the abv would indicate as well. Chewy, with a distinct palate for a porter. Bit of a prickly carbonation finish that also kicks in amongst the thick body too.

Very interesting classic unique brew. Hard to nail this one down, it's in it's own little space for sure.

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Photo of jzlyo
3.51/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Aroma is dark malts, toffee and, annoying, cola. The flavor is dark malts, toffee/caramel, the same annoying slight cola, mild chocolate and an acidic/slightly sweet finish. Definitely could've done without the cola, although it did fade thankfully.

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Photo of Jwale73
3.66/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle served in a can glass. Best before 30 October 15 printed on the back label. Pours the color and clarity of cola with a loose, 1/8th inch, khaki-colored head the quickly disperses into an oily slick and a thin tight band around the shoulders. Nose is slightly vinous, but I also get dark fruits and carob. Taste consistent with nose - fairly dull and subdued with a slight, wet cardboard presence. Mouthfeel is light in body with a mild, even carbonation. All and all, decent but perhaps past its prime. I'll have to try to procure a fresher bottle and update my notes. Not recommended for extended cellaring.

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Photo of pat61
4.75/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

L: Pours brilliant deep dark brown with a thin, clingy tan cap.
S: Chocolate, light coffee.
T: Starts slight sweet and ends dry, some dried fruit – mostly prune, no burnt or harsh roast flavors, moderately bitter. Light tartness on the finish.
F: Creamy, clean and smooth with above average carbonation and medium body.
O: Clean, smooth, easy to drink Baltic Porter.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
4.05/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a dark brown color with two fingers of a cream colored head. The head has a good level of retention, slowly fading to leave a great level of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma of the beer is quite heavy of a sweeter molasses and caramel smell along with some other nice roasty notes. Along with these smells comes some darker fruit aromas of prune and plum as well as some other aromas of chocolate and a little bit of a grainy smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a smooth and sweet taste with lots of caramel and chocolate mixed with a little bit of a dark fruit flavors of plum and prune. Other notes of a roasted malt taste are also present upfront, creating a nice smooth base flavor for the brew. As the taste advances the fruit fades a little bit all while more and more caramel and chocolate as well as some molasses comes to the tongue. With a hint of vanilla and a tiny bit of an herbal flavor coming at the very end, one is left with a sweet and smooth, roasty flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is on the average side in terms of its thickness and creaminess with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower side. For the porter style and the darker but sweet flavors of the brew, the feel is rather nice and makes for a flavorful, but easy drinking porter overall.

Overall – This is a very nice easy drinking porter at of only 5.5 %. A quite tasty brew overall and one to try if you have the opportunity.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.36/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle $3.99. I remember reading this was a classic porter so why not. Black with a filmy head that laces the glass. Aroma is yeast and dough. Flavor is slightly smoky, roast malts, touch of chocolate. Not my favorite but not bad, worth a try.

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Photo of tillmac62
4.35/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2010 vintage. Pours a clear dark amber with a rich dark ruby cast. Excellent head volume, lacing and retention. Complex nose of dark fruit (fig, plum), molasses and caramel over notes of chocolate and a hint of coffee. Light medium body with a bit of creaminess over a smooth texture. Normal carbonation with a bit of effervescence in the middle and a nice burst in the finish. The World Class flavor profile is reasonably intense, quite complex and masterfully balanced. It begins with a caramel sweet rush that soon flows into the dark fruits. In the middle, molasses comes to the forefront and fades into a mild roast and hop bitterness. As it approaches the finish, chocolate sweetness is evident and oak notes (oxidative aging) are present as is a subtle smokiness. The finish is a slow fade of sweetness into a mild hop bitterness with just a hint of dryness.

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Photo of WoodButcher
4.24/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A: dark black/brown with only a hint of ruby color when held up to the light. Head is thick and creamy, slow to dissipate leaving lacing on the glass.

S: prunes/plums, with a bit of tobacco and chocolate. Smells of molasses.

T: similar to smell, there are lots of dark notes with prunes, molasses and a hint of chocolate and a bit of burnt character, but only slightly. This reminds me of a German double bock rather than a porter with the earthy, molasses finish. Plenty of malt character but not cloyingly sweet like some porters. A delayed, mildly bitter finish rounds out the palate.

Notes: served from an 11.2oz bottle into a pint, mouthfeel is a bit more sharply carbonated than I expected. That is the only thing I didn't care for, but it wasn't bad, merely unexpected. And once I adjusted to the more double bock taste than anticipated I was able to enjoy it. Not surprising given it is a Swede. In fact, it is nice to enjoy a beer from somewhere other than the usual suspects. At 5.5% and a bit rich I won't be quaffing pints, but this is a very enjoyable beer and worth seeking out. Throw some beer love Sweden's way.

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