Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
579
Reviews:
353
Avg:
4.11
pDev:
10.71%
 
 
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Photo of Sammy
4.12/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 edition. A very smooth porter, with some sourness. Very Black and very roasty and other herbs, including fennel aroma and possibly peppermint is very attractive. Chocolate malts Wee small bottle goes pretty quickly. Encourages trying other Swedish brews.

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Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of Texasfan549
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of jaydoc
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.02/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2004 vintage with the Stark-Porter label.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson brown with a 1 inch foamy dark khaki head that settles to a thin cap. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of dark malt, dark fruit, dark sugar, vanilla, and some earthy tobacco-like aromas. Taste is of dark malt, dark dried fruit (prune/raisin), leather, smoke, tobacco, and slight cocoa nibs. There is a light roasty bitterness on the palate after each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good baltic porter and a rare treat that is around 8 years old. I am glad I picked one of these up to try.

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Photo of spycow
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

was fortunate enough to find a 2000 vintage bottle of this for just 13 bucks. the label reads best before November 2010, but im thinking its not past its prime at all. it pours a surprisingly lively darkest of browns, without any light at all able to pass through. the head is made up of micro bubbles of a lighter brown color. the head doesn't last, but its easily reinvigorated with a swirl of my globe. the nose on this is heavy chocolate, burnt malt, ash, and a gentle toffee tickle. it has an aged mellowness to it, very earthy and organic, with roasted barley and cocoa powder dominating up front. the finish is like all the best features of dusty leather, my grandpas attic, mature compost, and smoked pork. its just so complex and delicious. there is a funny astringent bitterness towards the finish and the alcohol stands out more than it should in a beer so low in abv, but other than that its phenomenal. the mouthfeel makes it for me, so gentle on the carbonation, and curiously dry for the style. I love the cocoa powder flavor, it transforms into a cocoa powder feel of sorts, really cool. age has definitely done wonders for this beer, and while ive never had a fresh one, I can assure you that this is one special porter. perhaps also my first beer from Sweden. memorable.

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Photo of djrn2
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

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4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of Knapp85
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ordered a bottle of this at the Allentown Brew Works once. I was shocked to see how much they were charging for this brew. I could have found it cheaper and which I would have let it in their cooler. Anyway, The beer poured out as a nice looking rich black color. The head was big and strong looking at first but settled down to just a thin tan creamy looking film over top of the brew. The lacing was light on the glass. The smell was full of roasted malts and just some minimal fruit elements shining through. The taste of the beer has a bold burnt bitterness up front, and some dark fruit sweetness which faded into a dark chocolate dry aftertaste. The mouthfeel of the beer had a decent thickness to it. Overall it was way too expensive at $15 a bottle. Should have been half that I think. But other than the price it was pretty good.

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Photo of t0rin0
2.75/5  rDev -33.1%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
4.32/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of metter98
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is nearly jet black in color (some traces of amber are visible at the edges of the glass when it is held up to the light) and poured with a thin creamy tan head that faded into a thin ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass and lacy patterns in the center.
S: The smell isn't that strong, but has aromas of chocolate, licorice, molasses and roasted malts.
T: The taste is complex, well balanced and similar to the smell. There is a mild amount of bitterness in the finish that contrasts with a slight amount of sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a bit thin on the palate with a low to moderate amount of carbonation.
D: Unlike many of the beers In the style, this beer is extremely easy to drink; it wouldn't be difficult to have several of these in an evening because it isn't very filling.

Note: 2004 vintage

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Photo of kojevergas
3.29/5  rDev -20%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle into Westlveteren goblet in Stockholm, Sweden. Reviewed live.

A: One finger head of nice cream lacing, good thickness, and fair to bad retention. Colour is a solid black.

Sm: Raspberry fruit ester hops, cream, caramelized malt, and I assume barley. Me nose is broken; sorry lads.

T: Fruit estery body alongside nice cream, slight chocolate, and restrained caramelized malt. Complex enough. Built and balanced well, just not bold or inspired.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with adequate but not overdone coarseness and thickness. There is some strange dryness on the finish that isn't really welcome considering the dying ester flavour that accompanies it.

Dr: Average range ABV, very drinkable, and of a high price. The quality is nothing special.

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Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2004 bottling; tasted in 2010

Appearance: Pours a dark chocolate brown color with ruby highlights; the stout-like beige head turns rocky and does a decent job leaving some strands of lace behind

Smell: Chocolate and licorice, along with some dark fruit elements

Taste: Opens with an almost lactic chocolate flavor, with vanilla, licorice and dark fruit flavors developing by mid-palate; after the swallow, there is a little bit of hop balance that arrives, though the sweet, malty elements dominate from start to finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Certainly surprised that this beer has held up for so long, though at this stage I wouldn't put it in the top tier for the style; would be interesting to contrast with a fresher version

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Photo of emerge077
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 "Klass III" paper label on the front, blue B. United import label on back.

Very light bodied, roasted malt dominates the nose, coffee notes, light roasty bitterness in the taste. Not as robust as vintage versions it seemed. Smooth, coffee and bakers chocolate flavors. Fairly easy drinking, but one bottle satisfies the curiosity of the "Klass III" label, which wasn't too different from the original "Starkporter".

Thanks to Craig for this one!

11-15-2007

A- / 4.25 4/4/4.5/4/4.5

2001 on the label.

This is the 3rd bottle i've had, and xgabe's review convinced me to drink the one i've been cellaring. Cap makes a good pffft sound. Pours into a wide mouth chalice with a good finger of mocha foam. Color is black through the middle. It reduces itself to a skim quickly, but any head is impressive after 6 years in the bottle. A nice ring of foam remains.

Cola and dark fruit, some prune aroma. Almost doughy, it seems to have some yeast character left in it. No roast or boozy sweetness that's almost the norm in Baltic Porters.

Mellow mouthfeel with lower carbonation. It's lighter than some, but age is also a factor here. Much less sweetness than a fresher bottle.

Carob flavor is intertwined with prune, chocolate, tobacco leaf, and a somewhat musty character. A smooth sipper that has no trace of alcohol. It's more of a dessert/nightcap type of thing. Great way to end my Swedish session after a couple IPAs.

It's a #1 cellar candidate, keep several as long as you can, that's my advice.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
4/5  rDev -2.7%

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4/5  rDev -2.7%

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3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of oberon
4.32/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep brown almost black with some ruby highlights with a creamy-like off -white head,aromas of chocolate xhip cookie dough and dark roast coffee really made me want to tear into this offering.Flavors as expected were malt dominated some dark roast coffee and bittersweet chocolate along with some raisin.Deeply flavorful and a nice creamy mouthfeel makes this porter one of the better I have had in quite awhile,I think my first Swedish beer that I have had.

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Photo of chinchill
3.52/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Undated 330ml bottle served in a Belgian snifter.

Pours very dark reddish-brown, clear with a tan head of moderate size and retention. Spotty lacing.

Aroma: dark and smoked malts with a hint of dried dark fruits.

Flavor: dark fruits, dark bread, light smoke and a hint of coffee.

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Photo of NeroFiddled
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2001. Pours a very deep mahogany brown with a reddish cast when held to the light; but appears black in the glass beneath a creamy light-tan head. The head holds fairly well at first but soon dissipates to just a thin collar and some whispy surface foam.The nose expresses a sweet vanilla-laced caramel maltiness and some light, yeasty fruitiness. The body is medium; and it combines with a fine, moderate carbonation to leave it creamy and smooth in the mouth. The flavor is bold; and displays a vanilla/butter/caramel maltiness up-front, and a bit of chocolate towards the swallow along with some earthy/herbal hop flavors and a dull bitterness. It finishes bready with some residual sugary maltiness (molasses, brown sugar, light milk chocolate) and a drying bitterness. Quite exceptional! A classic Baltic porter that's well worth trying.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 release, acquired from DrJay courtesy of the Birthday Club 2, so a big “Thank you” goes out to him. Poured from a 16.9oz. bottle into a mug glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color with a short off-white head that fades very slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is full of dark fruit, roasted malts and some chocolate with a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet and very fruity with flavors of raisins, cherries and chocolate. Then a little bit of smokiness and a hearty malt character provide a lot of substance. Next a mild hops presence comes in to give a good balance. Despite the sweet start, the after-taste is smoky and slightly bitter.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium-to-heavy body, light-to-medium carbonation, slightly sticky finish.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, slightly filling, excellent representation of style, this is a nice beer to sit and relax with, but even though it is got a mild kick, it does not like a beer that I would want to drink a bunch of. Nonetheless, it is a very good beer overall.

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