Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
582
Reviews:
354
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
10.68%
 
 
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Photo of 100floods
4.12/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage date says 2004. Pours coca-cola brown, with some half finger head. Smells a little sweet, a little roasty, some smokey hints in there too. First sip was good, second was a even better. Smokey, roasted, a little dark chocolate flavors, a little sweet aftertaste, similar to a rauchbier, but it also reminds me of zywiec's porter. I had this beer years ago when I first started getting into beer and I found it again, and I'm glad I did. Such a refreshing difference from most american porters (this one is swedish). The smokey flavors are a nice touch, just enough presence that I won't complain. Nice light beer, nice rich flavors. I'd love to have this on cask sometime.

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Photo of KTCamm
4.11/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Spotted at the Morton Williams in NYC. 500 ml (or so) bottle. Poured into a pint glass. 2004 vintage as identified on the bottle.

Pours jet black with low white foam. Jet black, compltely blocks out the light.

Very minor roasted smell.

Lightly sweet chocolate taste, some roasting in there. Hints of minor fruits - plums, raisins, etc. Dry finish. Oddly full in the mouthfeel, but watery at time as well. But very smooth. Notes of coffee taste.

A very well made porter, good drinkability.

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Photo of stegmakk
4.11/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 bottle
Color is DARK brown almost black. Head was a nice tan but dissapeared quickly. Smelled a little coffe flavor but it was too metallic to give it a higher rating. The taset was great. There wasn't much of the metal flavor. It is a nicely blended porter. Not too coffee like, but just enough. It had a smooth slightly thick feel. Definately a good porter. Definately worth getting again.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
4.11/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I was surprised to see this in my Neighborhood Liquor Store™, so of course I had to bite the bullet. 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, 2010 vintage.

A: Pours a dark ruby color. It appears pitch black from a glance, however it shows ruby-red edges when held up to a good light. The head is a two finger light mocha shade. It doesn't retain itself well, unfortunately, but manages to leave behind good lacing.

S: Rich as hell, yet also quite sweet. Aside from mild (and expected) oxidation, there are also strong notes of dark fruits, along with a good helping of cocoa powder. It does a good job of coming across bigger than it really is.

T: The opening flavors, indeed, are sweet and fruity. After that, it gradually dries out. A midtaste full of luscious cocoa powder becomes lightly ashy on the finish and aftertaste. However, it remains plummy throughout the flavor profile, and even shows some good depth.

M: It's got a lighter body, with a mild finishing dryness helping to keep some of the sweeter flavors in check. Carbonation is low as expected, but not quite flat. It's quite easy to drink given its relative rich flavor.

O: Lowish carbonation aside, this has aged like a champ. A shame I'll likely never be able to find this again (barring a trade) because this is really excellent stuff. And hey, I didn't have to drink a crappy Carlsberg lager or sell my soul for a bottle of Kaggen! Stormakstporter just so I could tick a Swedish brew!

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer.

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Photo of Riverwarrior
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 Vintage

S = Once the beer warmed a litte, I picked out some semi-sweet cocoa notes as well as roasted coffee.

T = The taste was tamed and restrained with no bitter edges anywhere. Semi-sweet chocolate mixed with roasted coffee flavors were upfront. A hint of caramel and toffee were also in the mix. The finish was like drinking a quality cocoa coffee.

MF = Medium body with moderate carbonation. Creamy and very easy to drink.

Overall, this was the most mellow Baltic Porter that I've tasted.

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Photo of RedHaze
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

årgång 2006.

Pours a very dark chocolaty brown with some ruby peeking through the edges. The head peaks at about one finger and fades fairly quickly to a thin soapy cap, leaving behind a thin bit of lacing.

Smell; dark roasted/toasted malts, chocolate, coffee and some mild hops. There's some dark fruits going on, and a little malty sweetness as well.

Taste; lots of roasted flavors up front with burnt toast and coffee, and there's a pretty strong chocolate presence. Some dark fruits and a bit of a hoppy bitterness round out the finish.

Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied and with a fairly smooth carbonation it has a pretty silky feel. The drinkability is really good, and add in the fact that, for a Baltic Porter the alcohol level is fairly low, I could easily enjoy a couple of these.

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Photo of flagmantho
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 500mL bottle into a pint glass. This bottle is årgång 2004, so it's got some good age on it.

Appearance: rich, deep amber brown with one thick finger of creamy tan head. Body allows a hint of red light through.

Smell: very nice aroma which is lightly fruity with a roasty and chocolatey backdrop. Somewhat sweet and quite enjoyable.

Taste: like the aroma, there's a nice fruitiness here with a bit of roastiness and chocolate there for character. The flavor is not super strong; that is basically the only drawback.

Mouthfeel: body is on the lighter side of medium, but there's a well-integrated carbonation which yields a silky creaminess. Quite nice.

Drinkability: this beer is more than the sum of its parts. I like Baltic porters in general, and Carnegie is kind enough to clock in at a low enough ABV to basically be a session beer. Great stuff.

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Photo of BeerResearcher
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This oddly named Swedish Export is a very interesting Baltic-style Porter. Black Coffee in color with a heavy to medium malty body. The hop content is fairly high, possessing a raw hop bite. Dry and crisp and lightly smoky with a hint of caramel sweetness. Pleasing hop and lightly smoky aroma. This is a well-made, easy to drink porter with a nice beige head...speaking of which, I’d like to experience this dark Swede with a Swedish blonde on a cold winter’s eve!

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Photo of jamie2dope
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is another beer I always see sitting on the shelf, but am never too sure how long it's been there, so I tend to hold off. In this case however I figured it was a nice change of pace to have a strong Porter on a cold Winter night. It poured a nice dark brown, that was somewhat lighter when held up to the light. Smell was somewhat weak, but did have a nice milk chocolate nose. It was also pretty clean in the smell overall. Taste had lots of burnt coffee beans, bitter chocolate, and the aftertaste you get from a nice cigar. Mouthfeel was a notch above medium, and very nice on the palate. This ia a great beer. It would do well as a sipping beer or as a gulper. I personally found no problem in finishing the sample I had. A really well done effort for the Porter style. Usually I am let down by this style, but when it's right, it really hits the spot. Worth a shot for sure.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque mahogany, although far from a black hole, with orange and garnet accents. Atop the beer is a splendid looking cap of dense foam the color of chocolate chip cookie dough (sans chocolate chips). Too bad it doesn't last all that long and doesn't leave much lace.

The nose is a bit weaker than it should be. Come on, you're a Baltic porter man, smell like one! It's still pleasant, but the greats of the style have no need to worry. I smell roasted malt, a little chocolate and a minor burst of fruity hops. More power and more complexity would be nice, but it gets the job done.

Stark Porter is identifiable as a Baltic porter, although it doesn't clear the style bar by much. It's definitely on the lighter end of the spectrum and isn't really much bigger than the typical American porter in terms of flavor intensity and body. Having said all that, it is a rather tasty combination of chocolate liqueur and black coffee.

I also appreciate molasses notes with an accompanying fruitiness that must be due to hops. There's also a lactic sweetness attempting to fight through the moderate finishing bitterness. Perhaps this beer could be called a milk Baltic porter, akin to a milk stout. With warming, the mouthfeel (and the flavor) finds its mojo and, thence, respectability.

D.C. & C. SP is good beer, but it falls well short of the Perkuno's Hammers and Sinebrychoffs of the world. My penchant for more full-bodied beer means that I love the Baltic porter style. It also means that my praise of this one is something less than full-throated.

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Photo of drizzam
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Found this at a local store the other day...the label says "ARGANG 2004". Not sure if that means this is '04 vintage or what. I guess we'll see if this is any good. (Poured into my favorite Stone nonic)

A - Opaque dark brown body topped by a one finger tan fluffy head. Decent head retention and moderate lacing.

S - Sweet caramel malt and toffee seems to be the dominant aromas here. Not highly aromatic but it does smell very nice.

T & M - That same caramel malt provides the backbone for this brew, with a hint of milk chocolate and some minor hop bitterness toward the back end. This actually reminds me a bit of a milk stout, as there seems to be a bit of lactose present and lingering throughout. Medium bodied with a bit of a creamy mouthfeel.

D - Very high drinkability factor. I'm not sure if this is 2004 vintage, but if it is it held up very nicely for the last 7 years! A 5.5% ABV brew should not have held up this nicely. Either way, a very nice example of the style.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Aroma is malty, smoky and slightly yeasty with a good undertone of fine coffee and molasses. It pours a dark chocolate brown with a thick pale beige head that is fine-bubbled and fairly persistent. Flavor is malty and mocha-ish with just a whisper of sweetness. Texture is smooth and lively though not as thick as that of some other stouts.

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Photo of Reaper16
4.09/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

500mL bottle -- 2009 vintage -- served into a pint glass (thanks, bar)

Pours a dark brown color, as expected, with hints of like a grape Robitussin or something. But only in terms of color; cough syrup has a thicker body that this beer. It looks thin for the style. About one finger of head the color of sun-bleached sand forms.

This baltic porter may be on the lightest spectrum of the style, but it is not lacking at all for aroma. It has a huge nose full of raisins, dates, brown sugar, plum skin, and black cherry cola. It's a very lovely aroma.

While the aroma didn't give away this beer's sub-6% ABV, the taste does. It tastes somewhat muted relative to the Okocims or Olfabrikkens of the baltic porter world. It tastes like Baltic Porter Lite, though that description sounds more favorable in my head than it probably sounds in yours as you read this. I still think this a good beer; there's a place for beer's that try to delivery imperial-strength flavor in a more sessionable form.

The mouthfeel is the worst part of this beer by far. It's so thin, even for the style, that it comes across as watery. Like carbonated water, because the carbonation is very assertive here.

Overall, this doesn't blow me away, but it is far better than any 5.50% ABV attempt at a Blaltic Porter. In fact, I'm very impressed by the amount of aroma and flavor are in a beer this light.

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Photo of mzwolinski
4.09/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours thick and utterly black. Almost no head or carboation at all. Heady aroma of chocolate, molassess, plum and tobacco. Oddly, this beer looks and smells like it would feel a lot thicker than it actually does in the mouth. It's not thin, mind you, but can be deceptive especially given the Imperial-stoutish character of its appearance and aroma. The flavor, though, is quite rich. Chocolatey sweet with dark fruits at first, followed by roasty, roasty malts that linger well into the aftertaste. This isn't a stout. And it's refreshing that it doesn't pretend to be one. It is, however, a nicely robust porter.

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Photo of SlobbeD
4.09/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of SeanDonahue
4.09/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

This is a beer from Sweden that you don't see everywhere. I have only seen it sold in a 12 fl. oz bottle so it's something that a browser might skip over at the beer store.

The appearance on this beer is exactly what I would want. It is a very dark brown with some light brown settling at the top. Very little head when poured.

The aroma I get from this beer contains a ton of malt. There are big bready notes in this beer, a ton of grain to be admired.

The taste on this beer is interesting. On the first taste, there are big malt notes that come through. Halfway through, there is a bitter quality that comes out. Mixed in with that, you get those big grains that come out and settle in your mouth.

Overall, this is a fantastic beer if you just want one quick brew with not too much alcohol and a big interesting taste. Sit on the back porch like I am now and enjoy your brew!

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Photo of sfprint
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: pitch black, tan head dissipates fast. no visible rising carbonation. pure oil.
S: black coffee, slightly sweet, dirt, heavy.
T: mildly bitter, but milky, what I expect a milk stout would be like. Sort of like a kind of chocolate milk but less sweet. Very nice.
M: at times rough in texture, at other times like chocolate milk.
O: Quite nice. A great porter.

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Photo of campfirebrew
4.08/5  rDev -1%

Photo of SixpointJMH
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

found a few of the 1997 batch at my local store, so i picked one up and was not dissapointed. knew this one would be good from the get go. poured a deep brown, almost black. a nice head developed and moderately faded into a lasting lace. smells of sweetness dominated with hints of coffee and earthiness as well. while not as sweet as the smell, tastes included chocolate and caramel along with the afforementioned coffee. minimal carbonation here, which i enjoyed. a highly drinkable porter. perhaps even for those who may not enjoy heavier beers, as there's a bit of lightness to it as well. this was a very, very smooth brew that was enjoyable for every last sip. hopefully i can find a few more bottles. the swedes have themself a winner.

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Photo of Gusler
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Upon its parole from the 500ml bottle 2006 vintage, the beer sets a deep brown to black with strong dark ruby highlights, the head is light chocolate brown, creamy in texture and piled high on the body, lace forms an obscuring sheet. Nose has a rich roasted grain aroma, sweet with a definite espresso tone, caramel, and a hint of semi-sweet chocolate, earthy. Start has a pleasing roasted grain presence, sweet, with a bit of bitterness at the back, light to moderate in feel. Finish has mild acidity, touch of hops, toasted grain semi-sweetness continues to the very aftertaste, quite nice actually, a pleasing beer, not to light, not to heavy.

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Photo of connecticutpoet
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage 2004.

This brew was a rich, dark brown... clear, and with a one0finger tan head that took a while to die down, first to a layer of foam, eventually to a thin scrim on the surface.

The aroma was of coffee with cream and roasted malts.. but it was very light and airy. Hard to detect.

Taste was very rich, mainly slightly sweet roasted malts. There was also some slightly burnt toffee thrown in there for good measure. Overall well balanced.

Mouthfeel was nice and chewy, quite good for the style. About what I had hoped for,

Drinakability likewise is very good. I just wish it was less expensive, and that it wasn't retired. Oh well, it is still going down well tonight.

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Photo of OtherShoe2
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch.

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

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Photo of KFaulkner
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I think I've come across a little diamond in the rough here in my beer travels. Picked up a bottle of this Swedish beer in a hole-in-the-wall store in Hagerstown, Maryland. They have many in stock, reasonably priced.

Vintage is 2006, and I'd very much like to go back just to purchase another bottle and let it sit for a few years. Even at a modest 5.5% ABV, it seems this gem drinks best after 4 or 5 years in the bottle (based on other reviews).

I'm not sure I can add much to what has been said; a great interpretation of the Baltic Porter style. Dark colors and flavors, a beautiful head that stick to the glass with each sip. Toffee, currants, espresso, hazelnut/almond and an herbal aftertaste.

This is the first Swedish beer I have ever had, and who knew that I could thank them for something like this in addition to their meatballs, and my easy-to-assemble bed and dresser set.

Pick this up if you find it.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
4.12 out of 5 based on 582 ratings.
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