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Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

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Photo of battlekow
2.37/5  rDev -42.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Carnegie Stark Porter pours a flat garnet-tinged dark brown. Nose is way, way too "baltic" for me, by which I mean prunes are the only thing I detect, which makes the Stark Porter smell like some kind of evil Jamba Juice concoction. Taste has some echoes of the prunes, but not nearly as intense. Light toasted finish. Maybe it's just relative to the nose, but really doesn't taste like much, maybe like diluted grape or prune juice. Mouthfeel features absolutely no carbonation whatsoever, adding to the juice illusion, but is relatively thick. Overall, the Carnegie Stark Porter is a little gross in some areas and not really there in the rest.

I think "Årgång 1997" means that this is from 1997--that can't have helped.

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Photo of connecticutpoet
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage 2004.

This brew was a rich, dark brown... clear, and with a one0finger tan head that took a while to die down, first to a layer of foam, eventually to a thin scrim on the surface.

The aroma was of coffee with cream and roasted malts.. but it was very light and airy. Hard to detect.

Taste was very rich, mainly slightly sweet roasted malts. There was also some slightly burnt toffee thrown in there for good measure. Overall well balanced.

Mouthfeel was nice and chewy, quite good for the style. About what I had hoped for,

Drinakability likewise is very good. I just wish it was less expensive, and that it wasn't retired. Oh well, it is still going down well tonight.

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Photo of putnam
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2004.
Dark brown. Aromas of molten red clay, coffee, chocolate, nut paste and poppy. Drinkable, even texture. Sweet coffee liquor rushes the doughy mousse. Very neat and perfect proportioned. Highly drinkable. Perfect with butter drenched prawns, crab or rare grass fed filet, Irish style.

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Photo of GnomeKing
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Dark as night, with a minimal head whose bubbles pop quickly and without creaming up on your lips. There's a spice edge up front, yielding to the taste of chocolate without the sugar--a little on the dry side. Some tastes of nuts.

It's really drinkable. It's interesting to see an example of the style that's only 5.5 ABV. I prefer something more robust in a baltic porter, one of my very favorite styles, but this is still very good. At 5.5%, perhaps this could become my baltic porter session beer, except that...

Final whine: Retired? Whaaahhh!

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Photo of DogFood11
3.57/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Gobbled this at Barney's Beanery in west hollywood, former stomping grounds of Janis Joplin and Mr Jim Morrison. Poured a dark brown without much sunlight able to penetrate this pup. lots of burnt type tones to it. Extremely smooth to the point of being watery. Coffee was evident but not prominent. Finished with some hops but not overly dry.

Overall I thought it was ok but for the price it was not a beer I'll pursue. I'll pay for a great brew but for an OK brew no.

Edit Feb 2006: Bottled 2004 version. Still not one I'd seek out but if this was the offering at my hotel in Ibiza I'd gobble it up and love it. As it stands, LA has enough options to where this brew is a passer by.

Edit Feb 2007: Had another bottle of the 2004 and I stand by my original scores. Its just OK fresh or with age. A bit of a cola feel starts to creep in as it gets older and not a bad thing really as this needs a bit more depth.

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Photo of ChrisBowers
4.32/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 vintage poured from the bottle. Very little carbonation, coffee like darkness. Aroma was sweet, chocolately. Taste wasn't quite what I was expecting, but excellent nonetheless. We're talking Frappucino type cafe mocha coffee/chocolate creaminess. Unlike almost anything I'd had in a beer. Sweet but not too sweet, lack of intense carbonation I'm sure helped. Very nice to savor in your mouth for a second. Nice complex notes of vanilla as well. Very very smooth and drinkable.... you could slug down the entire 9oz bottle and not even flinch, but what fun would that be?

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Photo of kmpitz2
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 vintage.

Pours a deep brown to black color with no head over top. Not even a puff when the cap was popped. The nose is light fig, and soy sauce. A very nice combination. I'd like a little more force in there, but I can live with it. The flavor is nice. Mellowed chocolate covered fig, touched with a soy, but not biting, flavor. Almost a light smokeyness in there as well. No hint of oxidation. Incredibly tasty. The feel is a light moderate, with no carbonation. Overall, an incredibly drinkable brew. Easily a session beer for me. I'm sad this is the only one I have.

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Photo of clvand0
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

1997 Vintage. Pours a very dark color with no head and leaves no lacing on the glass. The aroma has the character of a very sweet raisin with possibly some other fruits in there and a hint of soy sauce. The flavor has a lot of chocolate in it that sticks around, but it also has some dark fruit character and some other dark malts. It's dark tasty for an eight year old beer. Not much in the way of roastiness. Mouthfeel is kind of thin, but again, it's really old. The drinkability is really good.

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Photo of Brian700
4.29/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a very dark brown with basically very little to no head. The smell makes up for the lack of head. I must admit that
I pre-judged this beer by its average appearance before trying it.

The smell is roasty and chocolatey but it also has fruit notes present. It smells like there are plums or dates there as well. It's a nice blend and adds complexity to this brew.

The flavor follows the nose on this beer because it to is roasty and chocolatey but it is blended with the fruity flavor of raisins and dates. Very tasty indeed.

The mouthfeel is good. Medium carbonation and medium body. This is a very drinkable beer. I like it alot and will probably be going back to the store to pick up a few more of these. It is kind of pricey considering that the bottles are only 8.82 fl. oz. None the less I highly recommend trying this one.

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Photo of horndecker
4.77/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2000. Curious to see if this is a bit long in the tooth, or if it has some longevity.

The color is inky black with the odd raspberry red highlight. A fine tan head flares and settles, leaving some sticky suds.

The smell is lots of chocolate, a faint grassy hop, a hint of cherries, all of it rather earthy and dark. Some espresso notes at the end.

The taste is chocolate, roasted malt, almost malted milk, slight burnt flavors, but not edgy, very smooth. There is a mild bitterness which tempers the chocolate center, and leads to a dusty cocoa aftertaste.

It seems to have a bit less fruit than younger bottles I have had. The coffee/espresso contribution seems to diminish as well. Still a great beer, and beautifully put together. Enjoyed for it's earthier character.

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Photo of mntlover
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark with a tan head that falls to a cap and leaves some spotty lace behind.

Aroma is malty chocolate lots of fruity esters some caramel also noted.

Taste is chocolate malt nice roasted flavors mixed with fruit nice carbonation makes it feel zesty then fades to creamy with some light coffee flavors in the finish.

Mouthfeel is nice smooth with some active carbonation that is felt also.

Drinkability is good a nice porter. A bit pricey for what it is but still nice.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.3/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

The beer poured into the glass translucent clear and yet pitch black with a frothy yet low tan head which coated the glass from top to bottom.

The aroma was strong chocolate with dark caramel and a licorice note thrown in for good measure. The aroma had some distinct roastiness.

The flavor was chocolate, but dry dark chocolate. Caramel was present, but it wasn't a sweet and malty contribution. The flavor was roasty and the bittering from the roasty grains was harsh. That bitter harshness was not well done at all.

The finish was dry with lasting bitter expresso and chocolate flavors that lasted just a bit too long into the aftertaste. The body was medium and well achieved. The bittering from the roasted grains really detracted from the enjoyment of this beer. The flavors and finish were harsh and not the stuff of world class beer.

16.9 ounce bottle. Best before April 2010 (April 2010...5 years and I certainly did not purchase this yesterday! Perhaps if I had it would have been better, or perhaps I should have waited till 2010!)

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Photo of silver0rlead
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours an opaque black, with a thick tan head that retains nicely, a fine looking porter. Smell is an intriguing mix of coffee, chocolate, roasted malt and a smokiness thats hard to place. Taste had coffee flavors along with a sweet chocolate malt taste and and a smokey roasted flavor that is mild but noticeable. The finish is pleasantly dry and bitter, a nice crisp finish to a flavorful porter. The mouthfeel is creamy and smooth but the carbonation is moderate and adds a nice crispness to the beer. Overall an excellent porter, this is my first baltic porter and im looking forward to trying some more.

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Photo of amherstdrew
4.29/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Opened my last bottle (16.9 oz) of the 2001 with great anticipation. Poured into a pint glass. I picked up this bottle along with one other at Spirit Haus in MA, but drew the wrath of a smart cashier who somehow knew that they were the last two bottles in the store. He told me he had a case waiting at home, and then it was my turn to give the glare. Sometimes you just wish there was more to go around...

smell: deep and rich like a late night thunderstorm... strong like coffee bean with a hint of molasses.

pours: maroon and then dark in the glass, minimal tan head which diminishes after about 15 seconds.

taste: delicious. low carbonation, but evident enough that there is a little zing apparent underneath the initial creaminess. the creaminess is refreshing, kind of like the froth at the edge of a wave coming in, with a nice cool finish lying underneath. after taste is like a deep oak, or moist rye bread. leaves a little zing on the middle of the tongue that helps the flavor linger.

as the beer goes.... eases up a little bit. a slight sweetness creeps in, maybe figs or bittersweet chocolate. frankly I think this beer might need another two years to mature and even out a bit. a little less carbonation and a little smoother finish might help it out. that said, it's really a quite good experience. there aren't a lot of great porters out there -- or at least that are accessible -- but i think it's one of the better ones. that said, i'll still take the sinebrychoff over this one. that beer leaves you with a little more at the end of the night, whereas this is a great one to sit in front of the fireplace on a rainy evening and enjoy. hope to find more in the future...

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Photo of lackenhauser
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage-Pours a deep,deep ruby brown-borders on black but theres some great ruby highlights visible when held to the light. No real head to speak of. Low aroma-some roasted malt and a low level of yeastiness. Great big malty flavor-not overly astringent as some porters can be. Nice blend of chocolate and roasted malt. Mild bitterness. Lingering sweetness-somewhat trecle like in the finish. Wonderful body. An excellent beer and an even better porter-Baltic or otherwise. Very well balanced and rounded. At $5 a bottle I would like to see this in an affordable 6 or 4 pack. This could become a common occurance!

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Photo of ypsifly
3.62/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1997 vintage 8.82oz bottle poured into a goblet.

Almost black with so little carbonation there is no head, or anything on top.

Notes of molasses and chocolate malts. Smells very stout like. Slight oxidation noticable.

The taste is very mellow. Chocolate is the dominant flavor, but there isn't much body to this beer. The lack of carbonation and fading of any hops over time leave this brew with zero bite and a rather weak mouthfeel.

I think this one might be past prime.

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Photo of MrSeth
3.45/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tumbler a brown color, but ends up basically an opaque black color in the glass. Thin tan head, fizzles out quickly - no retention, carbonation is still apparent on the surface.

It smells like a porter right away. But not much of a nose.. just some rich coffeeish and molasses with just a hint of smoke and hops.

Light-medium bodied, but seems light for a porter.. lots of carbonation grabs the tongue. I like a porter that shows this much carbonation, but it is really strong this time around. Medium rich malt flavor, but not smokey or toasty.. kind of plain in that regard. As far as the hops, it's vaguely hoppy. Not foward like an American porter and not as subtle as a British.. Eh.. it is highly drinkable though.

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Photo of Wonka
4.68/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

1 Pint. 9 Fl. Oz.

I had one at Ludwig’s Garten in Philly a few weeks back and I had to come back for a review after I found it locally.

Appearance – spot on color with the black core and the light barely sneaking by at the fringes; monumental, frothy mocha head that holds long; lace is respectable, but it could be better-bringing in down from perfect

Smell – chocolate, molasses, some vanilla and dark fruit; the least exciting portion of the package but I still almost stamped it a 4.5

Taste – big malts; molasses and dark chocolate straight from the Whitman’s Sampler; coffee; vanilla comes through which was a certain pleasantry; bitterness comes through in close but its not overpowering

Mouthfeel – incredibly lush to the close where the desert sets in; carbonation is perfect

Drinkability – turnover is so easy, but that dryness sets it back just a bit

Undeniably, D. Carnegie’s porter is top shelf.

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Photo of Gagnonsux
4.01/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage. Color is pitch black with a large, tan head. The aroma is rather light and has an earthy malt smell. The taste of of earthy malts with a roasted edge. Coffee and chocolate are noted. Finish is sweet and stays with you. A nice hop body provides complexity and balance. Very good porter here, definently would like this one in my fridge again.

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Photo of canucklehead
3.65/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a 1997 bottle from Archer's Ale House in Bellingham. The beer was black as black with minimal head. The nose was winy and old fruity. The taste was aged and vinous with the burnt malts in the background. I felt that this bottle was maybe too old as the midbody seemed slightly hollow. I know that this beer can be cellared eventhough it is only 5.5% but I feel the low abv may have let some of the bigger flavours dissipate. I enjoyed this beer but wanted a bigger set of flavours.

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Photo of oberon
4.32/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep brown almost black with some ruby highlights with a creamy-like off -white head,aromas of chocolate xhip cookie dough and dark roast coffee really made me want to tear into this offering.Flavors as expected were malt dominated some dark roast coffee and bittersweet chocolate along with some raisin.Deeply flavorful and a nice creamy mouthfeel makes this porter one of the better I have had in quite awhile,I think my first Swedish beer that I have had.

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Photo of GClarkage
3.56/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

4/17/05- Purchased at a wine and spirits store in Sonoma, CA

Presentation- 8.8oz bottle, vintage 1997, poured into my Corsendonk tulip.

Appearance- Dark and lightly sryupy pour, no head or lacing whatsoever.

Smell- Very sweet, almost like a prune juice scent. Alcohol fumes as well. Interesting.

Taste- Raisins, prunes, raosted malt in the background with maybe a light coffee grounds flavor. Maybe, just maybe a touch of super dark chocolate as well.

Mouthfeel- Pretty watery, almost like a watered down coffee liquor.

Drinkability- Not bad, but definitely not worth the $4.95 I paid for this not even 9oz of liquid. Worth a try if you can find it for cheaper, but still not a great baltic IMO.

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Photo of Sammy
4.12/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 edition. A very smooth porter, with some sourness. Very Black and very roasty and other herbs, including fennel aroma and possibly peppermint is very attractive. Chocolate malts Wee small bottle goes pretty quickly. Encourages trying other Swedish brews.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque mahogany, although far from a black hole, with orange and garnet accents. Atop the beer is a splendid looking cap of dense foam the color of chocolate chip cookie dough (sans chocolate chips). Too bad it doesn't last all that long and doesn't leave much lace.

The nose is a bit weaker than it should be. Come on, you're a Baltic porter man, smell like one! It's still pleasant, but the greats of the style have no need to worry. I smell roasted malt, a little chocolate and a minor burst of fruity hops. More power and more complexity would be nice, but it gets the job done.

Stark Porter is identifiable as a Baltic porter, although it doesn't clear the style bar by much. It's definitely on the lighter end of the spectrum and isn't really much bigger than the typical American porter in terms of flavor intensity and body. Having said all that, it is a rather tasty combination of chocolate liqueur and black coffee.

I also appreciate molasses notes with an accompanying fruitiness that must be due to hops. There's also a lactic sweetness attempting to fight through the moderate finishing bitterness. Perhaps this beer could be called a milk Baltic porter, akin to a milk stout. With warming, the mouthfeel (and the flavor) finds its mojo and, thence, respectability.

D.C. & C. SP is good beer, but it falls well short of the Perkuno's Hammers and Sinebrychoffs of the world. My penchant for more full-bodied beer means that I love the Baltic porter style. It also means that my praise of this one is something less than full-throated.

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Photo of WesWes
4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome! It has a very powerful and rich black malt aroma that is sweet and slightly coffeelike. It is creamy and highly complex. The taste is great. It has a creamy chocolate/coffee flavor that is rich and smooth finishing. It seems high in alcohol, but the label says it's only 5.5%. It has a slightly bitter hop flavor as well. This is a very well balanced porter. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a terrific brew. It is so rich in black malts. It's a very smooth drinking porter.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
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