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Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
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351
Ratings:
572
Avg:
4.11
pDev:
13.87%
 
 
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Photo of mortarit
3.74/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I found this in the reduced price bend. It's ironic that I was looking for DuckRabbit Baltic Porter. I see this is the same style, awesome.

Great head that creates a full lacing effect while it last.

The alcohol isn't noticeable so it is easier to drink I think.
Has a nice toasty taste to it, hey I finally taste the caramel that everyone has mention in other post. It's rich concentrated taste.

This is a real easy drinking porter. I am surprise that I saw it in the reduce basket. I bought two of them so I will definitely enjoy the other one too.

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Photo of KFaulkner
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I think I've come across a little diamond in the rough here in my beer travels. Picked up a bottle of this Swedish beer in a hole-in-the-wall store in Hagerstown, Maryland. They have many in stock, reasonably priced.

Vintage is 2006, and I'd very much like to go back just to purchase another bottle and let it sit for a few years. Even at a modest 5.5% ABV, it seems this gem drinks best after 4 or 5 years in the bottle (based on other reviews).

I'm not sure I can add much to what has been said; a great interpretation of the Baltic Porter style. Dark colors and flavors, a beautiful head that stick to the glass with each sip. Toffee, currants, espresso, hazelnut/almond and an herbal aftertaste.

This is the first Swedish beer I have ever had, and who knew that I could thank them for something like this in addition to their meatballs, and my easy-to-assemble bed and dresser set.

Pick this up if you find it.

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Photo of Ninjakillzu
4.71/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

L: Poured into a Pint Defiance tulip. Body is a very dark brown with a thin tan ring around the glass.

S: Smells like a Belgian strong dark or a scotch ale. Caramel malt, dark fruits, roasted coffee, and dark chocolate.

T: Same as the nose. The roastiness is more apparent.

F: Medium light bodied with mild carbonation. Body is a bit watery on the finish.

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Photo of trancefishy
4.04/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

1997 vintage.

pours out thinnish looking, dark dark brown, nearly impermeable to light. zero head. a few largish bubbles, but they disappear and leave nothing save for the faintest ring around the edges.

aroma is a big kick in the olfactory pants. huge, tremendous malt character, yet very delicate. powerful smells of figs and plums, a bit vinous, some oak rambling around as well. cherries, grapes are there too. it doesn't smell fruity, but the elements are present. excellent aroma.

taste is the aroma, but in cool liquid form. malts are there again, but now the fruitiness is playing out a bit more. there is an nice grape taste and a bit of oak woodiness. nothing too distinctive, very mellow, with well married flavours. for whatever reason, this reminds me of balsamic vinegar. it doen't taste like vinegar in any way, but the flavours in balsamic are running around somewhere backstage. aftertaste is sweet and gentle.

mouthfeel is a bit thin, and certainly undercarbonated. i'm not sure if it would be bettter with more carbonation or not. this beer strikes me as delicate.

good stuff, interesting, and certainly the oldest beer i have ever drank. i am curious what the fresh, and in between fresh and 7 years tastes like.
good though, recommended.

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Photo of mully
3.33/5  rDev -19%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Black beer allow very little light in but some comes in around the edges. Dense khaki colored head creamy head

Minnerally nose sweetness was evident, some chocolate

tight, chaocolate clean tasting not heavy

light lacking not nearly as big as I had expected

good dark session beer not really strong in flavor

this was a decent beer but not outstanding.

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Photo of kylesobrien
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a deep dark shade of black. The ale is somewhat translucent, revealing a slight shade of tawny red if the glass is introduced to some form of backlight.

Head is a frothy, creamy brown. Dissipates somewhat a few minutes after pouring, but leaves a bit of lacy fringe around the rim of the glass.

Smell: Aroma is of dark bitter chocolate with slight fruity overtones and a vaguely winey character. I can't detect any hop character in the nose. I smell a reasonable amount of roasted malt as well.

Mouthfeel: Creamy with moderate body. Carbonation is slight, but noticeable.

Taste: The flavor is a delicious mix of chocolate, black coffee, and a smooth maltiness tinged with a slight and subtle hop bitterness. As the ale warms, the maltiness and chocolate character become more pronounced.

Drinkability: This porter is more full-bodied than some I've tried, but is surprisingly drinkable.

This is probably one of my favorite porters, and I attribute that to a good balance of tastes -- malty sweetness contrasted with a pleasant roasted bitterness. The coffee and chocolate flavors are agreeable because they remain mild in character. Unlike some stouts and porters, I could enjoy more than one of these and not feel overwhelmed by the flavor. I recommend this one to anyone looking for a tasty, drinkable porter to enjoy on a rainy autumn afternoon.

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Photo of fretlessman71
4.51/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pertinent Preliminary Comments: This is a bottle from 2001. Heard glowing comments about this from at least 2 people; had a bottle months ago and wasn’t too impressed. But I’m willing to give it a 2nd chance; hey, I’m Swedish, and people gave ME a 2nd chance, so why not?

APPEARANCE: Dr. Pepper brown with cherry highlights. Tan head, not too dense, not too big. Only a little bit of lacing.

AROMA: Fig, chocolate, espresso, black currant, bubblegum, banana even. Not much in the way of hops.

FLAVOR: Hearty roasted malt character; not quite burnt, but almost. Not too sweet, but just enough; smooth like a good Schwarz might be as well. Chocolate and coffee are strongest. Anise, charcoal, and pepper aren’t so strong but still detectable. A subtle metallic sourness as well – might be the hops poking through a bit. Much better than the first bottle I had – must have been mishandled.

MOUTHFEEL: Good weight to it; somewhat slick. Carbonation just right.

DRINKABILITY: VERY good. Hard to get bored of these, and at a whole 5.5% ABV (some Baltic!) you’ll have plenty of room for one more.

OVERALL COMMENTS: A big improvement over the first time. This is a really well balanced beer, with just enough to keep me interested over the long haul. Nice to see a brew with a lower ABV for lightweights like me, too. Now, if these only came in 6ers at a decent price...

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Photo of vladtheimpaler
4.78/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Had a perfectly treated and conditioned bottle. This was yummy. The conditioning of this beer is outstanding. Smooth Chocolate/Coffee malt flavor. Hops have been reduced to the background (through conditioning). Aroma has that beautiful, fruity, toffee, oxidized note that makes every sip enjoyable. This beer stands out and is worth seeking. I must warn everyone about mistreated bottles, though...

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Photo of BikeChef
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2006 the bottle says. Pours a deep dark brown, with a lacy head. Smells of dried fruits and roasty-ness. Mmmmm... this is a very nice porter. Molasses mixed with more dried fruits and toast in a very drinkable beer. Tastes bigger than its 5.5%. Wish this was more affordable in the US-- I'd drink this all fall and into the winter.

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Photo of Packforever1976
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured chilled into my british pint.
2006 vintage picked up from Four Firkins.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black. There is a slight reddish hue when held up to the light. About a one finger light tan head that receades quickly, leaving a slight film over the brew. Nice lacing.

S: Very interesting smells. Some tobacco, vanilla, a hint of dark fruit, a little cinnamon. Molasses too. Very nice, can't wait to taste it.

T: Wow. I've tasted nothing like this, ever. Sweet tobacco, vanilla, molasses=delicious! Dark fruit and cinnamon as well. This is fantastic!

M: Fairly light mouthfeel, proper carbonation. Dry finish. Nice.

D: Very drinkable. I'm wondering how this qualifies as a Baltic, as it comes in at 5.5%? Either way, it is a very tasty porter. A nice reccomendation from the clerk at Four Firkins. I'll be searching this out again for sure!

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Photo of barrelman
4.2/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage.

Brown color with ample head and lacing. Aroma is mostly sweet, but not overpowering. Taste is smooth with roast at the end. After taste is clean and short. This beer tastes very clean withnot too many distractions. I really enjoy that. Not many off flavors or esters present.

Mouthfeel is great. Perfect. The drinkability of this beer is fantastic. I could see the third being just as good as the first.

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Photo of rkinsella
4.31/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Vintage on this bottle was 2006

Appearance - Color was pitch black with an off white pillowy head. Above average lacing down the glass.

Smell - Molasses notes and dried fruit. Perhaps a touch of oak.

Taste - An incredible balance after 3 years in the bottle. Sweetness evened out with a bit of tart fruit, touch of smoke, and ending with very muted hops. Aftertaste is long and complex.

Mouthfeel - Lower carbonation, smooth and creamy.

Drinkability - Highly drinkable because of the great balance.

I've never tasted anything like this before. A porter that is really one of a kind. It seemed almost like a fine scotch.

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Photo of mydeadguy
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage.

Pours black with ruby hints, fluffy tan head dissipates quickly. Scent is roasted malts, sweet fruits, and coffee, sort of a raisin bread odor, light sweet alcohol. Taste is sweet with roasted malts finishes with balanced hop flavours, slightly bitter.
Mouth is lightly carbonated, but full, round and chewy. Fades fast on the palate, makes me want another. Drinkability is high, could I have another (or 3) hell yeah. This is one fine brew, really a great porter, I love this stuff.

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Photo of BeerHonky
3.7/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is a pretty darn good stout, not amazing, but darn good. Personally, I like fuller, stronger flavored stouts and I found this one to be a little on the weak side of flavor. Chocolate and coffee flavors were definitely present, but just didn't present themselves as well as I would have liked. Presentation is great with a color and bottle that are both equally stout-like. The aroma wasn't strong enough to get through my slightly stuffy nose. This beer finishes extremely easy and leaves a relatively a clean palate. And like some have said, its very easy to drink.

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Photo of krunchie
4.35/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours an opaque black liquid with a nice tan, very thick and creamy head. Looks delicious! The head was almost entirely gone after 2 minutes...too bad, it looked great. Left a bit of nice lacing though.

S: Black malts and barley, I mean really you can really smell the raw grain! I like it, it smells fresh. Raisins and dark rye bread, some sweet milk chocolate and figs. Dried fruit and resin, no hop aroma. Estery and roasty.

T: Mmm, very roasty and toasty. Black malts, can really get the raw malt thing again. Malty and balanced, once again no hops (I don't want any hop flavor in this style of beer ethier, so that's a pro) and perfect bitterness. Less fruitiness in the flavor, much more raw roasted barley flavor and coffee. Get some more resin and a slight smoked wood flavor, quite grainy and hard caramelized like bread crust. Molasses and an "aged" character I like very much. Not very fruity in the flavor, very clean and refreshing which I think really makes this beer outstanding! A true winner

M/D: Easy to drink, medium body with perfect CO2 for the style. Smooth on the palate and crisp on the tongue, creamy but not too thick. Goes down easily!

I was surprised, this is a mighty fine beer! Great flavor and a clean roastiness, but still refreshing and leaving you wanting more. I should definitely go buy some more...

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Photo of unHipHopHead
4.54/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Should mention that the bottle I purchased was vintage 2004 and discounted from $7.99 to $5.99... there may have been some heavy moving involved.

a: a full head that resolved into a thin lace with medium bubbles attracted to one side. also, jet black color with caramelized bead and bubbles.

s: lots of molasses and a hint of chocolate. Like an aged scotch, I detect hints of woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness.

t: heavy roasted flavors with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavors of espresso, molasses and dark chocolate.

m: smooth, thick and syrupy with a hint of carbonation.

d: an extremely solid porter that one could enjoy as a final wish.

As a Porter lover this was an enjoyable experience. All in all, this is one of the best Porters I have tried. I generally enjoy the Deschutes Black Butte (especially cask!) as well as the Alaskan Smoked. I wasn't expecting much from a Swedish brew but wow, this is a winner.

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Photo of JoeyHotrod
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 bottle..... The beer poured to a dark brown almost black color with not much in the way of a head. There were hints of a good strong coffee as well as the chocolate you would expect in a nice porter. There was not much in the way of carbonation which is a good thing from my perspective.

Not my favorite porter and perhaps just a shade or two light, but overall a very nice beer to enjoy. Not easy to find from what I understand, but clearly worth the effort.

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Photo of Rocko
4.77/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2002:

Wow this is a real baby. :) Pours pitch black with a small brown head that fades away after a few seconds. It smells very malty with hints of coffee and dark chocolate, I think it has a really pleasant smell.

The taste is very complex, nice and pleasantly bitter, there is also a bit of coffee and burnt sugar in the background. The aftertaste is very long, but not as bitter as one would think. Thumbs up from me.

I think I will buy a few and let them mature!

Quote from the back label: "Carnegie Porter was created in 1836 and the taste is the same today" Anyone happen to have a 1836 vintage? ;))

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Photo of Mjoepp
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Black liquid with a quite big light browish head. Medium and small bubbles, leaves some lacing on the glass.

S: Roasted (sweet) malt, coffee, lil' bit of choclate.

T: Roasted, coffee, choclate. Watery when swallowed, leaves a bitter roasted taste as aftertaste.

O: Quite impressed, deserves to have survied all these years.

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Photo of ghurux86
4.03/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

this bottle says 1998. pours a dark dark brown with no head and no lacing. almost looks like flat coke. the smell is great though malt and some chocolate. taste is the same as the smell with the malt lingering in the aftertaste. mouthfeel is somewhat thick and feels really smooth almost like milk or something. i'd probably drink some more if i had it, but if i had something else better, i'd take that. a pretty good brew overall.

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Photo of ProfessorHops
4.59/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- black with a beige head. Looks like Guinness

Smell- bitter, and light. Many different avenues are present in the scent. But the most surprising is that in a way, some of the aroma is similar to an American pilsner giant. (Miller, Bud, or Coors) Weird?

Taste- complex and truly delicious. It has a burnt wood start that thins fast. Water malt then starts over and as well mellows out fast.

Mouthfeel- starts thick, then thins out. Sharp feel, but I like that.

Drinkability- medium ease. But to be honest when the beer is drank fast, details and outlines of the pallet or taste were emphasized, which is normal. But also a sweetness came to be present. A truly good brew that takes you on a small voyage. Exploring taste buds you never knew you had.


An interesting great tasting brew. Complex and intricate. I liked mine extremely cold.

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Photo of deBeers
4.53/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Argang 1997 8.82 fl. oz.

Smells rich like a baltic porter. Smells of sweet molasses out of the bottle in a subdued way. Also notes of chocolate, fig, brown sugar?, old leather...

Minimal carbonation with a small caramel head that disapates into swirls after one sip. Deep mahogany in color, opaque, and inviting in stature for a nine year old brew.

Taste is so smooth, almost creamy, and perfectly balanced. This is not your average Baltic porter. It has a lower abv and is very mature, aged to perfection, and begging to be sipped around a small fire with best friends/loved ones.

When setting a concentric ring of lace forms around the edge of the glass. I think the peak of this beer may have been a few years earlier but this is such high quality and so well kept that I find it a pleasure to have the opportunity to consume.

Definately let this warm up in your mouth for a bit and you'll be in for a treat. That's when the true complexity starts showing imho. Hints of chocolate and molasses come out when I swish the beer around in my mouth under pressure. Yum.

Worth seeking out for a special treat.

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Photo of Ethanol4one
4.9/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Very dark, with an average head, this beer sneaks up on you like base jumping Airborne Ranger delivering flowers that you forgot for your best girl as you walk up to her doorstep, with its mildly sweet, malty and perfectly balanced slight hopped aroma, and a just short of moderately thick mouth feel, like that of a stout. In fact, I'd bet a case that most people would identify it as a stout, if they were not told it's labeled a porter.

My first reaction right down to the last drop was that "this beer is perfect", so there's that. Although, the second one tasted more sweet to me, after pairings with some of the excellent olives Beer Table serves.

I had it at Beer Table, on tap in Brooklyn, where they really care about teh suds.

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Photo of Lupin
4.45/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

8.8oz bottle. Didn't realize it when I bought it, but it's the 1997 vintage. I get really lucky/unlucky finding ancient beers in strange places. Don't even remember buying this one. Let's go!

Pours black. No head, just a few tiny bubbles.. Ever-so-slightly roasted malt, fig (mmm!), bland coffee and raisinettes. I'm gonna let this one warm after the first few sips.

The earthy fruits in the nose are also in charge of the palate. A nice balanced sweetness without sourness or acidity. Tastes like m&ms and the stuffing of fig newtons and goes down oh so easy. There are weaknesses up front and in the finish, but they don't detract from what seems to be an interesting brew that has survived a decade intact, sans carbonation.

With warming, the beer smells 'dirtier' and dirtier. It's hard to describe the aroma, but it's nothing if not unique. The same is true of the taste. No bitterness, yet not too sweet. It took a while to figure it out, but it reminds me reminds me of riesen candies, just not as sweet.

Not really sure what to say about this one other than thumbs way up. A mysterious and subtle brew that is among the most interesting I've ever tried. I will be looking at my local stores for additional bottles of the 1997 vintage, and I will buy everything they have in stock.

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Photo of echdk3
4.7/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 1pt, 9oz bottle into a mug, 2004 vintage

A_Gorgeous dark black color with caramel color one centimeter head with bubbles on top surface. Really a beautiful beer, and leaves a nice slight lace

S_Big time vinegar, molasses. Burnt toast and coffee, a very rich and complex aroma complete with a slight bit of very dark bittersweet chocolate bar

T_Saliva kicks in on the pallet pretty quickly once this brew hits. Primary flavor is dark Italian burnt coffee also with some of that same white vinegar from the aroma

M_Very chewy and lightly carbonated, feels like chewy young goude cheese, absolutely gorgeous

D_Really nice dark roast italian coffee aftertaste is present but absolutely unintrusive. The alcohol is hidden very well. I really could drink many of these, very very nice

I am rating this beer very higly. It is easily one of the best porters I've ever had - in all five categories. Please, please pick this beer up and enjoy all of its subtleties slowly and fully

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
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