Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden | website

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Reviews:
348
Ratings:
566
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
13.83%
 
 
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64
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39
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Photo of CRJMellor
4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours black with red highlights, thin light tan head with very minor lace.
Aroma of chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malt, some butterscotch, peat and a wheat bread note.
Flavor of heavy chocolate, some smoky roasted malt and a yeasty quality and very minor herbal bitterness.
Mouthfeel is semi-sweet moving to a very sweet and somewhat vinous middle that is cut short by a relatively tasteless bitterness.
Drinkability is very high. Probably defines the style as well as any beer.

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Photo of NJpadreFan
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

D. Carnegie & Co. Argang 2001

My first Swedish beer!

appearance- Dark red/ black with a nice creamy tan head.

smell- Coffee!

taste- smooth coffee and a light chocolate flavor.

mouthfeel- a hint of alcohol and a slight bitterness.

overall- a nice porter that goes down well. Simple review- beer wasn't too complex.

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Photo of jahred
4.21/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tried this at the Feb. Goose Island "Beer Academy."

Pours a dark black color with a medium white head. There's a slight, but very pleasant and medicinal coffee malt scent.

The taste, though, is quite strong and forward. A nice roasted malt taste up fromt, followed by thick, rich and creamy coffee flavors. The word tasty comes to mind. Perhaps the best description is that this is a coffee milk shake with caramel swirled in (and 5.5% ABV!)

As pointed out at the event, the beer is only 5.5% abv, but has a "best before" date of April 2010. Can a beer such as this age well? For so long? Only one way to find out...

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Photo of merlin48
3.82/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2001 vintage with "best before 2010" on label. Pours an opaque, almost pitch black with a tan head that quickly drops into patchy and collar lacing. Aroma of burnt coffee, smoke, licorice, and a hint of chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, creamy, and has a mild peppery bite. Taste is similar to the nose, with burnt coffee, smokiness, licorice, and spicy, dry, bittering hops. Very drinkable, and a nice Porter, but nothing outstanding at this stage. I was surprised by the "best before" date being a several years down the road. This one will probably be much better in a couple of years.

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Photo of RoyalT
3.77/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance – Very dark in color with a nice, tanned head that showed decent retention and left a little lacing.

Smell – This aroma is nice. There’s some good coffee and chocolate notes to go along with the classic roasted malts. I can also pick up small traces of cocoa, anise, molasses, and some kind of sugar (maybe pure cane).

Taste – The smaller notes from the nose came out bigger at the taste. The chocolate and anise were prominent, but the molasses all but disappeared. This is not a super-dark porter; it’s more of a lighter one in the classic sense.

Mouthfeel – This was medium-bodied. I thought the mouthfeel was the weak point of the porter. The flavors were kind of clumsy and could maybe benefit from cellaring.

Drinkability – This went great with my Stoned Bratwurst and sauerkraut.

Comments – I had the 2001 vintage. Even though it is going on three years old I would recommend cellaring this for another three. I’m not a big “cellaring” fan but I think the flavors here just need some more time to get to know each other.

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Photo of aracauna
3.5/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The body is very dark reddish-brown with a head that starts to fizz but stops before dissipating, which it does, eventually. The aroma is light, mostly a bit of chocolate. The flavor is vinuous, a bit of raisin and chocolate followed by a faint bit of char.

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Photo of Mitchster
4.82/5  rDev +17%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours out to a very dark brown with mahogany accents, near black. Forms a thin tan head with poor retention and sparse lacing despite a heavy handed pour. Carbonation is mild. Aroma is very nice, with suggestions of fruits, dates, prunes, chocolate, vanilla, coffee. Clean ferment. Mouthfeel is full and soft with a dense body and luxurious finish. Taste is wonderful...a capitulation of the aroma with the addition of tobacco, a suggestion of woody dryness towards the finish, and a brisk, clean twangy finish. There is a hint of metal towards the middle, but tends to disappear over time. There is a very nice roasted character with a hint of chalk in the mix. Alcohol is imperceptable, and there are absolutely no off-flavors. Bert Grant...eat your heart out. "Perfect Porter" my ass...

This is an amazing porter, besting many stouts. Very pleasantly surprised by this, and I would highly recommend it to my porter loving friends. The drinkability is amazing. I could easily put away 3 of these 17 oz bottles back without noticing. Complex, yet extremely satisfying without fatigue on the tastebuds. My last gulp was as good or better than the last. Wow.

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Photo of drewbage
4.02/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled from 16.9 fl oz brown bottle from the 2001 Vintage.

Beer is close to black, with enough transmittivity to allow ruby highlights. Head is down low and tan with a quickly disappiating head.

Aroma is dried cherries, raisins and the like and a caramel coffee tone to the finish.

The flavor starts with a good malt chew before being chased off by a blackstrap molasses and a spicy hop zing that lets the finish ride with a long coffee bite that lingers

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Photo of francisweizen
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage, best by April 2010. Cost me like $5 at my local store...way overpriced, I know. Anyway this was a nice strong porter. It poured a deep black colour with a tan/beige head of foam. The aromas were all deep roasted chocolate and caramel malts with some lovely citric hops in the background and on the finish. The taste was similar to the aromas with some lovely roasted malts and hops blending together for a nice chocolatey/caramely taste of wonder. The mouthfeel was creamy, thick, and almost "chewy" and the drinkability is damn good as well!

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Photo of DESTRO
4.67/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

whoa nelly. 16.9oz bottle, 2001 vintage. pours dark, pretty damn close to pitch black. lovely lace and lively carbonation. one whiff of this and its heaven, big sweet aromas of raisins and maple syrup, molasses and chocolates with some coffee undertones. nice roasted flavors kick things off without being overkill and then comes the sweet candies and raisins, a touch of vanilla and a bit smoke all coming courtesy of a slick smooth mouthfeel and you cant help but get stoked. also, the more it warms the more the alcohol kick becomes evident. almost too drinkable. "THE" porter as far as i am concerned. oh snaps!

paid $1.99 for a 16.9oz bottle.

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Photo of ManekiNeko
4.38/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Argang 2001 served at cellar temp in a pint glass.

Appearance: Black with some lovely ruby highlights. Topped by a healthy tan head that settles down to a thin layer of bubbles at the surface. Nice splotches of lace are left as the glass is emptied.

Smell: Dark bitter coffee smell and dried fruit aromas (prunes, raisins, figs). Roasted malt provides the backdrop on which the other smells are hung.

Taste: Bittersweet coffee flavor with a nice roasted malt backing, almost smoky at times. The dried fruits show up in the taste as well. Nummy.

Mouthfeel: Hearty medium body, slightly creamy. Smooth.

Drinkability: Why can't the Swedish bikini team shill for this? Man, they had to stop making this stuff after I got hooked. And I snagged the last bottle in this area that I know of. Oh, cruel fate! *sniff* Anyways, enough ranting. This is a superb Baltic, I'd even hazard to say a benchmark for the style. Perfect for a crisp, late fall day like I just had.

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Photo of Brent
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 Vintage. Black with some ruby tinge. Of the Baltic porters I've had so far, this is both the lightest flavored and lowest abv. Some very mild oxidation flavor present in the first few sips, but after the beer warmed it faded, or I just got used to it. Sharply sweet candy-ish aroma, almost surprising when the beer does not turn out to be particularly sweet in flavor. Carmelized fig and prune flavors, but in moderation. Finishes with a bit a acidity that cleans up nicely and leaves a pleasant sour bitterness at the roof of the mouth. Not really a fireside sipper like other Baltics, but overall more drinkable than its bretheren.

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Photo of mydeadguy
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage.

Pours black with ruby hints, fluffy tan head dissipates quickly. Scent is roasted malts, sweet fruits, and coffee, sort of a raisin bread odor, light sweet alcohol. Taste is sweet with roasted malts finishes with balanced hop flavours, slightly bitter.
Mouth is lightly carbonated, but full, round and chewy. Fades fast on the palate, makes me want another. Drinkability is high, could I have another (or 3) hell yeah. This is one fine brew, really a great porter, I love this stuff.

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Photo of woemad
4.82/5  rDev +17%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had this last night at the Viking. 2001 vintage. Poured an inky black, with a head somewhere between tan and mud-color. Rich odor, I got elements of chocolate, rich, roasted black coffee, dark fruits, and a beguiling smokiness. The taste was exquisite, silky smooth. Velvety chocolate and premium coffee, wrapped in a thin sheen of smoked malt. Truly a pleasure to drink. If this being axed, as I've heard other BAs say, I'm going to buy up as many of these as my resources will allow.

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Photo of Mustard
4.42/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: 16.9oz. brown bottle; årgång 2001; "best before" warning -- in this case April 2010 -- printed on the back label's bottom left corner; purchased for $2.29 from the West LA Whole Foods on National and Barrington.

Appearance: Nearly black in hue; ever so faint ruby hints emerge if held directly to a light; fudgy, mocha-tinged head; a fair c-cup's worth of lace, but head retention is rather poor.

Aroma: Hugely of cherries and chocolate with a nice, roasty bitterness in there as well.

Taste: Decidedly like its nose; surly notes of bittersweet cocoa, dark fruit and cherry wrestle one another like a pack of greasy monkeys; gentle, roasty bitterness in the finish; slight hint of grain; medium bodied with a smooth, silky mouthfeel.

Notes: Amazing flavor profile ... and at 5.5% ABV; not quite as tasty as my beloved Okocim, but not dramatically far off either; stellar beer.

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Photo of budgood1
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2001 vintage.
pours out a nearly opaque, dark crimson colour. thin wispy head and slight wisps of lace. sweet sugary aroma...raisins and molasses come to mind...hints of chocolate and caramel. upon first taste, the first thing to hit me was the extremely silky smooth and velvety mouthfeel...leading to swirling flavours of semi-sweet chocolate and slightly bitter espresso. a magnificent combination. a sweet but dry finish; lingering bitterness on the tongue. supremely drinkable and down right delicious. one of the best beers i have ever had the pleasure of drinking. i will be getting a stash of these for sure! excellent tonic for a blustery and cold day in north dakota/northern minnesota.

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Photo of jcalabre
3.35/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I originally sampled this beer 6 April 2003. I am writing this beer from my notes.
This porter is brownish black, but remarkably light in body. I think that if I had another bottle, that I would lay it down for a couple of years. It's not in it's prime yet. I think it has a lot of potential for aging

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Photo of SixpointJMH
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

found a few of the 1997 batch at my local store, so i picked one up and was not dissapointed. knew this one would be good from the get go. poured a deep brown, almost black. a nice head developed and moderately faded into a lasting lace. smells of sweetness dominated with hints of coffee and earthiness as well. while not as sweet as the smell, tastes included chocolate and caramel along with the afforementioned coffee. minimal carbonation here, which i enjoyed. a highly drinkable porter. perhaps even for those who may not enjoy heavier beers, as there's a bit of lightness to it as well. this was a very, very smooth brew that was enjoyable for every last sip. hopefully i can find a few more bottles. the swedes have themself a winner.

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Photo of granger10
4.19/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was a very sweet tasting porter. Lots of malts seem to be involved in the making of this. Chocolate malt is dominate. A creamy vanilla flavor ensues. After that I can't tell but there are more flavors, sweet ones. Roasted grains and roasted coffee hit me towards the finish. That balances the beer out and makes me want more. I really liked this one.

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Photo of TripelJ
4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

WOW! I hate to be trite, but WOW! This is an excellent porter! When I arrived at my usual spot this evening I was enticed into this by my publican. I was a bit skeptical at first, because he described it as 'tangy'. As I take my first sip, I am forced to agree, but not to the extreme I was expecting. This porter starts and ends on the sweet side and does have a very uniqe and very subtle sweet/sour characteristic--hence the 'tang'. I was befuddled to hear that this was only 5.5%, it has far more character than would be expected from such a low ABV beer (rates RIGHT up there with Stepin Razin, although a little sweeter and thus, different) I recommend letting this beer warm up a bit before imbibing, it is far more balanced when warmer.

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Photo of TheDM
3.86/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Oh yeah! A small head with medium to fine light brown bubbles that quickly fades away. A deep brown color almost black body. It has a very heavy aroma full of hops. Low carbonation with heavy flavor and coffee taste typical of a good dark porter. I found myself taking several sips to make my taste calls. It has a typical dark flavor with no aftertaste. The head is gone now as I complete this report. A very nice brew.

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Photo of nomad
4.42/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage - aged 2 years

This beer looked pretty much black, with a mocha-colored thin foam head and not much lace to speak of. Smell was smooth and complex, of malt, dark coffee, dark chocolate, but then some sweet corn-like smell that heavily malty beers sometimes exude.

Taste was thick, rich, and smooth, with some good sweet malt that was calm to the core. Very dark without ever being burdening on the palate, this beer had a very full and tasty roast flavor at the end. In fact, the toast and roast flavors continued to roll around my tongue, seeming to change but was actually just plain old captivating. Had a drying finish but just enough so.

Wish it wasn’t so expensive. Also hard to believe you can age it even more because it was not terribly exciting but definitely better than average. Very easy to drink and drink much of.

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Photo of tavernjef
4.62/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Feloniousmonk was nice enough to break out his last bottle of the 2001 vintage, thanks - this was quite worth it.

Color is dark brown with deep amber highlights with a pinky-finger high head of bumpy, lumpy dark ivory crown, no real lace qualities. Smell is of dark fruits - banana, starfruit, and mixes well with some real quaility darkened caramel sweetness from malts with a notes in toffeeness. Taste is soooo smooth of caramel, lots of maltyness, some great small bitterness of dark citrusy hops noting on banana and orange, notes of toffee, maple syrup, and a even a touch of chocolate lightly making an appearance in there, quite a nice subtle mixing in this offering. Very full bodied with an enormous amount of exceptional creamyness that just slides down making a home in every area of your senses. Wow, this was one great little amount of fun, so sad to see the last sip go.
Thanks again FM!

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Photo of AudioGilz
4.28/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

It's very dark, close to opaque with ruby highlights. A large fluffy tan head forms and then reduces to a small ring pretty quickly. I can't get a strong aroma out of it, just some chocolate and coffee. But drinking this is miles better than smelling. Strong roasted coffee comes through first, some dark fruits, alcohol warmth, and then slightly bitter bakers chocolate through the finish and aftertaste. It's thick, creamy, rich, and robust. It's only 5.5% ABV but the alcohol adds a certain character that kind of tricks you into thinking it's stronger. A kick ass porter from Sweden to say the least.

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Photo of Suds
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is simply an wonderful beer. Thick, velvety, chewy and portraying a wide range of roast malt flavors.
Color is solid black. Not really an impressive head, but what there is does dissolve into whispy, lace-producing clumps.
The aroma really doesn't match up with the extraordinary taste. Slight smoky, burnt/roast grain aroma, but it's not an in-your-face smell. The flavors do, however, come on strong with the first sip.
Full, impressive mouthfeel.
There's a background of a nice-hop bitterness that doesn't quite match the sweet malt, but the do play off one another nicely.
The bottom line is that this is one very good beer.

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