Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
582
Reviews:
354
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
10.68%
 
 
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66
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Photo of jahred
4.21/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tried this at the Feb. Goose Island "Beer Academy."

Pours a dark black color with a medium white head. There's a slight, but very pleasant and medicinal coffee malt scent.

The taste, though, is quite strong and forward. A nice roasted malt taste up fromt, followed by thick, rich and creamy coffee flavors. The word tasty comes to mind. Perhaps the best description is that this is a coffee milk shake with caramel swirled in (and 5.5% ABV!)

As pointed out at the event, the beer is only 5.5% abv, but has a "best before" date of April 2010. Can a beer such as this age well? For so long? Only one way to find out...

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Photo of mdagnew
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle bought from The Vineyard, Belfast...

Poured deep dark mahogany brown with a hint of red when held up to the light. Mocha tan head poured pretty thick and foamy with a bubbly top then faded quite quickly to decent coating with thick edging... some light patchy lacing...

Aroma - Lots of lightly roasted chocolate malts, toasted bread, dark sweet fruits (stewed plums, blackcurrents), dark brown sugar sweetness, roasted nuts, light burnt toffee, fresh vanilla, mocha coffee notes, light allspice, some treacle notes...

Taste - Lots of milk chocolate notes, toasted bready malts, nice treacle sweetness which is balanced by light spicy and peppery hop bitterness, prune and date fruitiness, toasted nuts, milky notes, coffee with brown sugar, cocoa powder...

Feel - Smooth and creamy with a little bite just coming through... a very sessionable brew especially at only 5.5%.

Overall - An incredibly well balanced and drinkable Porter but at £3.50 a bottle not something that i'd be buying all the time... definitely recommended though...

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Photo of riored4v
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 1/25/08 in a SN Tulip glass.

Appearance had a creamy, tan 1 1/2 finger head. Black, slightly opaque body w/ hints of ruby.

Smell had sweet, roasted malts. Hints of licorice as well.

Taste had nice chocolate notes. Slightly grainy. Subtle roasted malt flavors. Very mild in bitterness along with a nice mild malt sweetness. A nice balance of flavors overall.

Mouthfeel was surprising light in body. Low in carbonation.

Drinkability was very good. Nice and light, well balanced.

Great tasting porter. Very well balanced.

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Photo of AleWatcher
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is a 2004 vintage, served in an imperial pint.

Dark blackish brown with a 1 finger tan head. No lacing, but decent retention.
Smells of rich, thick malt with notes of caramel, toffee, and chocolate.
The beer tastes just as I'd expect- roasty roasty malts with hints of cocoa and coffee. An acrid smoke character is warmly inviting.

The body is hefty, but creamy and sturdy. Good low carbonation level is spot on.

Overall-- this is nice. I'll be grabbing some more of this to sample at various stages of aging.

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Photo of Realale
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1998 version, but purchased in 2002.

Deep reddish brown, with definite black overtones. No head at all - just little wisps of foam.

Nose is licorice, but the really good yeasty, bready kind of licorice. Supporting date and raisin notes as well.

Very malty on the palate. Lots of licorice again, but nice acidity and bitterness add complexity and keep the residual sweetness from becoming cloying. An interesting take on a Porter.

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Photo of avalon07
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a black color and a thick consistency. There was a large tan-colored, fairly long-lasting head and very good lacing.

S: Smelled of malt, coffee and a sweet element.

T: A nicely done taste of coffee, licorice and malt. Licorice had more of a role than I thought it would. Mild alcohol presence.

M: A good amount of carbonation and a generally smooth finish. Heavy-bodied.

D: Definitely a drinkable Baltic Porter. Sweeter than most, but goes down easy.

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Photo of gfreed
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As Baltic porters go, this hardly qualifies: it lacks the weight, the density, the burn and the booze. As a straight porter, however, it's quite good. There's just enough vanilla, citrus and bubbly sting to make it a happy little beer. It's a tad smoky without being overly charred, and for once we have a porter that doesn't reek of coffee. You'll be able to have more than one (bring your wallet) and *still* be able to operate a power tool with a spinning blade. Maybe.

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Photo of ryan1788a5
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%

11.2oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Very dark brown in color, near black. Beige head settles soon. Small spots of lacing.

S: Molasses, plum, rum raisin, caramel, bready. Faint whiffs of brown cocoa and grassy hops.

T: Brown and black cocoa, caramel and molasses, some yeast, plum, faint grassy hops. Medium sweet. Oak? Very subtle licorice sort of taste. Brown sugar and hints of roasted coffee beans and smoke on the finish.

M: Medium bodied. Some sense of weight and heft in the mouth, but it stops just short of being sticky. Carbonation is very fine-bubbled and scrubs gently. Silky and texturally pleasant.

O: A nice true to style, old school Baltic porter. One of the style benchmarks.

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Photo of GnomeKing
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Dark as night, with a minimal head whose bubbles pop quickly and without creaming up on your lips. There's a spice edge up front, yielding to the taste of chocolate without the sugar--a little on the dry side. Some tastes of nuts.

It's really drinkable. It's interesting to see an example of the style that's only 5.5 ABV. I prefer something more robust in a baltic porter, one of my very favorite styles, but this is still very good. At 5.5%, perhaps this could become my baltic porter session beer, except that...

Final whine: Retired? Whaaahhh!

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Photo of barrelman
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage.

Brown color with ample head and lacing. Aroma is mostly sweet, but not overpowering. Taste is smooth with roast at the end. After taste is clean and short. This beer tastes very clean withnot too many distractions. I really enjoy that. Not many off flavors or esters present.

Mouthfeel is great. Perfect. The drinkability of this beer is fantastic. I could see the third being just as good as the first.

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Photo of granger10
4.19/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was a very sweet tasting porter. Lots of malts seem to be involved in the making of this. Chocolate malt is dominate. A creamy vanilla flavor ensues. After that I can't tell but there are more flavors, sweet ones. Roasted grains and roasted coffee hit me towards the finish. That balances the beer out and makes me want more. I really liked this one.

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Photo of ZEB89
4.19/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of RickS95
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours dark as night. Completely opaque with a cratered tan head.

Smells like you'd expect. Roasty malts dominate, with some chocolate and coffee making cameos.

Has a smoky, roasty chocolately taste with some bittering coffee notes in the finish.

Starts with a creamy feel before giving way to a bittering dry finish. Lacks some carbonation, but that was ok.

Really drinkable. It's creamy and goes down easy. It's full of good flavors. There is some bitterness in the finish, but nothing overwhelming. Alcohol is only slightly above average. Very easy to empty a glass.

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Photo of Immortale25
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Can't decipher the best before date, but the last two numbers are "15" so I'm going to assume it's good until 2015.

A- Pours a mostly opaque black color with a 1/4 inch tan head that retains a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and some sparse wisps of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a thin, jagged ring behind.

S- Milk chocolate aroma with some medium dark roast. Notes of vanilla and a touch of booze.

T- Straightforward porter flavor with more medium dark roast accompanied by notes of coffee, more vanilla and dark bread. Mild bitterness rounds things out making for a tasty drink.

M- Semi-creamy with medium-low carbonation and a full body.

O- A porter by the numbers but executed so well. Very drinkable as well as very flavorful. Now I see what all the hubbub's about.

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Photo of kosmoraios
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep black with a 1-finger, creamy tan head that lingers and laces the glass nicely. Aroma is of good chocolate and ripe fig.

Taste is wonderfully complex, with dark chocolate, ripe plum, creamy caramel toffee. Some toasted dark bread as it warms. Very nice and light, but not too light, for a porter.

Mouthfeel is creamy and well textured with ample carbonation to aid the finish. Amazingly drinkable BP that I will be returning to.

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Photo of shippos
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2001 vintage

poured with a dark brown-black color with some brown ruby highlights in the bottom of the glass and a cream tan pillowy head.
complex aromas but I can pick out sweet milk with a earthy peated character and some chocolate. very smooth and rich mouthfeel when tasted cold but thins up a bit when it warms up. very balanced in it's flavors, it has a black malty bitterness that in the aftertaste. a very well brewed easily drinkable example.

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Photo of yen157
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

2001: Black beer, only appears red nead the edges and bottom of the glass. Also, tan head goes away somewhat quickly. Nice toasted grain smell along with some caramel.
Hearty bodied beer, nice example of a heavy porter. Good use of dark malts. Charcoal burn grain flavor is present but very well intermingled with other tastes such as coffee and dark chocolate. Hops bitterness works closely with grain bitterness to keep beer from tasting sweet. Very smooth, creamy beer. Carbonation kept light so that it doesn't take attention away from this robust beer.

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Photo of Mjoepp
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Black liquid with a quite big light browish head. Medium and small bubbles, leaves some lacing on the glass.

S: Roasted (sweet) malt, coffee, lil' bit of choclate.

T: Roasted, coffee, choclate. Watery when swallowed, leaves a bitter roasted taste as aftertaste.

O: Quite impressed, deserves to have survied all these years.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

was fortunate enough to find a 2000 vintage bottle of this for just 13 bucks. the label reads best before November 2010, but im thinking its not past its prime at all. it pours a surprisingly lively darkest of browns, without any light at all able to pass through. the head is made up of micro bubbles of a lighter brown color. the head doesn't last, but its easily reinvigorated with a swirl of my globe. the nose on this is heavy chocolate, burnt malt, ash, and a gentle toffee tickle. it has an aged mellowness to it, very earthy and organic, with roasted barley and cocoa powder dominating up front. the finish is like all the best features of dusty leather, my grandpas attic, mature compost, and smoked pork. its just so complex and delicious. there is a funny astringent bitterness towards the finish and the alcohol stands out more than it should in a beer so low in abv, but other than that its phenomenal. the mouthfeel makes it for me, so gentle on the carbonation, and curiously dry for the style. I love the cocoa powder flavor, it transforms into a cocoa powder feel of sorts, really cool. age has definitely done wonders for this beer, and while ive never had a fresh one, I can assure you that this is one special porter. perhaps also my first beer from Sweden. memorable.

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Photo of msubulldog25
4.17/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 16.9 oz bottle, with a simple label almost all written in Swedish - årgång 2004. Not my first Swedish beer ever (thanks to a 1999 trip to Stockholm/Västerås for my brother's wedding, where plenty of Pripps Blå was consumed), but my first in a long time. Label reads: "Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then."

A: Deep, dark brown with amber at the edges. Hardly any head; what there is appears stark white, surrounding the glass with a small ring and capping it with a star-shaped film. A little sticking lace, in thin bands.

S: Sweet & malty, to be expected of a Baltic Porter. Toasted grain and mild fruit. Pleasant, though a little subtle.

T: Malty sweetness with lots of spice and caramel, but with more bittering, grain huskiness, a little smoke. Slightly medicinal, citrus-y finish. Cocoa and darker chocolate in the finish. Dark roasted and some lactic sourness in the finish. Very tasty and nicely balanced.

M: Actively carbonated mouthfeel on a medium body. Grainy/sweet finish with some lingering spice. Infinitely smooth, lightly creamy, nice mouthfeel overall.

D: Very easy to drink, flavors aren't conducive to lots of drinking but good for a bottle. Worth a try, a good Baltic Porter.

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Photo of beergeek279
4.17/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage, served in a 500 mL bottle, into a pint glass. The color is nearly black, with a bubbly beige head. The smell is a chocolatey roastiness. The taste is very chocolate sweet, with just the slightest bit of hops to it. Mouthfeel seems a bit thin. As for drinkability, could have real sessionability and no offputting flavors, so could have quite a few of these.

Well, I don't know if I'd consider this a Baltic porter, but it is solid. Though the mouthfeel is a tad thin, the flavor is quite good, with a rich chocolate to it. Quite good, and I'd love to try some of the other vintages.

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Photo of benloho
4.17/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Waggman
4.16/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Vancer
4.16/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Best before May 2014 – holy crap! And I found it in a close-out bin for only $2 a 500ml. Only 2 bottles in there, damn.

Coal black pour, massive ivory head, good lacing – this brew is off on the right foot! Semi-stoutish aroma of chocolate, coffee, and the infamous sour ale.

Dry quaff works the above notes into the taste quite well. Just a small pop of chalkyness, and this processes a nice hop balance to qwell any cloying sweetness. Creamy like a milk stout, the 5 and a half % alcohol makes this close to a real session drinker.

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Photo of SammyDavisJrJrJr
4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 Vintage, best by date January, 2016.

A - Good head, tan and full, with dark brown body.

S - Nice and mellow, chocolate, milk, and nutmeg, it almost reminds me of a hearty White Russian. Enjoyable.

T - Sweet cream, coffee, brown sugar, dark chocolate, and allspice (i think..) It's all mellow and restrained with complexity that suits it. The most mellow Baltic Porter I've had, and one I could see enjoying much of.

M - Creamy, fluffy almost mouthfeel, not a full as I'm used to.

D - In a style filled with high alcohol flavor bombs, this beer really stands out for it's mildness. The complexity is still impressive, with nice mild spice making this a very enjoyable after breakfast drink.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
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