Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden | website

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
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348
Ratings:
565
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
13.83%
 
 
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Photo of xav33
3.34/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Revisit #1

D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter
8.82 Fl Oz bottle (size?)
Argang 1997, absorbed 09/06
Medium pour in a tulip glass.

Poured black with some faint brown highlights. Absolutely no head or carbonation.

Smelt of strong molasses, raisins, smoke, roasted grain, moderate vinous alcoholic qualities.

Taste was upfront strong bitter stale bread, cardboard, and cobwebs with light molasses and dried plum sweetness followed by a moderate bitter cobwebs, tar, hazelnut and yeast bitterness and light molasses sweetness on a light moderate length finish.

Palate was light to medium bodied, oily to a dry finish, barely any carbonation, just a slight tingle on the palate, and lightly astringent.

Overall, it definitely tastes old. It's very interesting how it developed, although there is definitely a stale bread flavor. It aged nicely and is very interesting to try, with very subdued, balanced and intriguing new flavors. Past its prime though. Still enjoyable.

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Photo of Zimbo
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2009 Vintage

Ingmar Bergman, Strindberg, Peter Forsberg, Michael Thelvin and Abba use to come to mind when I thought of Sweden's contribution to civilization. Now I have to include the astounding Carnegie Porter as well having just polished off a bottle in short work.

Poured partially into an ISO tasting glass with the lion's share in a high tumbler.

Lovely soft dark chocolately roasty nose. Pours a dark brown black which while perhaps not a crystal clear in colour as I might have expected but gives a deep brown shine at the bottom of the glass. Slick slightly rocky tan head.

Beautiful smooth roasty chocolate-like taste to start. Velvety suave medium firm body. Effortlessly luscious but controlled chocolate and wonderfully succulent. Classy, firm, restrained, luxurious, complete.

Undoubtedly benchmark porter. Class in a glass. Let the prostrating begin.

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Photo of Realale
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1998 version, but purchased in 2002.

Deep reddish brown, with definite black overtones. No head at all - just little wisps of foam.

Nose is licorice, but the really good yeasty, bready kind of licorice. Supporting date and raisin notes as well.

Very malty on the palate. Lots of licorice again, but nice acidity and bitterness add complexity and keep the residual sweetness from becoming cloying. An interesting take on a Porter.

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Photo of neorunner
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Great Lakes snifter. Medium thick creamy head dispersed with large bubbles. Chocolate black in color with no visible carbonation. Aroma is a strong almond note and some fusel alcohol. Mouthfeel is creamy just a touch above thin, definitely not a stout. Finish is dry across the tongue and and on the roof of the mouth. Flavor is a good subtle roast with a mellow chocolate flavor.

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Photo of irishevans
4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

pours a fairly opaque black/brown with a thin yet foamy mother of peral head. it smells like a malty wee heavy with some earthy notes. tastes like your staple porter but with a unique twist of cherries or grapes or prehaps even currents. it has the classic porter mouth-feel with a hopy finish, overall tasty. easy drinking porter, and will last this 06 vintage says best before 2016. for certin worth your time and cellar space.

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Photo of PartyBear
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pure black body, with a thick creamy head.

S - The first thing that hit me was an inviting warm liquorish smell, that seemed to linger. There was also a scent of sweet molasses, and a faint chocolate coming through.

T - The warm liquorish that dominated the smell comes through with authority in the taste. It's also somewhat creamy with a hint of chocolate.

M - This is without a doubt full bodied, and it has the taste to pull it off. There is a strong dry persistent aftertaste.

D - This is a heavy porter, with a powerful aftertaste. Put simply this is an awesome brew, and needs to be tried. I will definitely be stocking up a few of these to be drinking over winter.

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Photo of DESTRO
4.67/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

whoa nelly. 16.9oz bottle, 2001 vintage. pours dark, pretty damn close to pitch black. lovely lace and lively carbonation. one whiff of this and its heaven, big sweet aromas of raisins and maple syrup, molasses and chocolates with some coffee undertones. nice roasted flavors kick things off without being overkill and then comes the sweet candies and raisins, a touch of vanilla and a bit smoke all coming courtesy of a slick smooth mouthfeel and you cant help but get stoked. also, the more it warms the more the alcohol kick becomes evident. almost too drinkable. "THE" porter as far as i am concerned. oh snaps!

paid $1.99 for a 16.9oz bottle.

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Photo of 51mmz0rz
4.67/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2004 bottle, poured into a Hoegaarden glass, because that's all I had.

A: Pours with a frothy head, nice with a very dark red body when held up to the light.

S: Really inciting smell of sweet roastiness. Powerful and almost milky.

T: Same sweet roastiness, I love dark malt flavor, this is pretty complex on the finish.

M: Thinner than I would like, but good that it isn't too sweet. Carbonation might be a little high, not a deal killer though.

D: I have to give this a great rating for being pretty clean and refreshing for the style.

Baltic porters are my favorite style, and this is really delicious as I would expect. Lighter than most types of this style, but its a nice change.

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Photo of rkhaze
4.77/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured a really dark chestnut color. Small, quickly disappating tan head.
Deep classic aromas of sweet roasted malt, coffee and dark chocolate.
Big complex rich flavors of earthy, heavily roasted malt, coffee, bittersweet chocolate and smidges of cola and licorice. It had a tangy sweetness and finished mildly acidic with a pleasant hop bitterness and a whisper of tobacco. Good stuff! Let this one warm up a bit.
Medium bodied with a full, creamy and chewy mouthfeel. Good amount of carbonation.
Excellent beer and supreme drinkability!

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Photo of ChopperSmith
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a large 25 oz. brown bottle into a standard pint glass. "Argäng 2004" vintage.

Appearance: A thick dark brown color, nearly jet black...little to no light gets through when held to the light. Has a short lived foamy tan head that dissipates quickly and leaves a little light lacing. Tiny carbonation bubbles, but not nitro.

Smell: Like caramel and chocolate malts. Slight sour notes. Almost smells like a pan of dark chocolate brownies!

Taste: Dark chocolate, caramel, coffee beans all come through...this is a stout and malt lovers dream! Rich and complex stout flavors, but no single flavor is overpowering. It's a smooth chocolate-coffee-caramel tasting malty brew with just the right amount of light carbonation to let the flavors shine. If you like Guinness Draught...try this. It's got a ton more flavor!

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied, creamy, light carbonation makes this a smooth one to drink down.

Drinkability: Stout lovers (and I am one) will really enjoy this world class stout. A huge mouthful of flavor with every sip (and the flavors only get better as it warms). Will definitely seek this one out again when I'm in the mood for a flavorful stout!

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Photo of jakester
3.92/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I bought this as a single at Union Jack's on the Manatawny. I drank it in a goblet. This is the 2004 version. It comes in a 16.9 oz. bottle.

Pours an absolutely pitch black with active carbonation visible on the sides of the glass. A nice, two fingered head of beige colored foam forms on top, drops to a good coating and a ring, with very nice lacing.

Aroma is mostly chocolate, with a slight coffee background.
There is also some kind of chalky, metallic smell in there. I think I can detect licorice as well. The metallic aroma becomes a little too much as it warms.

First flavor is sweet chocolate, with a hint of coffee. This tastes much better than it smells. I actually started holding my breath as I sipped. Pretty darn clean for a two year old, small alcohol beer. Licorice is in there, I think, and fruit flavors like very dark rum soaked cherries. Aftertaste is dark, sweet, and mellow.

Mouthfeel is fairly smooth and creamy, with a high level of residual sweetness. Pretty full bodied. Carbonation is low to medium. Finish is smooth and luscious.

If it wasn't for the smell, this would be outstanding. I honestly held my breath for every sip, trying not to ruin the taste. The flavor is really good. And actually, after 15 minutes or so, the smell went away. One I'd have again. I'd just open it and let it breathe for a while.

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Photo of swizzlenuts
3.74/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a thick black with a nice one cm head.

S: There isn't much nose on this one, but a bit of roasted malts.

T: A dark roasted flavour, with a slight bit of hops. This beer is balanced. The malts, hops, and undertones are nice. It's quite nice because of the balance.

M: Nice mouthfeel.

D: Very Drinkable.

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Photo of MADhombrewer
4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is the first time I have had this beer. I did not know it was considered a Baltic Porter. I picked up this bottle "blind".
I poured it into a pint glass.

A- Dark brown to black with brown around the edges.
nice tight head that went away rather quickly
but left lots of lacing behind.

S- Great aroma! Lots of chocolate and a little
smoke.

T- Wow! Very creamy with a tad bit of tang to it as it hits the back of your tongue. Great flavor! Again, lots of chocolate notes.

M- Great mouthfeel! It seams to "fill" your mouth even with a small sip. It coats your whole mouth and lingers after you swallow.

D- Very drinkable! I could have these all night if I could, alas I only have one (right now). I WILL get more next time I am at the beer store!

So with that, I will leave to enjoy this more.

Cheers!

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Photo of Richardberg
3.96/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: poured from a bottle into a stemless wine glass. Thin cola-colored liquid. No head to speak of.

S: very interesting! Dark syrupy malts, prune, licorice, bitter orange.

T: similar notes from the aroma, but far more dominated by the malty flavors.

M: not bad but too thin for a porter. just enough carbonation to keep things interesting.

D: considering the thin body and low ABV, I found it surprisingly difficult to drink. enjoyable and all, but I'm not sure I'll pick up another.

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Photo of brakspear
4.66/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

1998 Vintage...perhaps just a bit past its peak flavor.

This Baltic porter slides from its tiny 8.8 oz bottle with all kinds of dark ebony goodness...deep pitch in color --only the brightest light can penetrate...a very slight tan head forms but fades quickly like a morning fog.

The aroma is nothing short of inspired...deep rich roasted malt aromas rise to the fore with raisins and fruits far in the distance...wow.

The taste is complex, roasted malts, vinous peaks and valleys, and a slight tang. Ages well as the flavors seem to have both ripened and mellowed over time. Very easy to drink as well. A beer to be savored and enjoyed whilst dreaming of the finer things in life.

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Photo of chicagoabbot
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I was pretty close to giving this one a 5 on taste too...alas, it's only about four layers of flavor deep. Damn, this is a great porter. Deep rich color out of the bottle and into the glass. 2010 vintage. Baltic baby. Smell is super complex. There's a lot going on here and I inhale deeply with every sip. Lots of depth on the tongue. Malty. Well balanced. I almost should change that to a 5 on taste. This is a perfect Baltic porter. Mouthfeel is energetic but silky. Highly recommended.

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Photo of horndecker
4.77/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2000. Curious to see if this is a bit long in the tooth, or if it has some longevity.

The color is inky black with the odd raspberry red highlight. A fine tan head flares and settles, leaving some sticky suds.

The smell is lots of chocolate, a faint grassy hop, a hint of cherries, all of it rather earthy and dark. Some espresso notes at the end.

The taste is chocolate, roasted malt, almost malted milk, slight burnt flavors, but not edgy, very smooth. There is a mild bitterness which tempers the chocolate center, and leads to a dusty cocoa aftertaste.

It seems to have a bit less fruit than younger bottles I have had. The coffee/espresso contribution seems to diminish as well. Still a great beer, and beautifully put together. Enjoyed for it's earthier character.

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Photo of kosmoraios
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep black with a 1-finger, creamy tan head that lingers and laces the glass nicely. Aroma is of good chocolate and ripe fig.

Taste is wonderfully complex, with dark chocolate, ripe plum, creamy caramel toffee. Some toasted dark bread as it warms. Very nice and light, but not too light, for a porter.

Mouthfeel is creamy and well textured with ample carbonation to aid the finish. Amazingly drinkable BP that I will be returning to.

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Photo of stegmakk
4.11/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 bottle
Color is DARK brown almost black. Head was a nice tan but dissapeared quickly. Smelled a little coffe flavor but it was too metallic to give it a higher rating. The taset was great. There wasn't much of the metal flavor. It is a nicely blended porter. Not too coffee like, but just enough. It had a smooth slightly thick feel. Definately a good porter. Definately worth getting again.

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Photo of gbontrag
4.42/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

50F. 97 Vintage, just like the picture.

Black, no head just a few tan bubbles. Looks a reflection of motor oil in a glass.
Smell a bit of yeast, vinous alcohol, and barley soda pop.
oh my god, that's beautiful. Melted bittersweet Callebaut chocolate with bubbles. A little prune syrup, a bit oily like blackstrap molasses. Leaves a puff of deisel smoke as it departs. A very economical beverage. Meaning it's not so layered, or thick and fruity, or hopped up that it jumps all over the palate as if it were a trampoline. This beer is smooth with a smoky bite, with easy barley fruitiness, balanced alcohol and carbonation that reminds me of the difference in ride between my HONDA civic and a towncar. Many beers are variations of a civic: Good rides with personal embellishments that make the civic unique. This Baltic porter gives a ride like a towncar, smooth. Loved it, and could drink buckets of it.

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Photo of ChrisBowers
4.32/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 vintage poured from the bottle. Very little carbonation, coffee like darkness. Aroma was sweet, chocolately. Taste wasn't quite what I was expecting, but excellent nonetheless. We're talking Frappucino type cafe mocha coffee/chocolate creaminess. Unlike almost anything I'd had in a beer. Sweet but not too sweet, lack of intense carbonation I'm sure helped. Very nice to savor in your mouth for a second. Nice complex notes of vanilla as well. Very very smooth and drinkable.... you could slug down the entire 9oz bottle and not even flinch, but what fun would that be?

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Photo of dauss
4.32/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 vintage
Presentation: 16.9 oz fat brown bottle with a yellow and black label, best before april 2010.

Smell: Intensely roasted malt, with a touch of expresso. Heavenly sweet aroma with a very light

Appearance: Pours a very dark ruby red that produces a medium fluffy tan head with fair retention. leaves a good amount of lacing on the glass.

Mouthfeel: light fizzy carbonation makes for a creamy mouthfeel, loads of coffee and chocolate. Light gentle bitterness and sweetness throughout the entire taste.

Notes: This is my first baltic porter and I like. Very taste and drinkable.

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Photo of Aenema
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

3/26
(2006 Vintage)
Appearance - Pours deep black with a fluffy, tan head.
Smell - Dark, roasty malts.
Taste - Strong coffee grounds, cocoa; not much sweetness or bitterness, just intense roastiness.
Mouthfeel - Smooth feel with a light-medium body. Lifting, low carbonation.
Drinkability - Enjoyable beer that has much more flavor than the abv would suggest.

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Photo of shippos
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2001 vintage

poured with a dark brown-black color with some brown ruby highlights in the bottom of the glass and a cream tan pillowy head.
complex aromas but I can pick out sweet milk with a earthy peated character and some chocolate. very smooth and rich mouthfeel when tasted cold but thins up a bit when it warms up. very balanced in it's flavors, it has a black malty bitterness that in the aftertaste. a very well brewed easily drinkable example.

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Photo of MrSeth
3.45/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tumbler a brown color, but ends up basically an opaque black color in the glass. Thin tan head, fizzles out quickly - no retention, carbonation is still apparent on the surface.

It smells like a porter right away. But not much of a nose.. just some rich coffeeish and molasses with just a hint of smoke and hops.

Light-medium bodied, but seems light for a porter.. lots of carbonation grabs the tongue. I like a porter that shows this much carbonation, but it is really strong this time around. Medium rich malt flavor, but not smokey or toasty.. kind of plain in that regard. As far as the hops, it's vaguely hoppy. Not foward like an American porter and not as subtle as a British.. Eh.. it is highly drinkable though.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
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