Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden | website

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

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4.12
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13.83%
 
 
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Photo of matjack85
4.88/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I never had a Sweedish beer before so I almost balked at picking this one up when I saw the $5.19 price tag for a single 16.9 oz bottle, plus the beer was dated 2001 and this was already Sept. of 2006, so I didn't know how well it had held up and wondered why no one was buying it.

It poured a dark brown color and left just a 1 finger creamy tan head that soon disappeared to just a tan ring on top producing just a minimal of lacing. Nothing exceptional about the pour or appearance.

The smell however was a different story. This beer had an incredibly good aroma. It was an intoxicating mix of roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate. It smelled absolutely delicious.

The taste was more of the same. It had a creamy mouthfeel due in part to the low carbonation and tasted like creamy coffee layered with chocolate and roasted malts. There was no bitterness to it at all. Many beers with coffee tastes have a bitter coffee flavor to them and some chocolate flavors are more like bittersweet dark chocolate than sweet chocoalte, but this beer is all mild roasted coffee and sweet milk chocolate, yet it is a pleasant subtle sweetness rather than sugary sweet and I absolutely loved it. Like drinking a cold chocolate flavored coffee.
There was a trace of alcohol in the aftertaste, but it wasn't anyhting that detracted from the overall experience.

At just 5.5% abv I could drink these all night, and when a beer is this good, you don't mind spending $5.19 a bottle.

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Photo of FLAbeergutinMASS
3.92/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A great Porter from Europe. This beer best characteristic is its smell. Huge wafting musty boldness from this one. Big chocolate maltiness, a little stale, but not a bad stale. Finishes dry on the tongue, powdery chocolate, semi-sweet and bitter.

Europeon Porters, IMO are much more complex then theri American counter-parts. Not as wild, or original, but but more solid. A good beer that comes in a bottle that is too small.

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Photo of SilentSabre
3.5/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I must say, I'm a little let down by this one. I had such high expectations for it, and I just don't think it delivered. It was quite tasy and smelled okay; it just wasn't the big, black, chocolate pudding beer I thought it was going to be. It poured a dark reddish brown colour through which light could pass. It had a sandy coloured foamy head that stayed around for ages and left thick lacing clinging to the sides of the glass. This was quite nice, but I would have liked it better were it darker still. The smell was roasted malts with a bit of a bitter coffee bean under tone, and a really faint chocolate aroma hidden deep down. I expected so much more in the smell. I expected the roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate, but at much higher levels. There was also a bit of a soured smell present here, as well, such as something you might expect to find with a lambic. Not as strong of course, but there, faintly, nevertheless. The taste was sweet roasted malts and a touch of caramel. Not the unmanageable semi-sweet chocolate and punch in the face coffee bean bitterness I was so hoping for. Mouthfeel was a bit thin, both for what I was expecting, and the style as a whole, I thought. Overall, this was a good porter. Not a fantastic porter, simply a good one. I was simply expecting so much more from this one, only to be dissappointed a bit. 3.5's across the board.

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Photo of nlmartin
4.74/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer was purchased at Jungle Jims. The beer was served in a imperial pint glass. The beer was the 2004 vintage. The bottle says best by 2014. I just dont know if this is a realistic best by date.

Appearance: The beer pours a black coloration with ruby opaqueness to light. The beer had a thick creamed coffee colored head. The head resolved itself into a thin ring. Patches of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: This beer is loaded with dark roasted and toasted malts. The beer produces wiffs of smokeyness. The beer is majorly loaded with dark fruityness perhaps figs, prunes and black currants. The beer has a bit of choco and coffee smells playing in the smell. I cant really pinpoint anything that is hoppy in origin but I dont care. This is a dam fine smelling beer.

Taste: The beer delivers on the smell big time. This is a malty beer treat. The beer never hits a cloying sweetness. I guess this is due to the roasted and smokey flavors.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is a bit lighter than full bodied. The beer is lightly carbonated. The beer has a bit of buttery creamyness to the mouth. The beer never becomes cloyingly sweet. I would have liked this beer to be a bit thicker on the mouthfeel. The beer is a very drinkable malt bomb. I wish the cost of this was a bit cheaper because it would be a regular in my beer line up.

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Photo of maddamish
4.68/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best beer that i had on the honeymoon.

Ap: thick and creamy head that laces nicely. Dark opal in color.

Taste: Coffee and chocolate notes. Nice hop background with a nice bite to it. I found this beer very enjoyable and complex. You have to sit and contemplate a porter like this.

Mouth: Perfect. Thick and creamy in the mouth.

Smell: Caramel, malt with a slight alcohol presence.

Notes: I love porters and this one is at the top of my list. It doesn't get much better than this.

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Photo of mynie
3.93/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Quite the pour. Ruby hues, not opaque, but pretty close, and with one hell of a brown, rocky, retentive head. The kind of huge bubbles that make you slow down pouring about half the way through because you're not expecting them, and you know they're gonna stick around a while.

Smells like very intense roasted malt. Very bitter with nodes of coffee grounds. Maybe a little old--scents of fruit come through, as well. Nice, though.

Big bitter malt, big black coffee. Burst of alcohol (strange from a 5.5%!) in the middle, more bitter malts and the end, big fruit sweetness lingering. Tastes a tiny bit stale, but the back sez, I'm not kidding, "Best Before May 2014." That kind of hubris can cost you, sonny.

Good beer. Probably even better fresh. If only they included a realistic dating system...

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Photo of fretlessman71
4.51/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pertinent Preliminary Comments: This is a bottle from 2001. Heard glowing comments about this from at least 2 people; had a bottle months ago and wasn’t too impressed. But I’m willing to give it a 2nd chance; hey, I’m Swedish, and people gave ME a 2nd chance, so why not?

APPEARANCE: Dr. Pepper brown with cherry highlights. Tan head, not too dense, not too big. Only a little bit of lacing.

AROMA: Fig, chocolate, espresso, black currant, bubblegum, banana even. Not much in the way of hops.

FLAVOR: Hearty roasted malt character; not quite burnt, but almost. Not too sweet, but just enough; smooth like a good Schwarz might be as well. Chocolate and coffee are strongest. Anise, charcoal, and pepper aren’t so strong but still detectable. A subtle metallic sourness as well – might be the hops poking through a bit. Much better than the first bottle I had – must have been mishandled.

MOUTHFEEL: Good weight to it; somewhat slick. Carbonation just right.

DRINKABILITY: VERY good. Hard to get bored of these, and at a whole 5.5% ABV (some Baltic!) you’ll have plenty of room for one more.

OVERALL COMMENTS: A big improvement over the first time. This is a really well balanced beer, with just enough to keep me interested over the long haul. Nice to see a brew with a lower ABV for lightweights like me, too. Now, if these only came in 6ers at a decent price...

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Photo of jmz62565
3.96/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a 2004 vintage. This beer pours a ink black with a large foamy head. The head of this beer leaves very nice lacing. The smell has a real wood smoke aroma that dominates ,but also has sweet roasted malt . The taste is crisp with a smokey flavor along with malt sweetness and coffee. The m/f is lighter than expected with the flavors coming together very nicely. A very good beer that should be had by all. Cheers.

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Photo of kwakhead
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 vintage 8.82oz bottle 5.5% very dark very little head ,minimal carbonation.Tried this last night at a vintage beer tasting and found it to be one of my favorites.i found it to be very drinkable,sweet but not to sweet .chocolate coffee hints perhaps?maybe prunes or grapes?I would definatelytry this again if I had the opportunatey.

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Photo of jwc215
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

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Photo of ProfessorHops
4.59/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- black with a beige head. Looks like Guinness

Smell- bitter, and light. Many different avenues are present in the scent. But the most surprising is that in a way, some of the aroma is similar to an American pilsner giant. (Miller, Bud, or Coors) Weird?

Taste- complex and truly delicious. It has a burnt wood start that thins fast. Water malt then starts over and as well mellows out fast.

Mouthfeel- starts thick, then thins out. Sharp feel, but I like that.

Drinkability- medium ease. But to be honest when the beer is drank fast, details and outlines of the pallet or taste were emphasized, which is normal. But also a sweetness came to be present. A truly good brew that takes you on a small voyage. Exploring taste buds you never knew you had.


An interesting great tasting brew. Complex and intricate. I liked mine extremely cold.

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Photo of scruffwhor
3.91/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from a one pint .9 fluid oz bottle into a arlsberg Imperial Pint glass.

Appearance- The perfect pour into my Carlsberg imperial pint glass. A nice tan, two and a half finger head with good retention and film formage. The colro was a perfect mix of brown and black.

Smell- A pretty subdued baltic porter. Hints of walnuts, chocolate, and deep roasted malts.

Taste- Even though this is the weakest abv baltic porter I've tried, it was still very good. Starts out as a sweet nutty flavor, but leads into a chocolate chip muffin flavor. This finish is a light, but dark hop flavor profile with soem hnts at fresh ground coffee.

Mouthfeel- Pretty light for such a dark beer. This would a new session beer if it was more readily available at some Illinois bars.

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Photo of poluti
3.61/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I had the 2004 version.
It pours an extremely dark red until it settles into an inky black with red edges when held to the light. It has a tan head closer to white than brown. The consistency of the head was fantastic. It smelled malty sweet with not too many hop characteristics that I could gather. Overall, the aroma was pleasant but not outstanding. This beer is balanced towards the sweet side in terms of flavor. Obviously the hops are not that evident but I wished there was something else there to counteract the very sweet malty tones it was giving me. This was a very creamy beer and it sat very well on the side of my tongue as I swished it around. It left a fairly clean taste that I was very pleased with. I probably will not pick this beer up again. However, I know a couple people that would love this stuff so I have to skew drinkablity up.

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Photo of jakester
3.92/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I bought this as a single at Union Jack's on the Manatawny. I drank it in a goblet. This is the 2004 version. It comes in a 16.9 oz. bottle.

Pours an absolutely pitch black with active carbonation visible on the sides of the glass. A nice, two fingered head of beige colored foam forms on top, drops to a good coating and a ring, with very nice lacing.

Aroma is mostly chocolate, with a slight coffee background.
There is also some kind of chalky, metallic smell in there. I think I can detect licorice as well. The metallic aroma becomes a little too much as it warms.

First flavor is sweet chocolate, with a hint of coffee. This tastes much better than it smells. I actually started holding my breath as I sipped. Pretty darn clean for a two year old, small alcohol beer. Licorice is in there, I think, and fruit flavors like very dark rum soaked cherries. Aftertaste is dark, sweet, and mellow.

Mouthfeel is fairly smooth and creamy, with a high level of residual sweetness. Pretty full bodied. Carbonation is low to medium. Finish is smooth and luscious.

If it wasn't for the smell, this would be outstanding. I honestly held my breath for every sip, trying not to ruin the taste. The flavor is really good. And actually, after 15 minutes or so, the smell went away. One I'd have again. I'd just open it and let it breathe for a while.

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Photo of bruachan
4.48/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

served in a nice big (16.9 oz) bottle at the winking lizard. "argang 2004" on the label

pitch black in appearance with some garnet highlights at the base. a great big head slowly makes its descent, but not without first depositing some nice frosting on the way down

dark smoky flavor with a hint of licorice. the rich smoothiness of roast lasts and lasts. mild bitterness

this beer is absolutely delicious and at 5.5% it's incredibly drinkable

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Photo of geexploitation
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This is a relatively rare porter with a vintage statement. This applies to the 2004 vintage. It's a treat. It pours deep brown/coffeelike, with a tan head that thins out quickly but retains a small amount of bubbles. The smell has some chocolate bitterness with some underlying raisiny notes. An appealing nose but nothing too sumptuous. More substantial is the taste of this beer -- chocolate bitterness predominates, especially on the back of the tongue. The mouthfeel is silky and smooth, but the drinkability of this beer suffers a bit from its richness. It's probably too much to put away many pints at a time.

One note on the vintage thing: I just had the 1997 vintage a few weeks ago. It had aged wonderfully -- in spite of the absence of bottle conditioning and a relatively low alcohol content, this beer at 7+ years old was huge, with a much more complex flavor than the 2004 vintage. Over time, some great date flavors came out in the beer, as well as some nicely sweet, cake-like flavors. Anyway, a few people on here have noted seeing some 1997s around as remainders and such. If you see the 1997, BUY IT. As long as it's been cared for between then and now, you're in for some serious goodness.

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Photo of Jredner
3.89/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown with a thin head. Smells of chocolate and mildly of molasses. Lightly roasted with sweet malt and more molasses and chocolate. Very mild, but also very compelling. You just want another sip. It almost has a Baltic Porter taste profile, but none of the BP alcohol.

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Photo of ElGordo
3.43/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2004 Vintage, purchased at A Southern Season. Pours a dark brown with amber highlights, topped by a creamy tan head that has some staying power. Aroma of toasted malt with a slight metallic tinge. The malt comes through rather roasty on the palate, with a bit of a nutty character peeking through. Very light notes of milk chocolate and oats. Body is kind of thin for a porter. Goes down easy, though, I will say that. Not a particularly remarkable beer.

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Photo of skynxnex
4.65/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage. Says Best Before May 2014. So sampled a few years before then.

I poured the 25 oz bottle into an imperial pint glass. Brings up a decent tan head. The color is dark brown with ruby highlights--nearly black but not quite. Leaves little lacing.

The smell, wow. It's sweet with some fruit and maybe a touch of alcohol. The roasted malt rises up and plays in your nose.

It tastes just really balanced. Sweet creamy mouthfeel mixed with the bitterness of the coffee and roasted malt. A nice hop flavor lingers and there's good hint of the hop bitterness peaking through as well. The carbonation is mild and feels just right. I drank the 25 oz never feeling like it was at all too much. Goes really well with a nice dark chocolate as well. I was expecting this to be a good beer, but it goes beyond that. It doesn't amazing strong flavors but it just works.

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Photo of MaltyGoodness
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

25oz bottle. Vintage 2004.

Pours a rich black with some ruby highlights. A tan head that thins, but doesn't completely fade. Nice lacing on the glass.

Aroma of roasted grains with a sweet malty backdrop. A rather mild aroma.

A nice light roated flavor upfront with a sweet malty accompaniment. Follows with a slight hop bite and finishes roasty and clean.

Medium body and quite smooth.

Nice and easy to drink baltic porter. Has aged nicely. Very enjoyable.

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Photo of beveragecaptain
4.02/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Absurdly small 8.3 ounce bottle. Carnegie porter pours out a black topped with an oily film. Big malty aroma that can be smelled from several feet away. Lots of cookie dough in the aroma, with some cocoa. Roasted malt flavor, followed by sweet dough, like that of a dopplebock. This beer actually makes me think of a stout crossed with a dopplebock. Very little hop flavor. Mouthfeel is a tad watery. This beer left me craving another, but then again it was only an 8.3 ounce bottle.

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Photo of barrelman
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage.

Brown color with ample head and lacing. Aroma is mostly sweet, but not overpowering. Taste is smooth with roast at the end. After taste is clean and short. This beer tastes very clean withnot too many distractions. I really enjoy that. Not many off flavors or esters present.

Mouthfeel is great. Perfect. The drinkability of this beer is fantastic. I could see the third being just as good as the first.

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Photo of neonbrown82
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2001, and it's still kicking. This is a very good porter, and it's a shame that it has been discontinued. Still plenty of stock to burn through at work, however.

Pours very thin with a jet black color and a thin white head that recedes to a ring around the glass. Leaves a beautiful lacing that ever so slowly washes down the sides of the glass until ultimately rejoining the beer. Carbonation is still active after several years of dormancy.

The smell is quite sweet. Has a very mild roast to it. A bit of caramel. Not a whole lot to add. Smells quite typical of an English porter even though it's a baltic porter from Sweden.

The taste is great. One of my favorite porters. Very mild with a nice chocolate and caramel backing along with a very slight roast. Very refreshing. Some interesting yeasty esters follow the initial taste.

The mouthfeel is a bit on the thin and watery side, which does not detract from the enjoyability of beverage but merely serves to make it more easily drinkable. It's a sure winner in that department. I am somewhat curious as to how this beer got the classification of a baltic porter (other than the geography, obviously) since this seems to be more of a mild English porter more than anything. I am not a stickler for style guidelines however, as long as your stout doesn't taste like a pale, for instance. This is definitely a good beer whatever you call it.

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Photo of Zorro
4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Retired? This bottle "Årgång 2004" and was delivered to the store just this week.

Pours a clear extremely dark brown beer with a nice brown head.

Smell is quite rich. Caramelized sugar and rye are the first things you smell. Fruit smell is mostly raisins, plums and figs. The last thing I can smell is a faint whiff of smoke.

Taste is very sweet and malty with a fairly strong hit of smoke and bitterness in the finish. A feisty porter that wants to argue with your tongue. "I am sweet and mild" and then it totally turns the tables "No I am smoky dark, and bitter" a Jekyll and Hyde flavor. Fairly fruity in the middle of the extremes in taste. Nice long lasting bitterness in the taste. Only one minor defect, there is a slight metallic flavor from the dark roasted malts used, just a hint but it is there.

Mouthfeel is thick.

A tasty drinkable beer here, too bad it is $5 a bottle. Full flavored Baltic porter that I can recommend.

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Photo of battlekow
2.37/5  rDev -42.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Carnegie Stark Porter pours a flat garnet-tinged dark brown. Nose is way, way too "baltic" for me, by which I mean prunes are the only thing I detect, which makes the Stark Porter smell like some kind of evil Jamba Juice concoction. Taste has some echoes of the prunes, but not nearly as intense. Light toasted finish. Maybe it's just relative to the nose, but really doesn't taste like much, maybe like diluted grape or prune juice. Mouthfeel features absolutely no carbonation whatsoever, adding to the juice illusion, but is relatively thick. Overall, the Carnegie Stark Porter is a little gross in some areas and not really there in the rest.

I think "Årgång 1997" means that this is from 1997--that can't have helped.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
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