Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BA SCORE
83.5%
Liked This Beer
4.1 w/ 583 ratings
Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#2,220
Reviews:
354
Ratings:
583
Liked:
487
Avg:
4.1/5
pDev:
10.73%
Alströms:
4.77
 
 
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Photo of daliandragon
4.15/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Vintage 2001. Pours almost black with cola colored highlight slits at the edges and botttom. The head iis brown and frothy but disappears almost instantly without a trace. Nose is sweet and malty with coffee, roasted, and buttery tones.

Roasted malt flavor lasts throughout with touches of coffee and chocolate but mostly just dry and tasty. Mouthfeel is relaxed and very smooth, almost silky. Very pleasing on a cold night and very old fashioned tasting as the label brags. I could very easily see making this a winter regular as it goes down very easy and doesn't kick at eight or nine percent like a lot of the newfangled BPs. Good stuff.

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Photo of brewcrew76
4.25/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1997 vintage

A - Pours a solid black with no head and very little carbonation. It reminds me of homebrew before it is bottled and carbonated.

S - Dark fruits, figs and prunes with some chocolate. Aroma is subtle and would be much better if it was more prominent.

T - Dark fruits and chocolate. There is a slight chocolate milk flavor I am detecting.

M - The mouthfeel is light to medium and very nice for having such little carbonation.

D - A great easy drinking beer. I will have to find another one of these.

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Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.8/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Årgång 1997.
Sampled at 9 Years Old.

Presentation: It’s been a long time since I tried this dark sexy Swedish number, so when I saw a petit 1997 bottle of this one, I fancied taking it for a ride again. This shrunken Scandinavian has a rather striking look despite its rather demure 8.82 fluid ounce sample size.

Appearance: This aged sample has a very, very, very dark black body. Utterly impervious it looks like a glass of tar once the fading tan head completely disappears. The flat look does little to offer any excitement and the absence of any conditioning is derisory. Still, this does have an appeal, like a stripped bare knuckle fighter you get to see this one devoid of any fancy-schmancy pomp and circumstance.

Nose: Fading in strength from fresher samples if my ailing memory serves me well. Dark chocolate, roasted coffee, sweet molasses and smoked charcoal. A soft background has a rich texture but is low to the punch.

Taste: Smoky beginnings, molasses and a light chocolate darkness with a bitter trait. This has mellowed out from earlier offerings with a younger vintage but a rewarding brew nonetheless. Roasted feel remains and a light hint of Smoky Bacon punctuates the lingering finish.

Mouthfeel: Thinning body has a creamy feel despite its low conditioning. The body has a solid depth but tends to wax and wane and it can feel a little depleted at times, but never anything less than above average.

Drinkability: Only had 8.82 fluid ounces – but it was an enjoyable sipper.

Overall: First brewed in 1836, but it seems that at nearly ten years old this one tends to loose all conditioning and starts to thin out, though the complexity remains and the depth of taste still excites. Remains a high quality sipping Baltic Porter but I prefer this one a little younger.

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Photo of lagomswedish
3.74/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 500ml bottle dated 2006 - so fresh as they come, and opened just as the snow came drifting down on northern Sweden. The perfect night for a porter me thinks.

Appearance: The best thing about this beer. Jet black with a thick, creamy tan head with some spotting. If this was a picture I'd frame it.

Smell: Slightly vague nose, with soft fuit sweetness, vanilla and a whiff of chocolate

Taste: Mild choc/coffee as you'd expect. A little rust, caramel and raisins, but TBH not a lot of anything. Almost non-existant hops.

Mouthfeel: The lack of hops means this porter gives up in the mouth a little too early for my liking. Initial sweetness (refined white sugar sweetness that's quite dominant and a little sickly).

Drinkability: A little to osweet and one-dimensional for me. Lacking any memorable burnt/brown sugar and bitter/coffee characteristics that I normally associate with a great porter, and the candy sugar kick throws the taste out of balance. Having said that it was a good beer to drink while watching the snow come down.

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Photo of russpowell
4.76/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2006 version

Pours black with purple highlights when held to the light & a fluffed up 2 fingers deep sand colored head. Great lacing & head retention

S: Choclate & licorice

T: Huge choclate & burnt grain up front, then licorice & molasses. A little iron & alcohol bite surfaces as it warms . Finishes with a slight fruittyness, licorice & molasses

MF: Chewy with low carbonation & superb balance. Makes me think of a malted milk

Drinks pretty easy, would a nice on to session on if it weren't so expensive. One kickass batlic porter

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Photo of deBeers
4.53/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Argang 1997 8.82 fl. oz.

Smells rich like a baltic porter. Smells of sweet molasses out of the bottle in a subdued way. Also notes of chocolate, fig, brown sugar?, old leather...

Minimal carbonation with a small caramel head that disapates into swirls after one sip. Deep mahogany in color, opaque, and inviting in stature for a nine year old brew.

Taste is so smooth, almost creamy, and perfectly balanced. This is not your average Baltic porter. It has a lower abv and is very mature, aged to perfection, and begging to be sipped around a small fire with best friends/loved ones.

When setting a concentric ring of lace forms around the edge of the glass. I think the peak of this beer may have been a few years earlier but this is such high quality and so well kept that I find it a pleasure to have the opportunity to consume.

Definately let this warm up in your mouth for a bit and you'll be in for a treat. That's when the true complexity starts showing imho. Hints of chocolate and molasses come out when I swish the beer around in my mouth under pressure. Yum.

Worth seeking out for a special treat.

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Photo of lordofthewiens
4.4/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Thank you to Chris at Ebenezer's Pub for getting me to try this. I probably never would have had this without his recommendation. It was a nice dark black with a thick coffee-colored head. A coffee, chocolate aroma. The taste only enhanced what I smelled, and this had to have been the smoothest porter I've ever tried. Indescribable, all those great dark tastes running around in my mouth. You gotta try this beer!

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Photo of yelterdow
4.56/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9 oz. bottle, served at between cellar and fridge temperature in a Duvel tulip. Bottled in 2000, drink by date reads November 2010.

Appearance- Rich, chocolate brown goodness fills my glass supporting a finger-thick light tan head... Spotty lacing dots the surface as the head slowly breaks apart.

Aroma- Smells like a cross between a vintage old ale and a porter... the leather, mildew, and century-old hardbound book elements blend together in glorious fashion with Tootsie Roll chocolate, dark fudge, and dark fruit. No coffee in the aroma, surprisingly... but that's fine with me. Enough complexities here to go on for days.

Taste- Distinguished... Established... Accomplished... these three words come to mind after spending some time with this beer in my mouth. Mature and stately, it's grown up... a beverage with time and sophistication under its belt. The flavors, difficult to decipher individually because of the superb integration, are so cohesive that I marvel at its balance. Figs and plums dance in a molasses-soaked liquor of divinity.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Viscous but relatively light in the mouth, the smooth rise and fall is wonderfully complementary to the beer's texture. At 5.5%, it has subtleties and complexities that don't usually reveal themselves in a beer of this strength... and the European hop profile really seals the envelope in the superb finish. Fabulous beer, a gem worth seeking out.

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Photo of matjack85
4.88/5  rDev +19%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I never had a Sweedish beer before so I almost balked at picking this one up when I saw the $5.19 price tag for a single 16.9 oz bottle, plus the beer was dated 2001 and this was already Sept. of 2006, so I didn't know how well it had held up and wondered why no one was buying it.

It poured a dark brown color and left just a 1 finger creamy tan head that soon disappeared to just a tan ring on top producing just a minimal of lacing. Nothing exceptional about the pour or appearance.

The smell however was a different story. This beer had an incredibly good aroma. It was an intoxicating mix of roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate. It smelled absolutely delicious.

The taste was more of the same. It had a creamy mouthfeel due in part to the low carbonation and tasted like creamy coffee layered with chocolate and roasted malts. There was no bitterness to it at all. Many beers with coffee tastes have a bitter coffee flavor to them and some chocolate flavors are more like bittersweet dark chocolate than sweet chocoalte, but this beer is all mild roasted coffee and sweet milk chocolate, yet it is a pleasant subtle sweetness rather than sugary sweet and I absolutely loved it. Like drinking a cold chocolate flavored coffee.
There was a trace of alcohol in the aftertaste, but it wasn't anyhting that detracted from the overall experience.

At just 5.5% abv I could drink these all night, and when a beer is this good, you don't mind spending $5.19 a bottle.

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Photo of FLAbeergutinMASS
3.92/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A great Porter from Europe. This beer best characteristic is its smell. Huge wafting musty boldness from this one. Big chocolate maltiness, a little stale, but not a bad stale. Finishes dry on the tongue, powdery chocolate, semi-sweet and bitter.

Europeon Porters, IMO are much more complex then theri American counter-parts. Not as wild, or original, but but more solid. A good beer that comes in a bottle that is too small.

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Photo of SilentSabre
3.5/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I must say, I'm a little let down by this one. I had such high expectations for it, and I just don't think it delivered. It was quite tasy and smelled okay; it just wasn't the big, black, chocolate pudding beer I thought it was going to be. It poured a dark reddish brown colour through which light could pass. It had a sandy coloured foamy head that stayed around for ages and left thick lacing clinging to the sides of the glass. This was quite nice, but I would have liked it better were it darker still. The smell was roasted malts with a bit of a bitter coffee bean under tone, and a really faint chocolate aroma hidden deep down. I expected so much more in the smell. I expected the roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate, but at much higher levels. There was also a bit of a soured smell present here, as well, such as something you might expect to find with a lambic. Not as strong of course, but there, faintly, nevertheless. The taste was sweet roasted malts and a touch of caramel. Not the unmanageable semi-sweet chocolate and punch in the face coffee bean bitterness I was so hoping for. Mouthfeel was a bit thin, both for what I was expecting, and the style as a whole, I thought. Overall, this was a good porter. Not a fantastic porter, simply a good one. I was simply expecting so much more from this one, only to be dissappointed a bit. 3.5's across the board.

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Photo of nlmartin
4.74/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer was purchased at Jungle Jims. The beer was served in a imperial pint glass. The beer was the 2004 vintage. The bottle says best by 2014. I just dont know if this is a realistic best by date.

Appearance: The beer pours a black coloration with ruby opaqueness to light. The beer had a thick creamed coffee colored head. The head resolved itself into a thin ring. Patches of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: This beer is loaded with dark roasted and toasted malts. The beer produces wiffs of smokeyness. The beer is majorly loaded with dark fruityness perhaps figs, prunes and black currants. The beer has a bit of choco and coffee smells playing in the smell. I cant really pinpoint anything that is hoppy in origin but I dont care. This is a dam fine smelling beer.

Taste: The beer delivers on the smell big time. This is a malty beer treat. The beer never hits a cloying sweetness. I guess this is due to the roasted and smokey flavors.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is a bit lighter than full bodied. The beer is lightly carbonated. The beer has a bit of buttery creamyness to the mouth. The beer never becomes cloyingly sweet. I would have liked this beer to be a bit thicker on the mouthfeel. The beer is a very drinkable malt bomb. I wish the cost of this was a bit cheaper because it would be a regular in my beer line up.

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Photo of maddamish
4.68/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best beer that i had on the honeymoon.

Ap: thick and creamy head that laces nicely. Dark opal in color.

Taste: Coffee and chocolate notes. Nice hop background with a nice bite to it. I found this beer very enjoyable and complex. You have to sit and contemplate a porter like this.

Mouth: Perfect. Thick and creamy in the mouth.

Smell: Caramel, malt with a slight alcohol presence.

Notes: I love porters and this one is at the top of my list. It doesn't get much better than this.

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Photo of mynie
3.93/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Quite the pour. Ruby hues, not opaque, but pretty close, and with one hell of a brown, rocky, retentive head. The kind of huge bubbles that make you slow down pouring about half the way through because you're not expecting them, and you know they're gonna stick around a while.

Smells like very intense roasted malt. Very bitter with nodes of coffee grounds. Maybe a little old--scents of fruit come through, as well. Nice, though.

Big bitter malt, big black coffee. Burst of alcohol (strange from a 5.5%!) in the middle, more bitter malts and the end, big fruit sweetness lingering. Tastes a tiny bit stale, but the back sez, I'm not kidding, "Best Before May 2014." That kind of hubris can cost you, sonny.

Good beer. Probably even better fresh. If only they included a realistic dating system...

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Photo of fretlessman71
4.51/5  rDev +10%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pertinent Preliminary Comments: This is a bottle from 2001. Heard glowing comments about this from at least 2 people; had a bottle months ago and wasn’t too impressed. But I’m willing to give it a 2nd chance; hey, I’m Swedish, and people gave ME a 2nd chance, so why not?

APPEARANCE: Dr. Pepper brown with cherry highlights. Tan head, not too dense, not too big. Only a little bit of lacing.

AROMA: Fig, chocolate, espresso, black currant, bubblegum, banana even. Not much in the way of hops.

FLAVOR: Hearty roasted malt character; not quite burnt, but almost. Not too sweet, but just enough; smooth like a good Schwarz might be as well. Chocolate and coffee are strongest. Anise, charcoal, and pepper aren’t so strong but still detectable. A subtle metallic sourness as well – might be the hops poking through a bit. Much better than the first bottle I had – must have been mishandled.

MOUTHFEEL: Good weight to it; somewhat slick. Carbonation just right.

DRINKABILITY: VERY good. Hard to get bored of these, and at a whole 5.5% ABV (some Baltic!) you’ll have plenty of room for one more.

OVERALL COMMENTS: A big improvement over the first time. This is a really well balanced beer, with just enough to keep me interested over the long haul. Nice to see a brew with a lower ABV for lightweights like me, too. Now, if these only came in 6ers at a decent price...

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Photo of Dewey0603
3.96/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a 2004 vintage. This beer pours a ink black with a large foamy head. The head of this beer leaves very nice lacing. The smell has a real wood smoke aroma that dominates ,but also has sweet roasted malt . The taste is crisp with a smokey flavor along with malt sweetness and coffee. The m/f is lighter than expected with the flavors coming together very nicely. A very good beer that should be had by all. Cheers.

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Photo of kwakhead
4.13/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 vintage 8.82oz bottle 5.5% very dark very little head ,minimal carbonation.Tried this last night at a vintage beer tasting and found it to be one of my favorites.i found it to be very drinkable,sweet but not to sweet .chocolate coffee hints perhaps?maybe prunes or grapes?I would definatelytry this again if I had the opportunatey.

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Photo of jwc215
4.7/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

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Photo of ProfessorHops
4.59/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- black with a beige head. Looks like Guinness

Smell- bitter, and light. Many different avenues are present in the scent. But the most surprising is that in a way, some of the aroma is similar to an American pilsner giant. (Miller, Bud, or Coors) Weird?

Taste- complex and truly delicious. It has a burnt wood start that thins fast. Water malt then starts over and as well mellows out fast.

Mouthfeel- starts thick, then thins out. Sharp feel, but I like that.

Drinkability- medium ease. But to be honest when the beer is drank fast, details and outlines of the pallet or taste were emphasized, which is normal. But also a sweetness came to be present. A truly good brew that takes you on a small voyage. Exploring taste buds you never knew you had.


An interesting great tasting brew. Complex and intricate. I liked mine extremely cold.

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Photo of scruffwhor
3.91/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from a one pint .9 fluid oz bottle into a arlsberg Imperial Pint glass.

Appearance- The perfect pour into my Carlsberg imperial pint glass. A nice tan, two and a half finger head with good retention and film formage. The colro was a perfect mix of brown and black.

Smell- A pretty subdued baltic porter. Hints of walnuts, chocolate, and deep roasted malts.

Taste- Even though this is the weakest abv baltic porter I've tried, it was still very good. Starts out as a sweet nutty flavor, but leads into a chocolate chip muffin flavor. This finish is a light, but dark hop flavor profile with soem hnts at fresh ground coffee.

Mouthfeel- Pretty light for such a dark beer. This would a new session beer if it was more readily available at some Illinois bars.

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Photo of poluti
3.61/5  rDev -12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I had the 2004 version.
It pours an extremely dark red until it settles into an inky black with red edges when held to the light. It has a tan head closer to white than brown. The consistency of the head was fantastic. It smelled malty sweet with not too many hop characteristics that I could gather. Overall, the aroma was pleasant but not outstanding. This beer is balanced towards the sweet side in terms of flavor. Obviously the hops are not that evident but I wished there was something else there to counteract the very sweet malty tones it was giving me. This was a very creamy beer and it sat very well on the side of my tongue as I swished it around. It left a fairly clean taste that I was very pleased with. I probably will not pick this beer up again. However, I know a couple people that would love this stuff so I have to skew drinkablity up.

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Photo of jakester
3.92/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I bought this as a single at Union Jack's on the Manatawny. I drank it in a goblet. This is the 2004 version. It comes in a 16.9 oz. bottle.

Pours an absolutely pitch black with active carbonation visible on the sides of the glass. A nice, two fingered head of beige colored foam forms on top, drops to a good coating and a ring, with very nice lacing.

Aroma is mostly chocolate, with a slight coffee background.
There is also some kind of chalky, metallic smell in there. I think I can detect licorice as well. The metallic aroma becomes a little too much as it warms.

First flavor is sweet chocolate, with a hint of coffee. This tastes much better than it smells. I actually started holding my breath as I sipped. Pretty darn clean for a two year old, small alcohol beer. Licorice is in there, I think, and fruit flavors like very dark rum soaked cherries. Aftertaste is dark, sweet, and mellow.

Mouthfeel is fairly smooth and creamy, with a high level of residual sweetness. Pretty full bodied. Carbonation is low to medium. Finish is smooth and luscious.

If it wasn't for the smell, this would be outstanding. I honestly held my breath for every sip, trying not to ruin the taste. The flavor is really good. And actually, after 15 minutes or so, the smell went away. One I'd have again. I'd just open it and let it breathe for a while.

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Photo of bruachan
4.48/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

served in a nice big (16.9 oz) bottle at the winking lizard. "argang 2004" on the label

pitch black in appearance with some garnet highlights at the base. a great big head slowly makes its descent, but not without first depositing some nice frosting on the way down

dark smoky flavor with a hint of licorice. the rich smoothiness of roast lasts and lasts. mild bitterness

this beer is absolutely delicious and at 5.5% it's incredibly drinkable

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Photo of geexploitation
4.3/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This is a relatively rare porter with a vintage statement. This applies to the 2004 vintage. It's a treat. It pours deep brown/coffeelike, with a tan head that thins out quickly but retains a small amount of bubbles. The smell has some chocolate bitterness with some underlying raisiny notes. An appealing nose but nothing too sumptuous. More substantial is the taste of this beer -- chocolate bitterness predominates, especially on the back of the tongue. The mouthfeel is silky and smooth, but the drinkability of this beer suffers a bit from its richness. It's probably too much to put away many pints at a time.

One note on the vintage thing: I just had the 1997 vintage a few weeks ago. It had aged wonderfully -- in spite of the absence of bottle conditioning and a relatively low alcohol content, this beer at 7+ years old was huge, with a much more complex flavor than the 2004 vintage. Over time, some great date flavors came out in the beer, as well as some nicely sweet, cake-like flavors. Anyway, a few people on here have noted seeing some 1997s around as remainders and such. If you see the 1997, BUY IT. As long as it's been cared for between then and now, you're in for some serious goodness.

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Photo of Jredner
3.89/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown with a thin head. Smells of chocolate and mildly of molasses. Lightly roasted with sweet malt and more molasses and chocolate. Very mild, but also very compelling. You just want another sip. It almost has a Baltic Porter taste profile, but none of the BP alcohol.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
Beer rating: 83.5% out of 100 with 583 ratings
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