Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
582
Reviews:
354
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
10.68%
 
 
Wants:
66
Gots:
44
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Photo of Phillyduke
4.79/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2001 Vintage with a "Best Before" date of 2010. The second label on the back of the bottle covering the original one leads me to believe this might have been one of the last batches to roll off the Pripps Bryggerier line. Comparing my thoughts with current reviewers, I think this may in fact be the case. Beer is a dark sienna brown and ever so slightly translucent with a fizzy light head that quickly recedes leaving an oily residue on the surface. No lacing to speak of. Not a hint of oxidation after 8 years in the bottle is remarkable for a beer of only 5.5% ABV. Smell is deep, dark, rich and inviting, with hints of chocolate, caramel and coffee.

Taste is out of this world! Medium-bodied with a velvety carbonation that seems to dissolve instantly in the mouth. My palate is coated by rich caramel malts and chocolate, with a bitter coffee finish. Taste wanders between syrupy sweet and roasted/burnt grains. Finish is long and lingers on the tongue, inviting another sip. Before I know it I'm at the bottom of the glass. I can't imagine a porter tasting any better than this.

It's a shame that current reviews paint the newer product as not worthy of the hype the original got. I didn't have very high hopes for this beer (I thought it would have been well past its peak), but I was pleasantly surprised, and slightly disappointed that I may never have one again...at least not in this incarnation.

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Photo of Bluegrass49
4.78/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of vladtheimpaler
4.78/5  rDev +16%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Had a perfectly treated and conditioned bottle. This was yummy. The conditioning of this beer is outstanding. Smooth Chocolate/Coffee malt flavor. Hops have been reduced to the background (through conditioning). Aroma has that beautiful, fruity, toffee, oxidized note that makes every sip enjoyable. This beer stands out and is worth seeking. I must warn everyone about mistreated bottles, though...

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Photo of Rocko
4.77/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2002:

Wow this is a real baby. :) Pours pitch black with a small brown head that fades away after a few seconds. It smells very malty with hints of coffee and dark chocolate, I think it has a really pleasant smell.

The taste is very complex, nice and pleasantly bitter, there is also a bit of coffee and burnt sugar in the background. The aftertaste is very long, but not as bitter as one would think. Thumbs up from me.

I think I will buy a few and let them mature!

Quote from the back label: "Carnegie Porter was created in 1836 and the taste is the same today" Anyone happen to have a 1836 vintage? ;))

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Photo of horndecker
4.77/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2000. Curious to see if this is a bit long in the tooth, or if it has some longevity.

The color is inky black with the odd raspberry red highlight. A fine tan head flares and settles, leaving some sticky suds.

The smell is lots of chocolate, a faint grassy hop, a hint of cherries, all of it rather earthy and dark. Some espresso notes at the end.

The taste is chocolate, roasted malt, almost malted milk, slight burnt flavors, but not edgy, very smooth. There is a mild bitterness which tempers the chocolate center, and leads to a dusty cocoa aftertaste.

It seems to have a bit less fruit than younger bottles I have had. The coffee/espresso contribution seems to diminish as well. Still a great beer, and beautifully put together. Enjoyed for it's earthier character.

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Photo of rkhaze
4.77/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured a really dark chestnut color. Small, quickly disappating tan head.
Deep classic aromas of sweet roasted malt, coffee and dark chocolate.
Big complex rich flavors of earthy, heavily roasted malt, coffee, bittersweet chocolate and smidges of cola and licorice. It had a tangy sweetness and finished mildly acidic with a pleasant hop bitterness and a whisper of tobacco. Good stuff! Let this one warm up a bit.
Medium bodied with a full, creamy and chewy mouthfeel. Good amount of carbonation.
Excellent beer and supreme drinkability!

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Photo of russpowell
4.76/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2006 version

Pours black with purple highlights when held to the light & a fluffed up 2 fingers deep sand colored head. Great lacing & head retention

S: Choclate & licorice

T: Huge choclate & burnt grain up front, then licorice & molasses. A little iron & alcohol bite surfaces as it warms . Finishes with a slight fruittyness, licorice & molasses

MF: Chewy with low carbonation & superb balance. Makes me think of a malted milk

Drinks pretty easy, would a nice on to session on if it weren't so expensive. One kickass batlic porter

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Photo of BlitzShadow
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of pat61
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

L: Pours brilliant deep dark brown with a thin, clingy tan cap.
S: Chocolate, light coffee.
T: Starts slight sweet and ends dry, some dried fruit – mostly prune, no burnt or harsh roast flavors, moderately bitter. Light tartness on the finish.
F: Creamy, clean and smooth with above average carbonation and medium body.
O: Clean, smooth, easy to drink Baltic Porter.

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Photo of gtown_operator
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of OregonGrown7
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of pathman
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of Thomas_Picton
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of tjdrewry
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of LouieBreschi
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Photo of TheDarkestYouveGot
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of afsdan
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

Photo of nlmartin
4.74/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer was purchased at Jungle Jims. The beer was served in a imperial pint glass. The beer was the 2004 vintage. The bottle says best by 2014. I just dont know if this is a realistic best by date.

Appearance: The beer pours a black coloration with ruby opaqueness to light. The beer had a thick creamed coffee colored head. The head resolved itself into a thin ring. Patches of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: This beer is loaded with dark roasted and toasted malts. The beer produces wiffs of smokeyness. The beer is majorly loaded with dark fruityness perhaps figs, prunes and black currants. The beer has a bit of choco and coffee smells playing in the smell. I cant really pinpoint anything that is hoppy in origin but I dont care. This is a dam fine smelling beer.

Taste: The beer delivers on the smell big time. This is a malty beer treat. The beer never hits a cloying sweetness. I guess this is due to the roasted and smokey flavors.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is a bit lighter than full bodied. The beer is lightly carbonated. The beer has a bit of buttery creamyness to the mouth. The beer never becomes cloyingly sweet. I would have liked this beer to be a bit thicker on the mouthfeel. The beer is a very drinkable malt bomb. I wish the cost of this was a bit cheaper because it would be a regular in my beer line up.

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Photo of dsnyder61
4.73/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Photo of LeoPanna
4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

11.2oz bottle purchased at Joe Canal's in Woodbrige, NJ... on sale for 3.99 a bottle.... poured into a Unibruoe tulip.

A: Pitch black, smooth pour... little head, white, but a lot of bubbles stickin on the glass. looks beautiful.

S: Sooo rich... Molasses, malts, raisins, plums, dates, bright wood, a little like Coca-Cola, Dr. Pepper... a little cinnamon...reminds me of a Puerto Rican drink called Malta India... don't smell the alcohol. I can't stop smelling. I'm addicted...6 minutes later. It reminds me of the Celebrator Dopplebock or an Eisbock. I'm ready to try.

T. mmmm... deep and dark malts right away. Raisins, grapes and dates in the middle... malt and wood essence, alcohol lingering on the back of the tongue...the aftertaste swells on the tongue, a slow tremolo between the malts, dark fruits and alcohol...after a few sips, i get some vanilla tones, even a light vegetable bitterness like biting into a sweet onion seasoned w pepper... as it warms, the raisin flavor emerges along. I want to be drinking this on a boat under the moon.

M. medium carbonation... smooth as hell.. goes down well. exactly what you expect from a baltic porter... even with the 5% ABV i can feel the warmth in my chest..

O. The entire experience is perfect. From the price, the cool bottle, to the pour and the smell. The taste is a journey but subtle enough to drink more than one. I'm not eating anything but I can pair this with all kinds of foods, some grilled lamb with asparagus, for dessert some raisin pudding cake maybe a vanilla ice cream. I'm going to age my other bottle and let those flavors grow.

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Photo of Ninjakillzu
4.71/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

L: Poured into a Pint Defiance tulip. Body is a very dark brown with a thin tan ring around the glass.

S: Smells like a Belgian strong dark or a scotch ale. Caramel malt, dark fruits, roasted coffee, and dark chocolate.

T: Same as the nose. The roastiness is more apparent.

F: Medium light bodied with mild carbonation. Body is a bit watery on the finish.

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Photo of jwc215
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

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Photo of ktrillionaire
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does.

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Photo of chicagoabbot
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I was pretty close to giving this one a 5 on taste too...alas, it's only about four layers of flavor deep. Damn, this is a great porter. Deep rich color out of the bottle and into the glass. 2010 vintage. Baltic baby. Smell is super complex. There's a lot going on here and I inhale deeply with every sip. Lots of depth on the tongue. Malty. Well balanced. I almost should change that to a 5 on taste. This is a perfect Baltic porter. Mouthfeel is energetic but silky. Highly recommended.

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Photo of echdk3
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 1pt, 9oz bottle into a mug, 2004 vintage

A_Gorgeous dark black color with caramel color one centimeter head with bubbles on top surface. Really a beautiful beer, and leaves a nice slight lace

S_Big time vinegar, molasses. Burnt toast and coffee, a very rich and complex aroma complete with a slight bit of very dark bittersweet chocolate bar

T_Saliva kicks in on the pallet pretty quickly once this brew hits. Primary flavor is dark Italian burnt coffee also with some of that same white vinegar from the aroma

M_Very chewy and lightly carbonated, feels like chewy young goude cheese, absolutely gorgeous

D_Really nice dark roast italian coffee aftertaste is present but absolutely unintrusive. The alcohol is hidden very well. I really could drink many of these, very very nice

I am rating this beer very higly. It is easily one of the best porters I've ever had - in all five categories. Please, please pick this beer up and enjoy all of its subtleties slowly and fully

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
4.12 out of 5 based on 582 ratings.
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